‘Kashmiris are thieves’ - Faroor Abdullah

[Aka123]

IOK is a reality sir we will not lie to please you.

But the Americans and Europeans and rest of the World knows Kashmir as India. So… anyways leave it brother!!

PDF rules only apply to members with Indian Flags. Hence I didn't even bother to question anything.

PDF rule is not the World!
So if it's unbiased, I respect, if it's biased, then who cares.

 

[Armstrong]

@EyanKhan - I'm still waiting for your test ?

Its been years since I heard Hindko so I wanna see whether I can still pick some of it up as I used to ?

 

[Parul]

I've seen your proficiency in Punjabi to know where you stand ?

Besides what would a student of Commerce know about Anthropology to tell me whether my explanation was sh*tty or not ?

Tell you what sit with your Professor of Anthropology & ask him about how Ethnicites & formed & then well talk about what constitutes an 'Ethnicity' !

Your Chacha is Proficient in Punjabi, he can have a debate with me any given day. Rest, even a layman can understand the loathe of crap which you posted couple of posts back.

 

[EyanKhan]

I've seen your proficiency in Punjabi to know where you stand ?

Besides what would a student of Commerce know about Anthropology to tell me whether my explanation was sh*tty or not ?

Tell you what sit with your Professor of Anthropology & ask him about how Ethnicites & formed & then well talk about what constitutes an 'Ethnicity' !

DNA is just numbers and codes nothing else
Ethnicity is defined by the customs , language , lifestyle ,philosophy, culture etc

@EyanKhan - I'm still waiting for your test ?

Its been years since I heard Hindko so I wanna see whether I can still pick some of it up as I used to ?

Lol i am ashamed of my hindko it may sound alot like punjabi that's why i am refraining

 

[SQ8]

I've just seen my post has been deleted. It was just a friendly jibe at @Armstrong.

Only to get attention. Your friendly jibe could be a new members source of flaming and trolling

By that logic IOK usage should also be discouraged bcz that is also flaming term.

Allowed in Kashmir threads as forum policy is to highlight struggle of Kashmiris.

 

[KingMamba]

But the Americans and Europeans and rest of the World knows Kashmir as India. So… anyways leave it brother!!

Says who most people around here at least know it is disputed, the rest don't care enough to even know what kashmir is let alone who it belongs too lol.

 

[Parul]

Only to get attention. Your friendly jibe could be a new members source of flaming and trolling

I got your point. I have been told by PDF administrators to accept Pakistan Version of Kashmir as Gosepl Truth. Hence, I even refrain from posting in threads related to Kashmir.I rest my case here.

 

[KingMamba]

so, is Azad Kashmir....

Nope.

 

[Parul]

But the Americans and Europeans and rest of the World knows Kashmir as India. So… anyways leave it brother!!



PDF rule is not the World!
So if it's unbiased, I respect, if it's biased, then who cares.

It's biased, and I don't care.

 

[SQ8]

I got your point. I have been told by PDF administrators to accept Pakistan Version of Kashmir as Gosepl Truth. Hence, I even refrain from posting in threads related to Kashmir.I rest my case here.

Accepting the version is not the problem.. ensuring that two teens dont jump in and use pithy language is. We try to prevent that as much as possible as we are shorthanded on forum moderators.

 

[Aka123]

Says who most people around here at least know it is disputed, the rest don't care enough to even know what kashmir is let alone who it belongs too lol.

That's true!! Most doesn't even know, what Kashmir is about. Only some South Asian countries know.
Frankly not even Common people from Middle East knows. I have friends from Saudi, Iran, Turkey. They are unaware.
So since it's only between India and Pakistan. It's difficult to set the reference point who has occupied what. Who's correct, who's incorrect. What's the reference point of correctness ?
You can say your point of view is correct and we will say ours is correct. So the discussion will continue for ever.

It's biased, and I don't care.

lol!!

 

[SQ8]

All that being said.. @Armstrong is a Bhatt Thief.

 

[Dem!god]

Nope.

we keyboard worriers can't settle this issue here....lets this be settled at the border....
whether it is Azad Kashmir or IOK.....
I rest my case here..... ..

 

[Armstrong]

DNA is just numbers and codes nothing else
Ethnicity is defined by the customs , language , lifestyle ,philosophy, culture etc

But its a completely human construct is it not ?

Take the Pukhtoons for example - They have a History that goes back maybe 5000 years - Okay so what were they before that ?

Because the Homo Sapien has been here for a lot longer than that which means somewhere along the way the Pukhtoons like every other 'ethnic group' out there was born out of some other preceding ethnic group & if this is true & Anthropology teaches us that it is than what is to say who is or who isn't an 'original' Pukhtoon & not ? As a matter of fact who is to say who is a Pukhtoon at all ?

Similarly the Customs, Traditions, Language, Life-Style & Philosophy etc. are all human constructs which essentially means 'we made them up' & if we did make them up (which we did) what is to stop us from making them up once more ? So how can anyone say that XYZ is Pukhtoon Culture or ABC isn't Pukhtoon Culture or more so in a real-life example how can a Pashto speaking Pukhtoon say to a Hindko or Farsi or Saraiki speaking Pukhtoon that hes more 'Pukhtoon' than the others or they that that they are more 'Pukhtoon' than a Pashto speaking Pukhtoon when Pashto itself is a language which like every other language in the world was created out of some preceding languages !

Likewise even Cultures, Customs, Traditions, Languages etc. aren't static - They are ever-evolving & if they are (which they are) than what would follow is that if 'originality' is to be determined than where in those 5000 years do we make a cut-off point that before that the Pukhtoon Culture & Language etc. was more 'Pure' or more 'Original' than after it ? Because even when it comes to today's Pukhtoons there is a marked difference between a Pukhtoon of a Settled Area & a Pukhtoon of a Tribal Area & like wise between a Pukhtoon of Punjab & a Pukhtoon from the Farsi-speaking areas of Afghanistan - Who is original & who isn't when :

(a) we - the People - created the culture & the language to begin with !

(b) we - the People - continue to add & subtract to it making it an ever evolving thing !

Now do you see the intellectual absurdity of this 'ethno-linguistic' nationalism that some nasal-parast & qaum-parasts prescribe too ?

And this applies for ALL ethnicities & ALL cultures - Pukhtoons, Punjabis, Chinese, Germans, Korean etc.

P.S I didn't even touch on the Biological basis for any of this either because if the human race did indeed start from Africa or Sri Lanka as is often postulated - The Nasal Parasti & the Qaum Parasti sounds even more absurd !

 

[Parul]

Accepting the version is not the problem.. ensuring that two teens dont jump in and use pithy language is. We try to prevent that as much as possible as we are shorthanded on forum moderators.

I don't use such language. I and @Armstrong know each other quite well. That is why, I used that word. Had any other member quoted me in this thread, I wouldn't have visited it. I'll try and make sure, I won't use it in such threads.