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Outcry in Delhi over Kashmir massacre
From TIM MCGIRK in New Delhi

Indian officials yesterday admitted that members of the paramilitary Border Security Force went on a 'shameful' rampage of killing in the mountainous north-west state of Kashmir on Wednesday.

The state governor, Girish Saxena, has ordered an inquiry into the security forces, who set fire to hundreds of shops and houses and allegedly massacred more than 55 Kashmiri civilians in revenge after separatists ambushed a military patrol. The incident is one of the worst atrocities by Indian paramilitary forces in their attempt over the past three years to crush an uprising by Muslim militants in Kashmir.

The latest Kashmir killings are sure to strain relations between Hindus and Muslims in other parts of India. More than 1,000 Indians died in religious strife last month after Hindu zealots wrecked a Muslim shrine in the northern town of Ayodhya and the wounds between the two communities have yet to heal. At least 20 people have died in clashes in Bombay over the past two days.

Eyewitnesses in Sopore, a town surrounded by apple orchards in the high mountain valley of Kashmir, said that early on Wednesday Muslim separatists attacked a patrol of Indian security forces, killing at least one member of the Border Security Force. Then, for more than four hours, the security forces, who are mainly Hindus, wreaked revenge in a crowded shopping district. One Muslim woman said: 'They went berserk. They were shooting women and children at random.'

The Border Security Forces sprayed a public coach with machine-gun fire, killing the driver and more than 15 passengers, said witnesses. Three other cars were also fired on, and then the paramilitary forces set the vehicles ablaze. Next, they began herding the native Kashmiris into shops and houses, said witnesses. Then the security forces shot them, splashed paraffin over the bodies and set the buildings alight. Officially, more than 250 shops and 50 homes were destroyed, but Kashmir sources claim that more than 450 buildings were burnt down. Another 25 bodies may still be trapped in the smoking rubble, claim witnesses.

Initially, the Indian government claimed that the deaths occurred during a shoot-out between Muslim militants and the paramilitary forces, when an explosives cache belonging to the militants blew up and flames spread to nearby dwellings.

But this version failed to explain why so many of the bodies were riddled with bullets.


Thousands of Kashmiri Muslim women defied a curfew and marched through Sopore yesterday protesting against the killings. In Delhi, the Prime Minister, Narasimha Rao, ordered the state governor to visit the demolished area of Sopore and authorised a payment of pounds 2,275 to relatives of the deceased. Human rights organisations have criticised Mr Saxena for failing to stop the excesses of the Indian security forces in Kashmir. Few members of the security forces involved in hundreds of documented cases of rape, torture and murder have ever been punished.

In New Delhi, prominent Muslim leaders and left-wing politicians demanded the sacking of Mr Saxena and also called for a parliamentary delegation to be sent to Kashmir.

Kashmir has remained under a virtual news blackout over the past few months. The Kashmir valley is surrounded by Himalayan peaks and telecommunications with the rest of India were paralysed after a micro-wave transmission tower was sabotaged. The government blames the militants for the sabotage, but the Kashmir separatists claim that the government did it to shield the ruthless tactics of the Indian security forces from outside scrutiny.

Outcry in Delhi over Kashmir massacre - World, News - The Independent

When is this news from 1992?:rofl:
 
May be you should go tell all this to Omar Abdulha , he is the CM of Kashmir. Even though he is a Kashmir elected individual. elected just this year.
He is a youth icon throughout India.
If he says anything like this then everyone will believe you.

Sorry for being off topic,
Isn't Omar Abdullah involved in that sex scandal?I don't think he is a good "Youth Icon" for Indian young generation.

A politician should not only be clean in his political life but also in his personal life.
 
Sorry for being off topic,
Isn't Omar Abdullah involved in that sex scandal?I don't think he is a good "Youth Icon" for Indian young generation.

A politician should not only be clean in his political life but also in his personal life.

Please read this news:
CBI gives Omar a clean chit in sex scandal: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

CBI gives Omar a clean chit in sex scandal
Headlines Today
New Delhi, July 28, 2009

The CBI on Tuesday gave a clean chit to Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah in the 2006 sex scandal following allegations by an Opposition party leader in the J&K Assembly that Omar and his father, Farooq Abdullah, were involved in the scandal.

Following the allegations by PDP's Muzaffar Hussain Baig, an emotional Omar offered to resign as CM until his name was cleared of the charges.

In its clarification, the CBI said the J&K CM's name does not figure in the case and added that no member of the Abdullah family was involved in the scandal.

The CBI investigated the Sabina sex scandal of 2006 in which two former J&K ministers, Ghulam Ahmed Mir and Raman Mattoo, were indicted. A CBI probe was ordered by the then CM Ghulam Nabi Azad following a letter from his then deputy Muzaffar Hussain Baig, who had sought an impartial probe because of the involvement of some members of the cabinet.
 
^^ Jana you are forgetting East Pakistan, Balochistan etc.

Isn't there something that a person in a glass house shouldn't do with a stone? I keep forgetting what that is.

@toxic_pus... the lady is trying to help...our Bangladeshi friend....to prove that India is worse of Than Bangladesh......But a similar thread on Bangladesh has been Closed...but this thread still lives....I wonder if this is anti India Bias at work here.....

I am leaving this thread open because it primarily has to do with an ongoing conflict and abuses in the disputed territory of J&K.
 
Yup thats why multiple Infiltration attempts are being made across LOC and Terrorists are being killed by India Army....They Killed 5 Terrorists trying to infiltrate this morning.

No wonder ...Indian claims of peace are false....
It may be true... But I'm saying that freedom struggle or no freedom struggle, what do Kashmiris have to fear from fasting due to the separatists? That is unless they were hiding from the Indian Army!
 
