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'Kashmiris Do Not Feel Indian, Today They'd Rather Have the Chinese Rule Them': Farooq Abdullah

Puppet master is now directly running the show and bringing his own favourites in the game.


Puppet master is now doing the dancing in circus taken up the role of clown, while there is no one to see the show.
 
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Do not comment on subjects you only have a passing knowledge of. Former Princely states of British India were given the choice to be part of either India or Pak. Jammu & Kashmir is a former princely state.
Hence the error in Hari Singh's choice is even more accentuated, as he went against all precedents and against the desires of the natives. Moreover, the massacres in Jammu further compounded the false narrative being propagated at the time. By all available measures and prerogatives, J&K the princely state should not have gone to Hindustan.
 
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Does any of this ring a bell? “Kashmir banega Pakistan”, “Jugular vein”, Pakistan’s ridiculous new map.

If you believe in self determination, you should be as vocal against China for Uygurs and Taiwanese. Clearly Uygurs, Taiwanese and Tibetan’s don’t want to be part of China.

You raise your voice for Uygurs and you will see many countries willing to listen to you on Kashmir. At the moment your morality is suspect.
Not in the slightest. In China, hindutva has no relevance and does not render Muslims as second class citizens. Hence, uighurs are quite safe and happy going about their business. Under the Chinese, your power as a Hindu extremist is stripped, and you are no better than the Muslim next to you. This is why south Asians respect China, yet frown upon India. Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Kashmiris, Nepalese, Lankans have all lost any trust they ever had in the Indian way.
 
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Not in the slightest. In China, hindutva has no relevance and does not render Muslims as second class citizens. Hence, uighurs are quite safe and happy going about their business. Under the Chinese, your power as a Hindu extremist is stripped, and you are no better than the Muslim next to you. This is why south Asians respect China, yet frown upon India. Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Kashmiris, Nepalese, Lankans have all lost any trust they ever had in the Indian way.
As for "Kashmir banega Pakistan", if that's what Kashmiris want, we shall welcome them. However, we will not forget the crimes you committed against Kashmir and the massacres in Jammu. This won't finish until there is justice for 1947's crimes committed by H Singh and his Indian allies.
 
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You better understand one thing mate. Dont try to play your "superpower" status by nudging pakistan against India. India-Pak were one country at one time and have our own issues to tackle. You (as in your country), on the other hand, are trying to act smart with India. Let me assure you, Indians are way smarter than you can every imagine. Many of us are so smart that we dig holes for own country for individual benefits. But anywhichway you look at it, rest assured Indians are very smart. Not violent, not slitting throats. But high in IQ. For many many years, most of this smartness was used to dig our own hole. Just one change of regime, and the smartness which loves this country is starting to display. Just starting to. Dont do the mistake of assuming a smarter person to be lesser smarter for you. One Indian thing that works against India with FULL FORCE are the evil-minded India-hating dirty politicians (which are 99% of all). If the other 1% take control for 15 to 20 years, forget China, India can has the potential to reach where you want t be in your dreams. Your lack of democracy has benefitted you on many fronts (not all). The same democracy has damaged India on many fronts (not all). On fair playing fields, you are no match for India & Indians.

If you can understand what I am trying to say even one bit, you would refrain from acting smart through your lose statements.

The above single reference by you makes you "honourable" in the post below. Honestly, I dont know which is more nauseating: your pathetic attempt to act smart or this "honour" extended to you
If you're so easily triggered, you probably shouldn't hang around such fora.
 
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If you're so easily triggered, you probably shouldn't hang around such fora.

LOL @ your presumption/assumption/conclusion that I got triggered.

I wanted to give a msg which must have reached the intended recipient who tries hard to avoid replying to me.

Honourable? Really? LOL. HA HA HA.
In India, there was an attempt to remove this salutation for certain posts/designations because it was a British legacy. You can continue.
 
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'Kashmiris Do Not Feel Indian, Today They'd Rather Have the Chinese Rule Them': Farooq Abdullah
The former chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir and Lok Sabha MP tells Karan Thapar that he committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris by which he meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.

