Kashmiri students allegedly beaten up for not shouting anti-Pak slogans in Greater Noida

[Areesh]

Dude, for a savvy business person, you seem totally missing on the management theories. I was quoting Al Ries and Jack Trout. Go read up .. you will get the context then and will be able to respond more appropriately..

I already know that. I am saying that it applies to India in reality since Indian state is based on lies.

About ang tootna, well, I have just one word for you.. DHAKA

I have four words.

Muzaffarabad, Mirpur, Gilgit and Skardu.

 

[nForce]

when in Rome,do as the Romans do

This idiom comes from the origina latin -"si fueris Rōmae, Rōmānō vīvitō mōre; si fueris alibī, vīvitō sicut ibi".
What me or you say are the translations/interpretations/corollaries to that....Both are correct and used..

 

[waz]

Disgraceful incident. I hope the police take action.

 

[karan.1970]

I already know that. I am saying that it applies to India in reality since Indian state is based on lies.

So you believe the science of perceptions and positioning is all lies ? I know you dont have a clue of what I am talking here

I have four words.

Muzaffarabad, Mirpur, Gilgit and Skardu.

I can go talking Hyderabad, Junagarh etc.. but that's all India and Pakistan arm twisting the princely states post independence. Dhaka, on the other hand

Disgraceful incident. I hope the police take action.

You bet.. Omar Abdullah is going all out after the UP govt. I personally think its an election ploy to undercut Samajwaadi party in Uttar Pradesh elections (coming up) which is currently in power and has a major Muslim vote bank. Omar Abduallah on the other hand is part of the congress alliance and seems to be using this incident to damage the Muslim vote bank of Samajwaadi party..

It is their land and they live their even before India was born. So yes you have no right to tell anyone to leave their land or not.

Individuals do not own the land (except the one they have bought). State does.

I hope you don't speak the same BS in front of people in Sri nagar too. I won't guarantee your safety after that. Not that I am concerned about it though.

Dont worry about what I speak in Srinagar. Unlike in Pakistan, most Indians are pretty much safe in their homeland.

Is it the best you can come up with? Pakistan can cry Kashmir will remain with India. blah blah.

My best is reserved for more worthy discussions. Kashmir discussion between an Indian and Pakistani is just a venting opportunity. Why waste any serious thought process on that.. ?

 

[waz]

You bet.. Omar Abdullah is going all out after the UP govt. I personally think its an election ploy to undercut Samajwaadi party in Uttar Pradesh elections (coming up) which is currently in power and has a major Muslim vote bank. Omar Abduallah on the other hand is part of the congress alliance and seems to be using this incident to damage the Muslim vote bank of Samajwaadi party..

Well I hope everything turns out ok and no one is hurt. You are right about Samajwaadi being very popular with the Muslim minority in UP.

 

[Areesh]

So you believe the science of perceptions and positioning is all lies ? I know you dont have a clue of what I am talking here

I am just say and believe that Indian state is far away from lies. What you said as a theory perfectly applies to India in its apparent words.

I can go talking Hyderabad, Junagarh etc.. but that's all India and Pakistan arm twisting the princely states post independence. Dhaka, on the other hand

When did we fight for Hyderabad, Junagadh. As far as I know Indian gorces surrendered in Skardu a year after India's independence.

Individuals do not own the land (except the one they have bought). State does.

In Kashmir's case. It is the individuals. State is only relevant in massacring the individuals.

Dont worry about what I speak in Srinagar. Unlike in Pakistan, most Indians are pretty much safe in their homeland.

Well the kind of shit you often say about Kashmir here on PDF, I am perfectly sure if you or anyone else say that in Srinagar, your security would be in huge jeopardy.

My best is reserved for more worthy discussions. Kashmir discussion between an Indian and Pakistani is just a venting opportunity. Why waste any serious thought process on that.. ?

Or in Kashmir's case this is the best an Indian come up with.

 

[Ammyy]

No they can't as like indians can't live without Pakistanis.After all you bow to anything that is superior to you guys

Bow infront of superior??

Are you talking about 71 war and 93K soldiers??

 

[farhan_9909]

Bow infront of superior??

Are you talking about 71 war and 93K soldiers??

indians worshipping pakistanis.

 

[Ammyy]

indians worshipping pakistanis.

Is this counter statement for 71 war ?

 

[farhan_9909]

Is this counter statement for 71 war ?

Well indians do worship Pakistanis though i don't know why.

 

[dray]

Ground realities change all the time. As for Kashmir yes it is for Kashmiris and it is Kashmiris who should decide whether they want to live with India or not. In case India gives them the chance to plebiscite which it once promised.

You can start by fulfilling the preconditions, start by withdrawing your army from Azad Kashmir.

 

[Areesh]

You can start by fulfilling the preconditions, start by withdrawing your army from Azad Kashmir.

Ask your govt to accept the plebiscite demand and accept the disputed territory status of Kashmir first.

 

[paritosh]

[quote="Areesh, post: 5620935, member: 25703"
I go one step ahead and say even if it takes millions of lives from both side to free Kashmir from Indian occupation then it is worth it. Pakistan shouldn't hesitate in taking the matters to the extreme for the independence of Kashmir.

[/quote]

Easier said than done. A battle of attrition will be highly bent in our favor.
Lets not even talk numbers. Let us discount the fact that the strength of an invading force needs to be a multiple of the strength of the defending force by a factor proportional to the control the defending force has over the area it controls (in our case - 5,50,000 is a decent ballpark in Kashmir alone).
You probably might not accept it, but Kashmir has become nothing more than a game on one-upmanship.
Pakistan is waking up to a world where it has a lot of catching up to do in a plethora of HRD areas, the investment in defence spending alone sucks up so much of your annual budget that the scope to implement much else becomes difficult. (no I am not projecting that we are not in the same cauldron of third world problems, just that we doing better to tide over them by pioneering concepts like "frugal innovation", "disruptive innovation", etc...)
There is not even a pyrrhic victory here. The pursuit is flawed and so is any primary hypothesis that does not take long-term sustenance into consideration.

 

[Areesh]

Easier said than done. A battle of attrition will be highly bent in our favor.
Lets not even talk numbers. Let us discount the fact that the strength of an invading force needs to be a multiple of the strength of the defending force by a factor proportional to the control the defending force has over the area it controls (in our case - 5,50,000 is a decent ballpark in Kashmir alone).
You probably might not accept it, but Kashmir has become nothing more than a game on one-upmanship.
Pakistan is waking up to a world where it has a lot of catching up to do in a plethora of HRD areas, the investment in defence spending alone sucks up so much of your annual budget that the scope to implement much else becomes difficult. (no I am not projecting that we are not in the same cauldron of third world problems, just that we doing better to tide over them by pioneering concepts like "frugal innovation", "disruptive innovation", etc...)
There is not even a pyrrhic victory here. The pursuit is flawed and so is any primary hypothesis that does not take long-term sustenance into consideration.

Well in nuclear scenario nobody is a winner. About the rest of the post. Pakistan needs to keep the things on the boil and make sure that India continuously pay some price of its occupation of Kashmir. And hit it hard when it gets a good chance. Things won't remain the same you know.

 

[chhota bheem]

Well in nuclear scenario nobody is a winner. About the rest of the post. Pakistan needs to keep the things on the boil and make sure that India continuously pay some price of its occupation of Kashmir. And hit it hard when it gets a good chance. Things won't remain the same you know.

And what makes you think India cannot do the same to Paskistan.