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[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

Your information is outdated. Army has been called in since July 2010 to impose curfew.

Army did a flag march on the outskirts of the city last week..after the situation calmed down...they were back in their barracks.

 

[Pride]

Kashmir: The Domino Effect
By Sameer Bhat

03 August, 2010
Countercurrents.org

It is awful to follow Kashmir these days. Each voice in the tiny valley carries a hint of sob. Every hour brings in more sad tidings. The roar and the smoke of clash seem to be getting louder by the hour. Curlicues of Barbwire and Dannert wire appear ineffective. All efforts made to describe the strange shape of this furor have gone wrong. Without attempting to be all too worked up, it is safe to assume that the Tehreek [movement for Freedom in Kashmir] is on an auto-pilot.

There is a limit point upto which the human mind is capable of remembering names and ages. So many kids have fallen to ugly force in the last couple of weeks that the threshold has not only been submerged, it is completely blanked out now. Since the mind is programmed to seek answers, partly to beat the tedium and partly to comprehend what is going on, opinions are abound. Like moths on a starless night. Everybody – from the harried CM Omar Abdullah to the underground fugitive Masrat Alam – is incriminated. Vox Populi is filled with bewilderment.

The right to protest is a fundamental right under Article 19 of the Constitution of India. Throwing stones is not. Setting fire to government property is not.Clearly someone is not abiding by the law of the land. But that is not the whole picture. The rules on the use of force against unlawful crowds are also clear. Section 130 of India’s Code of Criminal Procedure, is clear: ‘If the assembly cannot be dispersed otherwise and it is necessary in public interest, then the executive magistrate can order armed forces to disperse the assembly. Even then, every officer must use as little force, and do as little injury to people.’
In Kashmir the line between natural rights and legal rights is often quite blurry.

At this moment a fear of the awkward looms. No one knows what happens next.
The protests come along as asymmetrical. Bricks don’t come from Pakistan, as prime- time TV anchors with prim faces smeared with foundation cosmetics would break down for us. The weekly Hartal calendars issued from some hideaway, much electronegative as they are, continue to be followed in letter and spirit. The traditional opposition to the ruling coterie, Hurriyet, appears as naïfly as the common man. Omar is politically sidelined – trying to assert his authority by taking turns subsequently to preach on TV, order probes, dash off to Delhi (as and when summoned) and express -- what can be at best be called a cross between impuissance and an inability to do anything.

Three full fortnights of strikes have passed by. While it strikes one as windy and impractical, given the fact that the axe falls first on the less privileged, the effrontery is seriously alarming. The curfews are getting punitive. Phones in more sensitive pockets of the valley are jammed for well over a month. Text messaging doesn’t work at all. Six million men and women of Kashmir are finding it hard to grasp what they can do and what they are allowed to do.

No one talks about the silver minted look of Omar anymore. As if on cue, everyone is looking up at the sky. The clouds appear shaped like stones.

Kashmir: The Domino Effect By Sameer Bhat

You always be selective to show your point of view Now read current bold part in same article...

 

[0.o]

Why is it itching Pakistan!!?

 

[Pride]

Karachi is not disputed territory Kashmir is. Pakistan Army is not killing people in Karachi but Indian Army is in Kashmir.
People of two or three different political parties are fighting among themselves they are not demanding freedom from Pakistan. People in Indian Occupied Kashmir are demanding freedom from India.

I hope you get the picture. There is no comparison between the two situations.

Care to explain, why killing humans in disputed territory is different from killing in non-disputed territorry?

This rant of disputed vs non-disputed does not hold any authority if any police or army kill their citizen. Whole world hates atrocities of Nazis killing Jews in non-disputed territorry, PA killing Bangladeshis in non-disputed territory and in Tianman square PLA killing youth in non-disputed territory.

 

[Pride]

Why is it itching Pakistan!!?

Because their historians told them that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan (Dont ask for any proof) and hence Pakistan sent some liberation army (which looted and raped Kashmiris and made it disputed) to liberate them.

 

[True_Pakistan_Zindabad]

Because their historians told them that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan (Dont ask for any proof) and hence Pakistan sent some liberation army (which looted and raped Kashmiris and made it disputed) to liberate them.

That's not true. Indians have looted and raped Kashmir like a bunch of savages. Just look at the way you guys communally butcher each other all over India.

 

[ejaz007]

Because their historians told them that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan (Dont ask for any proof) and hence Pakistan sent some liberation army (which looted and raped Kashmiris and made it disputed) to liberate them.

And your great Jawahar Lal Nehru agreed in UN that Kashmir is a disputed territory. Perhaps he was one of us you know working for ISI.

 

[ejaz007]

Care to explain, why killing humans in disputed territory is different from killing in non-disputed territorry?

This rant of disputed vs non-disputed does not hold any authority if any police or army kill their citizen. Whole world hates atrocities of Nazis killing Jews in non-disputed territorry, PA killing Bangladeshis in non-disputed territory and in Tianman square PLA killing youth in non-disputed territory.

Care to explain when police killed people in Karachi. You do not have any argument to bring forward therefore are trying to mix two different scenarios in the hope of concealing the actual killings done by IA.

 

[Pride]

That's not true. Indians have looted and raped Kashmir like a bunch of savages. Just look at the way you guys communally butcher each other all over India.

Who told you?? We dont allow international media to come up.. We rape, kill them and make anonymous graves.. did they tell you?

The whole Pakistan is on fire in every state and you are telling us for communally butchering.. wake up kiddo..

 

[Pride]

And your great Jawahar Lal Nehru agreed in UN that Kashmir is a disputed territory. Perhaps he was one of us you know working for ISI.

He did along with your government to unite Kashmir including your side of Kashmir and G-B but here comes your mass migration and attack.

 

[ejaz007]

These are your protestors carrying lethat weapons. So far even protestors have no been able to discover the weapons but Indians have discovered:

 

[ejaz007]

Kashmiris during the funeral of a nine year old child on August 03, 2010:

 

[Pride]

Care to explain when police killed people in Karachi. You do not have any argument to bring forward therefore are trying to mix two different scenarios in the hope of concealing the actual killings done by IA.

Well above statement from my POV is called Blabbering.. Please see my earlier post.. read it calmly and then respond..

FYI, I am just trying to know how killing of 45 people in J&K is cruel and unjustified as IA is killing while the same is justified in Karachi/KP/Balochistan where more than these numbers are getting killed is justified because of this non-disputed Vs disputed territorry. First one for us is same as second case for you. Period..

 

[Pride]

These are your protestors carrying lethat weapons. So far even protestors have no been able to discover the weapons but Indians have discovered:

And how many of them were killed?? Could you please post those pics where the same people were shown as dead?

 

[ejaz007]

People carrying dead body of Mehraj Ahmed Loone on August 03, 2010: