Trash Argument, I personally visited Kashmir 10 times before 1989, so did million other Indians, since there was no problem with inception and it only started after 1989, I am of opinion that it was created from outside. Pakistan has problem is SWAT and FATA etc was this there originally? So in same way problem can be created.
You think you are the only one who uses personal experiences to gain judgement? A third of my family was cut off during the partition(mothers side). They lived in Srinagar and at that time it seemed inevitable that Kashmir was going to Pakistan until the war started. Those who wanted to go to Pakistan during the war were killed by Indian soldiers and they were stuck. Those who attempted to leave, also killed. Two of my maternal grandfathers brothers died and a sister two. One of the brothers lived of course, thats how we found out what happened until around 40 or so years later, a little before my birthday a call came, it was my maternal grandpa's brother. He told us everything that happened, who was killed, how the Indians lie, etc. We still have contact with him and his family but only through the internet but hes pretty old now. Of course i didnt even exist when the call came.
Common people are fools they hardly use brains and most does not have access to all information, so feed them wrong info and they can start hating you. The classic example of this was Sopain killings last years 2 virgins got drowned and 1 doctor deliberately declared it rape. Now it does not take much to think that someone if after creating anti sentiments. Mobs are deliberately made violent with some paid anti social elements playing lead role and then security forces are left with no choice but fire in defense and some people with prejudice will say Army is rude.
Or intentionally feed propaganda into their heads, or cut off a side of the truth, and show it partly, and then they find out what really happened, the outcome isn't very different, eh?
I read the bold part 5 times, dude that is certainly not something other Pakistani's are saying, you want names (Think Tank etc)? Only person who say's this is Muradk.
"Dr Bradnock said that in the Kashmir valley - the mainly Muslim area at the centre of the insurgency - support for independence is between 74% and 95%.
But in the predominantly Hindu Jammu division to the south, support is under 1%.Dr Bradnock said that in the Kashmir valley - the mainly Muslim area at the centre of the insurgency - support for independence is between 74% and 95%.
But in the predominantly Hindu Jammu division to the south, support is under 1%."
BBC News - 'First' Kashmir survey produces 'startling' results
Highly debatable, Kashmir is not just valley ok. The entire Jammu and Ladhak almost 40% of population is pro India you call that minority?
When 43% of the IoK population is worried about human rights abuses, it's not a minority, but it's still one of the three. We never see any pro-India riots in Pakistan Kashmir now do we?
What I am saying is that problem of Kashmir is exaggerated. Good number of people are fine with India if we just consider Jammu and Ladhak, rest are divided in Valley with decent number with India too.
There are formulas proposed for those sections who want to go to Pakistan and those who want to go to India and those who want Independence. i'm sure you have seen them.
If there are riots in Kashmir and curfew a major blame goes to Kashmir's themselves. Keeping peace in your area is primary responsibility of the locals and by resorting to violent protest without provocation some of this they deserve. They are religious fanatic bigots who just cannot stand a non Muslim period.
If that 17 year old was your son, you would grab a shitload of people and protest, then the soldiers would fire at you, and then it would turn violent.
You mean Pundits? 99% pro India and 1% percent independent. Chenab formula is available for them.Kasmiri's were also involved in violence against Hindus of Kashmir origin, how do you explain that, what you saw is what you reap.
Let's say the image shows independent Kashmir outlined like that. Disregard the orange.