23-September-KT-Farooq-Abdullah.00_51_26_06.Still002-1200x600.jpg


4 HOURS AGO

New Delhi: In a powerful and passionate interview with frequent flashes of anger and displays of emotion, former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah has said that at this moment the Kashmiri people do not feel and do not want to be Indian. He even went so far as to say that they would rather be ruled by the Chinese, a point he reiterated when he was asked if he really meant this.

Abdullah, who heads the National Conference party and had been the most prominent ‘pro-India’ face in Jammu and Kashmir for the past four decades, also described the Kashmiris as slaves who were being treated like second class citizens.


In a 44-minute interview to The Wire, Abdullah said it was complete rubbish for the Bharatiya Janata Party to claim that the people of Kashmir have accepted the August 2019 changes just because there have been no protests.


He said if the soldiers on every street and Section 144 were to be lifted, people will come out in their tens of lakhs. Abdullah told The Wire that the new domicile law was intended to flood the Valley with Hindus and create a Hindu majority. He said this has further embittered the Kashmiri people.


Asked as to how Kashmiris view the Central government and, in particular, Prime Minister Modi and Union home minister Amit Shah, Abdullah said they were deeply disillusioned. He said they had no trust in the Central government. The trust that once bound Kashmir to the rest of the country has completely snapped, he added.

Abdullah revealed details of his meeting with the Prime Minister roughly 72 hours before August 5, 2019 when the constitutional changes in Kashmir were announced.

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi meeting NC leaders Farooq Abdullah and Sheikh Abdullah on August 1. Photo: PTI


He had met the Prime Minister seeking assurances about the continuation of Articles 370 and 35A. He asked the prime minister why there were so many troops in the Valley and whether this was because of any perceived military threat.

Abdullah suggested the prime minister deliberately went out of his way to give him the impression the massive increase in troops was for security purposes. He said Modi did not say a word about Articles 370 and 35A. Consequently, Abdullah emerged from that meeting believing the two Articles were not in danger.

When asked, he agreed that the prime minister had misled and deceived him.

Abdullah told The Wire that on August 5, 2019, when the constitutional changes were suddenly announced, the National Conference and all other mainstream political parties stood badly discredited in Kashmiri eyes. Speaking of himself, he said he seemed to have fallen between two stools. The Centre viewed him as a traitor and arrested him. Kashmiris, on the other hand, saw him as a servant of India and said things like this ‘serves Abdullah right’. They chided him and taunted him for having said “Bharat Mata ki jai.” This left him deeply shaken and upset.

However, after 7-8 months in detention his standing and that of his party and other mainstream parties has been considerably restored in Kashmiri eyes. People now realise they are not “servants of India”, he said.

Abdullah said that the National Conference and, in fact, all the other parties that had come together to issue the Gupkar Declaration of August 2019, which was reiterated on August 22 this year, were committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris. He said this meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.


Abdullah said that he had faith in the Supreme Court and hoped that it would stop postponing the petition his party has brought and hear it expeditiously. In the interview he, in fact, appealed to Supreme Court judges to hear the constitutional case quickly.

Asked why he had not raised this matter during the present session of parliament, which ends on Wednesday, September 23, he said he was not given time. He said he had gone to meet Lok Sabha speaker Om Birla, along with MPs from Congress, Trinamool, DMK and the Communist Parties, and the speaker had assured them time for a discussion would be allocated. But that never happened. Asked if he believed the government had intervened and told the speaker not to give time, Abdullah said he did not know but agreed that the speaker had not kept his word.

Abdullah told The Wire that in the greater interest of Kashmir, the Mufti and Abdullah families have buried their past differences and come together. He said, today, Mehbooba Mufti was politically close to both his son Omar and himself. He said that he was in touch with her frequently, every week.

In one of the more angry moments of the interview, Abdullah asked why Mehbooba Mufti has not been released. “Is she a criminal?” he thundered.


