Kashmiri students studying in Bangladesh tells harrowing stories.

[Bengal71]

There is, Pakistan can easily arm and train Kashmiris while chocking the Indian supply line to Kashmir. 700,000 Indian troops will find themselves in hell within few weeks. Issue here is that Indian will launch a full scale attack. Now Pakistan cannot do a prolong tug of war with India. It has to either do a preemptive first strikes for max damage early on and therefore initiate the war or switch to tactical nuke option as defensive tactic later in war. .

You guys have been arming them for a long time and it didn't bear fruit. I don't think it will have much effect in the future either. Besides if you do it, India will also arm terrorists inside Pakistan which will wreck havoc in Pakistan. After such a prolonged Afghan conflict more terrorism is the last thing you need, you need to focus on your economy.

You need a realistic solution for this issue, and the only realistic one I can think of is call the LOC International border and accept IOK Kashmiris as citizens. This should have been tried in the past with India when they at least had dialogue with Pakistan, now they won't even talk because they know they are in a strong position. The international community will do nothing, the big powers will do nothing and the Arabs will give you lip service only and on your back they are good friends with India. So go for a realistic solution. Hijrah is a prescribed solution for Muslims in oppression.

Kashmiri must fight back. There are 8 million Kashmiri, bulk of them will never be able to flee. Which country would be willing to take millions of refugees and assimilate them? So, sooner or later Kashmiri have to fight back. If they can send to Delhi a steady stream of body bag of indian occupation soldiers, and international media highlights the atrocity in Kashmir by Indian forces, then sooner or later Indian leadership will come to it's senses, and will be forced to give Kashmir at least autonomy. Fleeing is not an option. Fleeing of educated youth will only demoralize the rest of the population and worsen the ground situation.

They can try to fight back but I doubt they will have any success. India will use it as a justification for genocide and because of the fvcked up situation of the Muslims all over the world, nobody will bat an eyelid. The Arabs who have a lot of leverage on the Indians will do nothing and are actually friends with India and may even have given their tacit approval.

They only solution is Pakistan annex AJK and let the IOK Kashmiris cross the border and accept as citizens. Pakistan has lot of Afghans as refugees in their country, they can be moved back to Afghanistan since situation is normal there and Kashmiris can be taken.

 

[Genghis khan1]

You guys have been arming them for a long time and it didn't bear fruit. I don't think it will have much effect in the future either. Besides if you do it, India will also arm terrorists inside Pakistan which will wreck havoc in Pakistan. After such a prolonged Afghan conflict more terrorism is the last thing you need, you need to focus on your economy.

You need a realistic solution for this issue, and the only realistic one I can think of is call the LOC International border and accept IOK Kashmiris as citizens. This should have been tried in the past with India when they at least had dialogue with Pakistan, now they won't even talk because they know they are in a strong position. The international community will do nothing, the big powers will do nothing and the Arabs will give you lip service only and on your back they are good friends with India. So go for a realistic solution. Hijrah is a prescribed solution for Muslims in oppression.

Pakistan did it in early 90’s with only small arms (AK’s) and Indian end up engaging 700,000 of its troops, Pakistan never admitting arming them officially. Now Pakistan do properly, like US and Saudi did in Syria. Game would be soon over.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You guys have been arming them for a long time and it didn't bear fruit. I don't think it will have much effect in the future either. B

Well things are different now. In the past, vast majority of Kashmiris were content with special status and partial autonomy prescribed by article 370, and they did not bother to accept the trouble of insurgency to hamper their daily normal life. Past rebellion had very minimal public support. So, Pakistan's covert support did not bear much fruits. But now, situation is completely different, Kashmiris very existence are now in danger, Hindutva fascist have pushed them on the extreme edge, they have no option other then to fight back or perish. So , now there is a real possibility of a genuine Kashmiri lead struggle unlike the past. Other country's moral support here are crucial, specially Pakistan.

 

[Bengal71]

Pakistan did it in early 90’s with only small arms (AK’s) and Indian end up engaging 700,000 of its troops, Pakistan never admitting arming them officially. Now Pakistan do properly, like US and Saudi did in Syria. Game would be soon over.

I don't question the morality of arming the Kashmiris and them fighting back as oppressors should be fought back. I am concerned about the viability of such an endeavor keeping in view the terrorist situation in Pakistan, the Afghan situation, Pakistan's economic situation and the possibility of success of such a struggle.

@Homo Sapiens

 

[Genghis khan1]

Remember Pakistan is

I don't question the morality of arming the Kashmiris and them fighting back as oppressors should be fought back. I am concerned about the viability of such an endeavor keeping in view the terrorist situation in Pakistan, the Afghan situation, Pakistan's economic situation and the possibility of success of such a struggle.