I am leaving this thread open because it primarily has to do with an ongoing conflict and abuses in the disputed territory of J&K.


Wow...Whatever suits Pakistani taste buds ..Haan.......We all know how Pakistanis and Bangladeshis ..love to rant anti India BS...so this tread will be a sugar syrup for those Flies....:pdf::pdf:
 
Genocide in Kashmir by Indian Forces

Kashmir, often called paradise, is a rich green mountain region North of Pakistan. At the time of independence of Pakistan, all Muslim majority areas were to become part of Pakistan. Kashmir, an 80% Muslim majority region did not become part of Pakistan. Currently, Pakistan administers 1/3 of Kashmir, also know as "Azad (Free) Kashmir." The rest 2/3 under Indian military occupation. There is civil unrest against the occupation of Indian Occupied Kashmir. India is responding with brutal force to crush the civil unrest demanding end of Indian rule. A number of U.N. resolutions have been passed condemning the Indian occupation of 2/3 of Kashmir. As always, the U.N. has not been able to implement its resolution.

The price is being paid by the Kashmiris through their miseries, tortures and brutal deaths as the hands of occupying Indian Army. The extent of torture, killings and rapes perpetrated on Kashmiri people by Indian forces are already creating a new record of atrocities. Gouging of eyes, cutting off of men's genitals, use of ever new methods of torture and endless curfews would shame Hitler's SS death squads. The Indian occupation army's deviltry such as gang-rapes, burning of entire villages and crops, destruction of economic life of whole communities and genocide of the Kashmiri people in defiance of international human rights laws, are everyday affairs.


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A question that every second woman asks!


For the last fifty plus years, Kashmiris have been fighting for independence from India. They are being butchered by over 700,000 Indian occupying soldiers stationed there. Still, Kashmiris have not given up to their oppressors. The UN resolutions on Kashmir have yet to be implemented. Since 1988 alone, Kashmir has sacrificed over 70,000 of its sons and daughters, billions worth of its property and peace of mind of its people at the altar of its national emancipation. The brave Kashmiris have decided to implement the resolutions by themselves and have pledged to stop Indian genocide in Kashmir.
 
Wow...Whatever suits Pakistani taste buds ..Haan.......We all know how Pakistanis and Bangladeshis ..love to rant anti India BS...so this tread will be a sugar syrup for those Flies....:pdf::pdf:

You can show it is ranting and raving by illustrating how the articles and information being posted is incorrect.

It is your nation being accused after all, try and refute the accusations - or, accept your guilt and either change things or just say that you are fine with the immorality and depravity of it all.

Somehow I suspect you'll go for the latter.
 
DOCUMENT - PAKISTAN, AZAD JAMMU AND KASHMIR: TORTURE OR ILL-TREATMENT / ARBITRARY DETENTION / POSSIBLE PRISONERS OF CONSCIENCE

PAKISTAN: AZAD JAMMU AND KASHMIR Around 35 political activists


At least 35 political activists have been detained and ill-treated after staging an apparently peaceful political protest in the state of Azad Jammu and Kashmir. Amnesty International fears that they are at risk of further torture or ill-treatment.

Twenty-seven members of the Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front and several members of the United Kashmir People’s National party, both of which favour independence for Jammu and Kashmir, were arrested on or around 7 June. Several of the detainees were reportedly beaten during arrest, in police custody or jail. They are currently held in Kotli jail.

Most of the detainees appear to be held under legislation which permits preventive detention of anyone making a speech which “causes or is likely to cause fear or alarm to the public” or “furthers or is likely to further any activity prejudicial to public safety or the maintenance of public order”.

All of the above were arrested after they protested against the Election Commission’s decision to reject their candidates’ nomination papers for the Legislative Assembly election on 5 July. The Commission rejects the nomination papers of candidates who refuse to sign a declaration declaring support for the accession of Azad Jammu and Kashmir to Pakistan.

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

Azad [literally: independent] Jammu and Kashmir is the area of Kashmir under temporary Pakistani administration. The state has an interim constitution which lays down the “ideology of the State’s accession to Pakistan” as a guiding principle for political activity, stating that: “No person or party in Azad Jammu and Kashmir shall be permitted to propagate against, or take part in activities prejudicial or detrimental to, the ideology of the State’s accession to Pakistan".

Those who oppose the accession of Azad Jammu and Kashmir to Pakistan have been harassed and denied a number of fundamental rights. Some have lost their jobs, other have been denied access to education and employment. Political parties favouring independence have been permitted to function, but have been excluded from participating in elections because of the requirement to declare allegiance to the goal of accession.
 
You can show it is ranting and raving by illustrating how the articles and information being posted is incorrect.

It is your nation being accused after all, try and refute the accusations - or, accept your guilt and either change things or just say that you are fine with the immorality and depravity of it all.

Somehow I suspect you'll go for the latter.

Hmmmm....good English...... let me see for how long this thread survives......

Idune boy got emotional because Some India Poster started .....ripping his Bangladeshi Dream of all fair Bangladesh and Devil India.........so he countered by staring this thread.......but unfortunately you deleted the thread he was countering...so his emotions will fizzle out in a day or two.....:cheers:
 
At least 35 political activists have been detained and ill-treated
Detained and 'ill treated' wow - wait, that is what happens at every police station in Pakistan, sadly.

after staging an apparently peaceful political protest in the state of Azad Jammu and Kashmir. Amnesty International fears that they are at risk of further torture or ill-treatment.
So were they tortured or not?

BTW, please stick to thread topic.
 
Kashmir is an internal part of India.

According to India alone - its sort of like a thief arguing that the items in his possessions are his, despite the court having stated otherwise.

The UNSC resolutions clearly describe J&K as disputed, and the global community, India and Pakistan endorsed them and committed to them which means even India accepted that the region was disputed.
 
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