Kasparov: Putin can start aggressive actions in Azerbaijan

[rmi5]

Then what are you going to do about it?

Do you have Gandalf to match Sauron's supernatural (military) abilities?

Because it seems Russia is moving unopposed right now, in a military sense. No one is willing to send their own soldiers against Russia, not even America.

Well, we have Caucasus mountains which is our Gandalf Do you remember the mountains that Chechens with couple of Kalashnikov's were bothering Russians from? We are located behind those mountains which are very difficult to be passed by any classical army, specially in cold seasons. But, It just increases the amount of time that we can stand against Russians and is not a game changer. So, finally, we hope our oil fields which are developed by BP, ... make westerners to put more sanctions on Russians, and make them hesitant to invade us. Also, we are not initiating any war against Russia, rather we are buying arms from them.

Yeah unfortunately Pakistan is on the Azeri side as well but frankly I don't know why ?

I mean God Bless Azerbaijan and everything but what have we got to do with a conflict between two central asian nations ?

First of all, Azerbaijan and Armenia are located in Caucasus, not Central Asia.
Second, Armenia considers Kashmir as part of India.
Third, we could care less about nice words, or verbal supports.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Well, we have Caucasus mountains which is our Gandalf Do you remember the mountains that Chechens with couple of Kalashnikov's were bothering Russians from? We are located behind those mountains which are very difficult to be passed by any classical army, specially in cold seasons. But, It just increases the amount of time that we can stand against Russians and is not a game changer. So, finally, we hope our oil fields which are developed by BP, ... make westerners to put more sanctions on Russians, and make them hesitant to invade us. Also, we are not initiating any war against Russia, rather we are buying arms from them.

It's best to maintain a peaceful relationship with Russia.

What the pro-West Ukrainians did, i.e. throwing out the leader elected by the Eastern and Southern Ukrainians, that was a bad move.

 

[Beidou2020]

Who gives a flying f*** what Azerbaijan thinks

 

[rmi5]

It's best to maintain a peaceful relationship with Russia.

We are pragmatist hardworking people. It's not wise to initiate any wars on your neighbors, specially on a strong one.

What the pro-West Ukrainians did, i.e. throwing out the leader elected by the Eastern and Southern Ukrainians, that was a bad move.

About Ukraine, I prefer not to meddle in their relations with their slavic brethren, but both sides are needed to be blamed.

 

[usernameless]

No need to be unfriendly to Armstrong, he is one of the nices persons in PDF.

Dude i like you and dont want to offend you and other Azeri brothers that why in not going to drag this any further, just so you know, Turkish suport to Azerbaijan goes beyond every other country, favouring Israel over Turkey regarding help to Azerbaijan is laughable to say the least.

difference is,; Israel will most probably never act out of goodwill for others, can you imagine Israelis flooding to Azerbaijan to protect them against Russia/Iran? i can't. Turkey on the other hand will do as much as it can for Azerbaijan or Pakistan for free or without asking first for a favor/price. It's true Israel can offer Azerbaijan established high tech systems while Turkey is still on it's way in this field. @rmi5 no offense bro, but your unconditional love for Israel is unhealthy. if you know Turkish - Israel relationship, you would know that Israel is not that trustworthy towards us, why do you think they will love you? they will use you just like they did with us, deep down you also know Israel - Azerbaijan relationship is favoring Israel way more. Off topic, but no offense bro, but the fact that you can't follow Turkish news is also a factor that your opinion about Turkey is sometimes plain wrong, for example your accusations of the govt's domestic policies on imprisoning journalists, oppressing minorities and other things you mentioned and your recent accusation that the govt doesn't care about Turkics. Turks from left to right, from Erdogan lovers to Erdogan haters surely will disagree with your accusations. we can discuss these things in another thread.

 

[Armstrong]

First of all, Azerbaijan and Armenia are located in Caucasus, not Central Asia.
Second, Armenia considers Kashmir as part of India.
Third, we could care less about nice words, or verbal supports.

Armenia only considers Kashmir as a part of India because we refused to recognize Armenia till they returned the captured lands to Azerbaijan.

Secondly, 'we' - Who's the we here ? If I recall correctly you're an Iranian; what have you got to do with Azerbaijan ?

Thirdly, What support does Azerbaijan require ? Azerbaijan isn't in a state of war with Armenia and in peace what else can a country do other than cutting any and all ties with Armenia ?

 

[rmi5]

Who gives a flying f*** what Azerbaijan thinks

I think the same about you.

Armenia only considers Kashmir as a part of India because we refused to recognize Armenia till they returned the captured lands to Azerbaijan.

Secondly, 'we' - Who's the we here ? If I recall correctly you're an Iranian; what have you got to do with Azerbaijan ?

Thirdly, What support does Azerbaijan require ? Azerbaijan isn't in a state of war with Armenia and in peace what else can a country do other than cutting any and all ties with Armenia ?

1. I don't care.
2. I am from both South Azerbaijan(Tehran, Iran), and North Azerbaijan(An area close to Ganja, Azerbaijan).
3. We are not in peace with Armenia, we just had a big bloodshed a few months ago with Armenians.

 

[Beidou2020]

I think the same about you.



1. I don't care.
2. I am from both South Azerbaijan(Tehran, Iran), and North Azerbaijan(An area close to Ganja, Azerbaijan).
3. We are not in peace with Armenia, we just had a big bloodshed a few months ago with Armenians.

Azerbaijan. What is that? a country? a city? an American state?

 

[atatwolf]

Biggest support for Azerbaijan from Turkey is keeping the borders with Armenia shut. Restraining their economy, starving their population so they migrate to the US is more powerful than any weapon Turkey can give to Azerbaijan. Also Turkey is not Turkey of two decades ago. We have independent foreign policy as one of the few countries in the world. If Azerbaijan is in life or death situation. We will declare war. Even under Erdogan. When he got elected. The first country he visited was Azerbaijan.

 

[rmi5]

difference is,; Israel will most probably never act out of goodwill for others, can you imagine Israelis flooding to Azerbaijan to protect them against Russia/Iran? i can't. Turkey on the other hand will do as much as it can for Azerbaijan or Pakistan for free or without asking first for a favor/price. It's true Israel can offer Azerbaijan established high tech systems while Turkey is still on it's way in this field. @rmi5 no offense bro, but your unconditional love for Israel is unhealthy. if you know Turkish - Israel relationship, you would know that Israel is not that trustworthy towards us, why do you think they will love you? they will use you just like they did with us, deep down you also know Israel - Azerbaijan relationship is favoring Israel way more. Off topic, but no offense bro, but the fact that you can't follow Turkish news is also a factor that your opinion about Turkey is sometimes plain wrong, for example your accusations of the govt's domestic policies on imprisoning journalists, oppressing minorities and other things you mentioned and your recent accusation that the govt doesn't care about Turkics. Turks from left to right, from Erdogan lovers to Erdogan haters surely will disagree with your accusations. we can discuss these things in another thread.

My Turkish language is not as bad as you think, also, I have some friends who daily let me know about the important news in Turkey's media. About Israel-Turkey relations, I fully blame Erdogan for it for obvious reasons. I am no blind nationalist, and I have no unconditional love for anyone even for my close friends and relatives, let alone foreign countries. About the internal policies of Erdogan, I do believe what I said is correct.

Biggest support for Azerbaijan from Turkey is keeping the borders with Armenia shut. Restraining their economy, starving their population so they migrate to the US is more powerful than any weapon Turkey can give to Azerbaijan. Also Turkey is not Turkey of two decades ago. We have independent foreign policy as one of the few countries in the world. If Azerbaijan is in life or death situation. We will declare war. Even under Erdogan. When he got elected. The first country he visited was Azerbaijan.

I agree with the first part, but for the second part, I have no positive opinion about Erdogan. The best thing Erdogan can do for every turkish, and Azerbaijani citizen, is resigning and leaving the turkish administration.

 

[usernameless]

Biggest support for Azerbaijan from Turkey is keeping the borders with Armenia shut. Restraining their economy, starving their population so they migrate to the US is more powerful than any weapon Turkey can give to Azerbaijan. Also Turkey is not Turkey of two decades ago. We have independent foreign policy as one of the few countries in the world. If Azerbaijan is in life or death situation. We will declare war. Even under Erdogan. When he got elected. The first country he visited was Azerbaijan.

exactly, even if the leader doesn't want to help Azerbaijan, I am very sure Turkish population will not sit idle and watch. The pressure on the govt would be immense in a life or death situation.

 

[rmi5]

exactly, even if the leader doesn't want to help Azerbaijan, I am very sure Turkish population will not sit idle and watch. The pressure on the govt would be immense in a life or death situation.

I clearly said before that I fully distinguish between Turkish citizens and their government.
Turk nation will obviously try to help us, but your government will not do much. That's my whole point.

 

[usernameless]

My Turkish language is not as bad as you think, also, I have some friends who daily let me know about the important news in Turkey's media. About Israel-Turkey relations, I fully blame Erdogan for it for obvious reasons. I am no blind nationalist, and I have no unconditional love for anyone even for my close friends and relatives, let alone foreign countries. About the internal policies of Erdogan, I do believe what I said is correct.


I agree with the first part, but for the second part, I have no positive opinion about Erdogan. The best Erdogan can do for every turkish, and Azerbaijani citizen, is resigning and leaving the turkish administration.

it's better to follow news with your own eyes instead of using people who watch it through their own biased glasses, because in the end we are all (somewhat) biased. even @xenon54 @Sinan , who are better known to be neutral, will tell you the same thing about those accusations and Turkish - Israel relationship (not only under Erdogan), but let's not go in off topic chatter, you are free to believe what you want to believe after all

 

[atatwolf]

My Turkish language is not as bad as you think, also, I have some friends who daily let me know about the important news in Turkey's media. About Israel-Turkey relations, I fully blame Erdogan for it for obvious reasons. I am no blind nationalist, and I have no unconditional love for anyone even for my close friends and relatives, let alone foreign countries. About the internal policies of Erdogan, I do believe what I said is correct.


I agree with the first part, but for the second part, I have no positive opinion about Erdogan. The best thing Erdogan can do for every turkish, and Azerbaijani citizen, is resigning and leaving the turkish administration.

Your argument was Turkey is not giving f16 or other western equipment. If it was legally possible we would do it. More importantly what Turkey has including f16 and other western tech should be considered as Azerbaijan's weapons too. What does it matter if we have it or you have it. As Aliyev said our most important foreign policy is to strengthen Turkey since how stronger it gets that would be added power to Azerbaijan. I don't like Erdogan but he is not anti Turkic as you think. Aliyev and Erdogan have very close relationship. If Azerbaijan gets hurt. Turkey will get hurt and visa versa.

 

[F-15I]

Where is contradiction? I said there will be no any war. Just political and economical control.

you russians canot control your own economy, how you plan to control Azeri econmy?! keep draeming and dring your vodka ruskiy... USA & Europe plannig good surprises for you, prepare your economy to be the Second Iran

 

[xenon54 out]

difference is,; Israel will most probably never act out of goodwill for others, can you imagine Israelis flooding to Azerbaijan to protect them against Russia/Iran? i can't. Turkey on the other hand will do as much as it can for Azerbaijan or Pakistan for free or without asking first for a favor/price. It's true Israel can offer Azerbaijan established high tech systems while Turkey is still on it's way in this field. @rmi5 no offense bro, but your unconditional love for Israel is unhealthy. if you know Turkish - Israel relationship, you would know that Israel is not that trustworthy towards us, why do you think they will love you? they will use you just like they did with us, deep down you also know Israel - Azerbaijan relationship is favoring Israel way more. Off topic, but no offense bro, but the fact that you can't follow Turkish news is also a factor that your opinion about Turkey is sometimes plain wrong, for example your accusations of the govt's domestic policies on imprisoning journalists, oppressing minorities and other things you mentioned and your recent accusation that the govt doesn't care about Turkics. Turks from left to right, from Erdogan lovers to Erdogan haters surely will disagree with your accusations. we can discuss these things in another thread.

Bro this whole discussion is ridiculous, i mean show me another exsample of a country that represents the citizens of another country in his consulates worldwide as if they were their own citizens, thats how deep the bond between Turkey and Azerbaijan is, Turkey is supporting Azerbaijan wherever it can, claiming something else is unfair, not to mention comparing it to Israel thats only behind business.