@Homo Sapiens

Afghan situation is winding down. Internal terror situation was all due to Afghanistan which is totally under control. Before Afghan border was unguarded. Tribal areas were no go areas. Past few years, everything has changed. Success is possible only if Pakistan follow through and don’t back off like it did in Kargil under US pressure. Engage as many Indian army formation and artillly inside Kashmir Valley. During Kargil Indians had to pull heavy guns away From Punjab border leaving it vulnerable. While Pakistan was only using few NLI troops (para military back then). All PA formations were at their available Incase of war.

So whole idea is, as long as Pakistan do it right and don’t wait if tit for tat responses. Indian will get a huge surprise.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

**** the economy we should atleast open border fences for freedom fighters to cross into IOK. Im willing to cross cease fire border and die trying to protect kashmiri brothers and sisters.

Boils my blood

 

[TopCat]

Kashmiri must fight back. There are 8 million Kashmiri, bulk of them will never be able to flee. Which country would be willing to take millions of refugees and assimilate them? So, sooner or later Kashmiri have to fight back. If they can send to Delhi a steady stream of body bag of indian occupation soldiers, and international media highlights the atrocity in Kashmir by Indian forces, then sooner or later Indian leadership will come to it's senses, and will be forced to give Kashmir at least autonomy. Fleeing is not an option. Fleeing of educated youth will only demoralize the rest of the population and worsen the ground situation.

Fight back against what? I dont encourage a no win war when 80% of Kashmir land is Hindu majority. A squeezed up valley with 6 million muslim should find a better way to communicate with India and find peace. They should not let Pakistan mend in their own affairs.

Remember Pakistan is

Afghan situation is winding down. Internal terror situation was all due to Afghanistan which is totally under control. Before Afghan border was unguarded. Tribal areas were no go areas. Past few years, everything has changed. Success is possible only if Pakistan follow through and don’t back off like it did in Kargil under US pressure. Engage as many Indian army formation and artillly inside Kashmir Valley. During Kargil Indians had to pull heavy guns away From Punjab border leaving it vulnerable. While Pakistan was only using few NLI troops (para military back then). All PA formations were at their available Incase of war.

So whole idea is, as long as Pakistan do it right and don’t wait if tit for tat responses. Indian will get a huge surprise.

In a short term war Pakistan may throw some good punches but wont be able to sustain a long term war. It will be a disaster for Pakistan and even could loose the LOC.

What strategy are you mumbling about wrt Assam? Your Bongal miyas have no political or economic clout in my state, and are only about one-fourth of the total population of the state. And more importantly, they have long adopted Assamese as their mother tongue and foregone their Bengali culture in an attempt to pass off as Indian citizens. There is only a single political party for your Bangladeshi origin muslims which has been decimated by the muslims themselves as their leaders did nothing for them in the past decade.

People here will laugh at your face if you call Assam a Muslim or a Bengali state, never will be in the next 1000 years. We are however, proud of our multiethnic and multi-religious state and county, something which you Bongals must learn to emulate.

After the NRC situation will drastically change with the Muslim.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Fight back against what? I dont encourage a no win war when 80% of Kashmir land is Hindu majority. A squeezed up valley with 6 million muslim should find a better way to communicate with India and find peace. They should not let Pakistan mend in their own affairs.

Those are mostly the barren land in Ladakh and Jammu. Main real estate is the Kashmir valley. In the Kashmir valley, there are 8 million Kashmiri with over 96 percent are Muslims.

Communication with India? Under this fascist Hindutva govt.? Their ultimate goal is to cleanse the valley of Muslims and repopulate that place with mainland Hindus. Kashmiris will gain nothing by showing peaceful intention, only noose will tighten. It may worked with Gandhi-Nehru, but not now. Only way to squeeze anything from this Hindutva goons is to make them realize that they can not do as per their wish and there is a price for their bad action. Only then these goons will come to their senses. Kashmiris have to sacrifice a lot in this struggle, but it will ultimately give them the better deal.

 

[Genghis khan1]

In a short term war Pakistan may throw some good punches but wont be able to sustain a long term war. It will be a disaster for Pakistan and even could loose the LOC.

No, Pakistan is not Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. Both Pak navy and Air Force have plan set up the inflicting max damage both military and in financial hubs of India. Pakistan army doctrine is based on offensive Defence. To penetrate Indian area (blitzkrieg style) and capture as much land possible for negotiations during cease fire. Specially with tactical and conventional nuke, losing is out the of question. Issue here is replacing armor, ammunition, jets and ship after first few months at war. Indian foreign reserves are high vs Pakistan . It will last lot longer even if Pakistan destroys half of their military. So only sane way of doing it is quick and total control of Air and ports once war broke out. This way India foreign reserve can’t be use to import weapons.