Asked if her incarceration has begun to affect her, Abdullah asked a question in return: “How can it not? She is a human being after all.”

Abdullah added that whether the National Conference will contest the next state elections is a decision that will be taken, first, democratically within the National Conference itself and he, as president, will not impose his personal thinking. The decision will also be taken in concert with all the other Gupkar parties, he said.

Abdullah said his son Omar Abdullah’s announcement in a recent Indian Express article that he would not contest elections whilst Kashmir remains a Union Territory is Omar’s personal decision and not the position of the National Conference. However, he added that if Omar does not wish to contest, that is his right. Of himself, he said, he would abide by whatever decision the party took collectively.


He is free to excercise his option and be the one in concentration camp. He should move to China to prove what he advocates.
 
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He is free to excercise his option and be the one in concentration camp. He should move to China to prove what he advocates.
Concentration camps? they are new apartment complex. You Indians love live in the slums, those glistening new neighborhoods are not of your taste i guess.
 
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Concentration camps? they are new apartment complex. You Indians love live in the slums, those glistening new neighborhoods are not of your taste i guess.


And now say that China sends PLA goons to sleep with wives of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps so that they don't feel lonely in their home. 50 cent army can glorify anything to defend their master Xi.
 
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'Kashmiris Do Not Feel Indian, Today They'd Rather Have the Chinese Rule Them': Farooq Abdullah
The former chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir and Lok Sabha MP tells Karan Thapar that he committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris by which he meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.

23-September-KT-Farooq-Abdullah.00_51_26_06.Still002-1200x600.jpg


4 HOURS AGO

New Delhi: In a powerful and passionate interview with frequent flashes of anger and displays of emotion, former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah has said that at this moment the Kashmiri people do not feel and do not want to be Indian. He even went so far as to say that they would rather be ruled by the Chinese, a point he reiterated when he was asked if he really meant this.

Abdullah, who heads the National Conference party and had been the most prominent ‘pro-India’ face in Jammu and Kashmir for the past four decades, also described the Kashmiris as slaves who were being treated like second class citizens.


In a 44-minute interview to The Wire, Abdullah said it was complete rubbish for the Bharatiya Janata Party to claim that the people of Kashmir have accepted the August 2019 changes just because there have been no protests.


He said if the soldiers on every street and Section 144 were to be lifted, people will come out in their tens of lakhs. Abdullah told The Wire that the new domicile law was intended to flood the Valley with Hindus and create a Hindu majority. He said this has further embittered the Kashmiri people.


Asked as to how Kashmiris view the Central government and, in particular, Prime Minister Modi and Union home minister Amit Shah, Abdullah said they were deeply disillusioned. He said they had no trust in the Central government. The trust that once bound Kashmir to the rest of the country has completely snapped, he added.

Abdullah revealed details of his meeting with the Prime Minister roughly 72 hours before August 5, 2019 when the constitutional changes in Kashmir were announced.

abdullah-modi.jpeg

Prime Minister Narendra Modi meeting NC leaders Farooq Abdullah and Sheikh Abdullah on August 1. Photo: PTI


He had met the Prime Minister seeking assurances about the continuation of Articles 370 and 35A. He asked the prime minister why there were so many troops in the Valley and whether this was because of any perceived military threat.

Abdullah suggested the prime minister deliberately went out of his way to give him the impression the massive increase in troops was for security purposes. He said Modi did not say a word about Articles 370 and 35A. Consequently, Abdullah emerged from that meeting believing the two Articles were not in danger.

When asked, he agreed that the prime minister had misled and deceived him.

Abdullah told The Wire that on August 5, 2019, when the constitutional changes were suddenly announced, the National Conference and all other mainstream political parties stood badly discredited in Kashmiri eyes. Speaking of himself, he said he seemed to have fallen between two stools. The Centre viewed him as a traitor and arrested him. Kashmiris, on the other hand, saw him as a servant of India and said things like this ‘serves Abdullah right’. They chided him and taunted him for having said “Bharat Mata ki jai.” This left him deeply shaken and upset.

