Kashmiri girl quits band after fatwa !!

[Hulk]

What is amusing is that few people throw crap at you in name of religion and followers are willing to take all this. This shows lack of reasoning expected by the followers from the preachers. God had given brain to use and not become machine directed to work as listed in manual.

 

[Zarvan]

Lots of narrations and hearsay - but my favorite is number 23 - slave girls are Islamic but singing slave girls, well, that's all together different

Yes Slaves girls were allowed for sometime but using them for singing was not allowed Slavery was slowly ended because ending it once would have resulted in thousands and thousands of people without any home and job most probably getting involved in crimes and prostitution but if those slave women became mothers they used to get free and also get status of wives and Islam encouraged to free prisoners even to compensate for the most minor sins but as long as you keep them give them same quality clothes which the owner himself wears and also give the same quality food which owner himself eats

Without the sex you wouldn't have born in this world.Sex is beautiful and its the most important fact of human life.And religion is already Vanishing.20% of world's population no longer follows any organized religions,that's the highest proportion in the history of mankind.And that proportion is only rising.Its only a matter of time before religion becomes totally irrelevant in Human life.



Without the sex you wouldn't have born in this world.Sex is beautiful and its the most important fact of human life.And religion is already Vanishing.20% of world's population no longer follows any organized religions,that's the highest proportion in the history of mankind.And that proportion is only rising.Its only a matter of time before religion becomes totally irrelevant in Human life.

Sir from here I mean vulgarity and you have limited women nothing to but sex object what do an act and 3 women free buy a perfume 5 women free and many other things which your music adds and movies are promoting are turning your youth into completely wrong direction and you are now paying the price but not ready too accept

 

[muse]

Yes Slaves girls were allowed for sometime but using them for singing was not allowed Slavery was slowly ended because ending it once would have resulted in thousands and thousands of people without any home and job most probably getting involved in crimes and prostitution but if those slave women became mothers they used to get free and also get status of wives and Islam encouraged to free prisoners even to compensate for the most minor sins but as long as you keep them give them same quality clothes which the owner himself wears and also give the same quality food which owner himself eats

Spirited defense of Islamic slavery, well done! - but those singing slave girls, tsk tsk, they gotta go

 

[Zarvan]

Spirited defense of Islamic slavery, well done! - but those singing slave girls, tsk tsk, they gotta go

Yes Sir because I defend the truth and great things not pathetic things buy you those fathers of ignorant who know nothing just come here and talk **** because they are born to talk **** Islam slowly ended this slavery thing just like Alcohol was slowly banned in three different phases

 

[muse]

Yes Sir because I defend the truth and great things not pathetic things buy you those fathers of ignorant who know nothing just come here and talk **** because they are born to talk **** Islam slowly ended this slavery thing just like Alcohol was slowly banned in three different phases

Aay qui hoovay? Islam changed? How can the Divine change? why does it need to change if it is Divine? -- Come on, Zarvan, wouldn't you want a couple of slave girls too? You are a fair person, I am certain that with your unique education, you could show them a good time, and you seem to be good fun and learned - not qualities one usually identifies in the erudite amongst us.

 

[bangbros]

NO the band has become a known name

The girls got support of Hurriyat Conference and other Kashmiri groups.

my dear even hurriyat is also against those girl,on yestardays show hurriyat leader wer saying that the people who issued fatwa did the right thing...

 

[Zarvan]

Aay qui hoovay? Islam changed? How can the Divine change? why does it need to change if it is Divine? -- Come on, Zarvan, wouldn't you want a couple of slave girls too? You are a fair person, I am certain that with your unique education, you could show them a good time, and you seem to be good fun and learned - not qualities one usually identifies in the erudite amongst us.

No Sir slavery was ended Sir slavery was ended slowly but it was finally ended but ignorant who know nothing about Islam are here to talk **** because their daddy USA told them to talk ****

 

[muse]

Go daydi go daydi -- Ameen to that brather, they know nothing - Just know that you do good work and are much appriciated

 

[Azazel]

Yes Slaves girls were allowed for sometime but using them for singing was not allowed Slavery was slowly ended because ending it once would have resulted in thousands and thousands of people without any home and job most probably getting involved in crimes and prostitution but if those slave women became mothers they used to get free and also get status of wives and Islam encouraged to free prisoners even to compensate for the most minor sins but as long as you keep them give them same quality clothes which the owner himself wears and also give the same quality food which owner himself eats

What kind sick logic are these??Slave girls are allowed while Music not.