Incase of nuclear exchange, everybody is a loser.bur at least Kashmir will get their freedom.

 

[bluesky]

BD government should look the other way. Girls or boys, if they manage to enter BD, should marry someone in BD and stay. No need to go back to the slaughterhouse.

It is not necessary that they marry Bangladeshis. They can marry each other or they can choose their life partners from any country including Bangladesh. The main issue is how the govt of BD will deal with their issue of staying in this country. They are all highly educated. So, will they get jobs and working Visa? If one of them marries a foreign national other than BD will both of them get working Visa?

I think people from good families should think of adopting them as their own children if they are unable to return to their homes in Kashmir. My God, they have their entire life ahead of them.

 

[UKBengali]

No, Pakistan is not Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. Both Pak navy and Air Force have plan set up the inflicting max damage both military and in financial hubs of India. Pakistan army doctrine is based on offensive Defence. To penetrate Indian area (blitzkrieg style) and capture as much land possible for negotiations during cease fire. Specially with tactical and conventional nuke, losing is out the of question. Issue here is replacing armor, ammunition, jets and ship after first few months at war. Indian foreign reserves are high vs Pakistan . It will last lot longer even if Pakistan destroys half of their military. So only sane way of doing it is quick and total control of Air and ports once war broke out. This way India foreign reserve can’t be use to import weapons.

Incase of nuclear exchange, everybody is a loser.bur at least Kashmir will get their freedom.

Bro I have no doubt that Pakistan military can severely maul the Indians, especially after February this year. You have shown your military prowess against the big bully.
The problem is that India has many times the resources of Pakistan and could just grind Pakistan down by sheer weight of numbers. Your economy cannot sustained a prolonged war with India unless countries like China and Saudi etc back you fully militarily and financially. Even after heavy defeat at first the Indians will just import more weapons from Russia, Jews and France and come back again.
This fascist Hinduvtas government is intent on genociding the Kashmiris by means of making their lives so unbearable they leave their lands or accept 2nd class status in Hindu India like the rest of the Indian Muslims.
As a BD'shi Muslim I am ashamed that my government has not explicitly come out in support of the rights of Kashmiris.
Unfortunately Kashmir is the responsibility of the whole Muslim world and we have all let them down.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The problem is that India has many times the resources of Pakistan and could just grind Pakistan down by sheer weight of numbers. Your economy cannot sustaineda prolonged war with India unless countries like China and Saudi etc back you fully mitarily and financially.

This is why guerilla warfare must be used.

As we speak, Pakistan is pumping support and supplies to Kashmiri Mujahideen.

It is a low cost alternative and empowers Kashmiris to fight for their own destiny.

It is not always necessary that a more powerful side wins a war, look at Afghanistan.

Do not worry, PM Imran Khan and Pakistan military will bleed India dry, all while making it difficult for India internationally.

Sikhs, Dalits, Christians in India are making no secret of their support for Kashmiris as well.

When the time is right, war will be initiated when it is most disadvantageous to India. India will split into pieces like USSR.

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

We have lots of Kashmiri students here in Sylhet. My blood boils everytime I talk about Kashmir with a Kashmiri. Indians are pure savage! Indians shouldn't be considered as a human. They're far from being human...

 

[UKBengali]

This is why guerilla warfare must be used.

As we speak, Pakistan is pumping support and supplies to Kashmiri Mujahideen.

It is a low cost alternative and empowers Kashmiris to fight for their own destiny.

It is not always necessary that a more powerful side wins a war, look at Afghanistan.

Do not worry, PM Imran Khan and Pakistan military will bleed India dry, all while making it difficult for India internationally.

Sikhs, Dalits, Christians in India are making no secret of their support for Kashmiris as well.

When the time is right, war will be initiated when it is most disadvantageous to India. India will split into pieces like USSR.

I hope this works and there is no blowback for Pakistan.

Hindu fascism is a danger to the whole subcontinent.

We have lots of Kashmiri students here in Sylhet. My blood boils everytime I talk about Kashmir with a Kashmiri. Indians are pure savage! Indians shouldn't be considered as a human. They're far from being human...

Bro, not all Hindus are fascist savages but looks like the majority are by the way they worship Modi.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

India can be beaten. We must remain steadfast and determined. All comments I have heard from Bengali brothers (not the sold out govt) are indeed heartening. It is better for all of us in the subcontinent that Hindutva is fought wherever it attempts to enforce its maniacal demographic agenda. It is a rare cause that unites us all. Through Kashmir lies our path to liberation.

We cannot ignore the situation. Likewise we cannot accept defeat and repatriate Kashmiris to bd or pk - as that is acceptance of Hindutva.