However, after 7-8 months in detention his standing and that of his party and other mainstream parties has been considerably restored in Kashmiri eyes. People now realise they are not “servants of India”, he said.

Abdullah said that the National Conference and, in fact, all the other parties that had come together to issue the Gupkar Declaration of August 2019, which was reiterated on August 22 this year, were committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris. He said this meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.


Abdullah said that he had faith in the Supreme Court and hoped that it would stop postponing the petition his party has brought and hear it expeditiously. In the interview he, in fact, appealed to Supreme Court judges to hear the constitutional case quickly.

Asked why he had not raised this matter during the present session of parliament, which ends on Wednesday, September 23, he said he was not given time. He said he had gone to meet Lok Sabha speaker Om Birla, along with MPs from Congress, Trinamool, DMK and the Communist Parties, and the speaker had assured them time for a discussion would be allocated. But that never happened. Asked if he believed the government had intervened and told the speaker not to give time, Abdullah said he did not know but agreed that the speaker had not kept his word.

Abdullah told The Wire that in the greater interest of Kashmir, the Mufti and Abdullah families have buried their past differences and come together. He said, today, Mehbooba Mufti was politically close to both his son Omar and himself. He said that he was in touch with her frequently, every week.

In one of the more angry moments of the interview, Abdullah asked why Mehbooba Mufti has not been released. “Is she a criminal?” he thundered.


Asked if her incarceration has begun to affect her, Abdullah asked a question in return: “How can it not? She is a human being after all.”

Abdullah added that whether the National Conference will contest the next state elections is a decision that will be taken, first, democratically within the National Conference itself and he, as president, will not impose his personal thinking. The decision will also be taken in concert with all the other Gupkar parties, he said.

Abdullah said his son Omar Abdullah’s announcement in a recent Indian Express article that he would not contest elections whilst Kashmir remains a Union Territory is Omar’s personal decision and not the position of the National Conference. However, he added that if Omar does not wish to contest, that is his right. Of himself, he said, he would abide by whatever decision the party took collectively.

:omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:


modi will send him in chinese communist concentration camps where uighars are getting reeducation .
 
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If Kashmir is given to China, Kashmiris will have same fate as Uighurs. Their land taken from them, cultured+religion removed and populating their areas with Hans so they can become majority.

How many mosques has Indians destroyed in Kashmir compared to Xinjiang? There is no comparison.

pakistanhis love chinese .
 
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If Kashmir is given to China, Kashmiris will have same fate as Uighurs. Their land taken from them, cultured+religion removed and populating their areas with Hans so they can become majority.

How many mosques has Indians destroyed in Kashmir compared to Xinjiang? There is no comparison.

Well who gives a shit about this old man?
He can as much as possible
 
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'Kashmiris Do Not Feel Indian, Today They'd Rather Have the Chinese Rule Them': Farooq Abdullah
The former chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir and Lok Sabha MP tells Karan Thapar that he committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris by which he meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.

23-September-KT-Farooq-Abdullah.00_51_26_06.Still002-1200x600.jpg


4 HOURS AGO

New Delhi: In a powerful and passionate interview with frequent flashes of anger and displays of emotion, former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah has said that at this moment the Kashmiri people do not feel and do not want to be Indian. He even went so far as to say that they would rather be ruled by the Chinese, a point he reiterated when he was asked if he really meant this.

Abdullah, who heads the National Conference party and had been the most prominent ‘pro-India’ face in Jammu and Kashmir for the past four decades, also described the Kashmiris as slaves who were being treated like second class citizens.


In a 44-minute interview to The Wire, Abdullah said it was complete rubbish for the Bharatiya Janata Party to claim that the people of Kashmir have accepted the August 2019 changes just because there have been no protests.


He said if the soldiers on every street and Section 144 were to be lifted, people will come out in their tens of lakhs. Abdullah told The Wire that the new domicile law was intended to flood the Valley with Hindus and create a Hindu majority. He said this has further embittered the Kashmiri people.