Sir from here I mean vulgarity and you have limited women nothing to but sex object what do an act and 3 women free buy a perfume 5 women free and many other things which your music adds and movies are promoting are turning your youth into completely wrong direction and you are now paying the price but not ready too accept

Both men and women are subjected to sexual objectification.Since you belong in a patriarchal community you only see the women side.In a philosophical sense its a part of human nature.Sexual crimes are very rampant in Pakistan and even in countries like KSA.Is that because of Sexual objectification.Crimes against women happen because of the misogynist mentality among men.

 

[Zarvan]

What kind sick logic are these??Slave girls are allowed while Music not.




Both men and women are subjected to sexual objectification.Since you belong in a patriarchal community you only see the women side.In a philosophical sense its a part of human nature.Sexual crimes are very rampant in Pakistan and even in countries like KSA.Is that because of Sexual objectification.Crimes against women happen because of the misogynist mentality among men.

Sir slave girls and men were part of that culture and Islam ended it slowly because they were in thousands if Islam would have ended it suddenly it would have resulted in disaster for the society so what Islam did was slowly ended for Islam said if for any sin you free slave your sin will be washed or you can afford and buy slaves from others and free them you will get lot of reward even for minor sins Islam encouraged to free slaves and those who keep them have to give them best clothing and best food and other things and Sir rape is not that high in Saudi because the don't promote sex like you and also publicly execute those who do this crime crime against women happen because you have portrayed women as sex objects the famous term item is just one example

 

[Awesome]

Aay qui hoovay? Islam changed? How can the Divine change? why does it need to change if it is Divine? -- Come on, Zarvan, wouldn't you want a couple of slave girls too? You are a fair person, I am certain that with your unique education, you could show them a good time, and you seem to be good fun and learned - not qualities one usually identifies in the erudite amongst us.

Btw, what is your take the whole Londi concept?

Is it really removed? We keep hearing about some guys keeping maids as part-time sexual partners, and it only comes out when the maids runaway.

Aay qui hoovay? Islam changed? How can the Divine change? why does it need to change if it is Divine? -- Come on, Zarvan, wouldn't you want a couple of slave girls too? You are a fair person, I am certain that with your unique education, you could show them a good time, and you seem to be good fun and learned - not qualities one usually identifies in the erudite amongst us.

Btw, what is your take the whole Londi concept?

Is it really removed? We keep hearing about some guys keeping maids as part-time sexual partners, and it only comes out when the maids runaway.

 

[muse]

Sir slave girls and men were part of that culture

Interesting, and ambitious, moving from slave boys to slave men, - but what really struck me was your admission that the culture of 7th century Arabia which you advance as a model, you herein suggest had to be changed, albeit slowly - Is this your way of suggesting that you are not being serious?

Btw, what is your take the whole Londi concept?

Is it really removed? We keep hearing about some guys keeping maids as part-time sexual partners, and it only comes out when the maids runaway.

They have a tradition of being slavers, and they are a bunch proud of their traditions, regardless of what they are - so are maids part-time sex partners? I encourage you to do some research on thread in this forum, one in particular, it used to be called Madineh Chale Aho but the title of the thread was changed to "Excesses of Gulf..." something or the other

 

[jbond197]

The thread is NOT about Pakistan

the thread is about Kashmir.

The only correct thing you said on the thread. This thread is about Kashmir which has nothing to do with Pakistan.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Music is haram for both men and women and the yes movies are also not allowed and haram and what your movies are promoting you can see the results daily in your country


For sometime I used but even than I never considered it halal always knew it was haram and I should not do but now I have quit for some months

but what's the reason music being haram ?

 

[jbond197]

You got all wrong sire....
Musuc is haram doesnot means singing is haram....
and music is haram for every muslim not just for girls but also for boys but Islam doesnot force......
orders are clear.....
and Muslims(if are true) are always happy and don't need faqe things to be happy....
this is vast nature be happy to see this creation to help poors to do good deeds....
well it's an odd thread overall as it is based upon religion.....
and pakazgi is happiness of girl....
bt nothing can be forced..

Why do Islam considers Music haraam? reasons?? Is it just because prophet didn't had the taste?

What kind of idiots use Facebook to send ethnic/religious/communal hate messages?

Their name is right there on the profile.

They don't care they will be caught or not because they are brainwashed into thinking that what ever they are doing is correct. This phenomenon among fanatics is observed world over.