Asked as to how Kashmiris view the Central government and, in particular, Prime Minister Modi and Union home minister Amit Shah, Abdullah said they were deeply disillusioned. He said they had no trust in the Central government. The trust that once bound Kashmir to the rest of the country has completely snapped, he added.

Abdullah revealed details of his meeting with the Prime Minister roughly 72 hours before August 5, 2019 when the constitutional changes in Kashmir were announced.

abdullah-modi.jpeg

Prime Minister Narendra Modi meeting NC leaders Farooq Abdullah and Sheikh Abdullah on August 1. Photo: PTI


He had met the Prime Minister seeking assurances about the continuation of Articles 370 and 35A. He asked the prime minister why there were so many troops in the Valley and whether this was because of any perceived military threat.

Abdullah suggested the prime minister deliberately went out of his way to give him the impression the massive increase in troops was for security purposes. He said Modi did not say a word about Articles 370 and 35A. Consequently, Abdullah emerged from that meeting believing the two Articles were not in danger.

When asked, he agreed that the prime minister had misled and deceived him.

Abdullah told The Wire that on August 5, 2019, when the constitutional changes were suddenly announced, the National Conference and all other mainstream political parties stood badly discredited in Kashmiri eyes. Speaking of himself, he said he seemed to have fallen between two stools. The Centre viewed him as a traitor and arrested him. Kashmiris, on the other hand, saw him as a servant of India and said things like this ‘serves Abdullah right’. They chided him and taunted him for having said “Bharat Mata ki jai.” This left him deeply shaken and upset.

However, after 7-8 months in detention his standing and that of his party and other mainstream parties has been considerably restored in Kashmiri eyes. People now realise they are not “servants of India”, he said.

Abdullah said that the National Conference and, in fact, all the other parties that had come together to issue the Gupkar Declaration of August 2019, which was reiterated on August 22 this year, were committed to restoring the dignity of Kashmiris. He said this meant reinstating Articles 370 and 35A and restoring statehood. He said he would fight for this – but always peacefully – till his last breath.


Abdullah said that he had faith in the Supreme Court and hoped that it would stop postponing the petition his party has brought and hear it expeditiously. In the interview he, in fact, appealed to Supreme Court judges to hear the constitutional case quickly.

Asked why he had not raised this matter during the present session of parliament, which ends on Wednesday, September 23, he said he was not given time. He said he had gone to meet Lok Sabha speaker Om Birla, along with MPs from Congress, Trinamool, DMK and the Communist Parties, and the speaker had assured them time for a discussion would be allocated. But that never happened. Asked if he believed the government had intervened and told the speaker not to give time, Abdullah said he did not know but agreed that the speaker had not kept his word.

Abdullah told The Wire that in the greater interest of Kashmir, the Mufti and Abdullah families have buried their past differences and come together. He said, today, Mehbooba Mufti was politically close to both his son Omar and himself. He said that he was in touch with her frequently, every week.

In one of the more angry moments of the interview, Abdullah asked why Mehbooba Mufti has not been released. “Is she a criminal?” he thundered.


Asked if her incarceration has begun to affect her, Abdullah asked a question in return: “How can it not? She is a human being after all.”

Abdullah added that whether the National Conference will contest the next state elections is a decision that will be taken, first, democratically within the National Conference itself and he, as president, will not impose his personal thinking. The decision will also be taken in concert with all the other Gupkar parties, he said.

Abdullah said his son Omar Abdullah’s announcement in a recent Indian Express article that he would not contest elections whilst Kashmir remains a Union Territory is Omar’s personal decision and not the position of the National Conference. However, he added that if Omar does not wish to contest, that is his right. Of himself, he said, he would abide by whatever decision the party took collectively.

A shameless Ghaddar ibne Ghaddar is now trying to blackmail his masters. He and his father are responsible for what the people of Indian occupied J&K have been and are currently going through.
 
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