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[Srinivas]

Oh yeah thats why Kashmiri women came on roads with stones in hands to brave bullets fired by Indian terrorist army in occupied kashmir

Nice demonstration Jana it is better if the normal people of pakistan show some sympathy and support(if exists) in a peaceful way rather than supporting terror. I welcome the change in the pakistans attitude using democratic means and dialogue is the best way to move forward.


Its time to talk about entire Jammu and kashmir which are under control of India, pakistan and China

It is even better than the rally organized by terror groups

 

[Pukhtoon]

Geelani denounced curfew and restrictions in OSJK​

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Written by KMS
Tuesday, 12 October 2010 18:40

Look at the Picture there are some grenades on the ground The Person was using them against the Police or army thats why they are beating him i think ? isnt it ?

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

^^^ look's like friuts to me, lol

 

[TaimiKhan]

Whatever your perception is-It does not really matter. As with time, India grows more powerful, there will be fewer countries who disagree with India. And the bargaining power of Pakistan vis-a-vis India will have reduced further.

Do you think Pakistan(or Islamists in Kashmir) can arm twist India into giving up Kashmir?
You must have realized that Pakistan's bargaining power or influence over India has been consistently declining over the decades. In the grand scheme of things, how does it matter at all.

Well, whatever then you or perceive say also doesn't matter to us.

Had there been no WoT / 9-11, things would have been different and you wouldn't have been saying what you are right now.

And the change has come just in the last decade that also after 9/11, before that, things were different.

 

[dabong1]

Are you serious….UN is just a joke and waste on tax payer’s money. It could not even stop Myanmar Junta from persecuting Aung San Suu Kyi. It could not even stop North Korea from exploding the bomb. It could not even stop Israel from attacking Flotilla….and you expect...tell me one country that respects UN and you will find none. It has just become a podium for diatribes.

Off late it has even lost its legitimacy by allowing itself to be used by powerful countries for furthering their interests. It gave legitimacy to illegal war of America on Iraq and to unnecessary sanctions against Iran. It gave legitimacy to powerful countries remain powerful.

As your avatar says UN is truly Unable and it powerless to oversee anything

India has lost its legitimacy by allowing itself to be used by powerful groups for furthering their own interests. It gave legitimacy to the illegal killings in kashmir,destruction of babri masjid,sikh massacre ect and is unnecessary threatening pakistan.
You indians are quick to forget that is was your govt that took the issue of kashmir to india......can we also ignore the UN labelling LeT as a terrorist group?

 

[karan.1970]

India has lost its legitimacy by allowing itself to be used by powerful groups for furthering their own interests. It gave legitimacy to the illegal killings in kashmir,destruction of babri masjid,sikh massacre ect and is unnecessary threatening pakistan.
You indians are quick to forget that is was your govt that took the issue of kashmir to india......can we also ignore the UN labelling LeT as a terrorist group?

As if...

 

[dabong1]

You forgot Tamil Nadu.

I also need freedom from these evil Bhartis.

BTW you need to google abt separatist movments in Arunachal Pradesh and Meghalaya..if there are any.

I dont know what a "evil Bhartis" is but we can either stick to kashmir that your govt and every other nation and international org accept as a disputed area or we can move into arguing about states in each other countries that accepted being part of pakistan or india.

 

[karan.1970]

Whatta Logic? :facepalm:

According to your logic.. give KP to Afghanistan as that is more near to center of Afghanistan and pretty easily accessible from Kabul.

Also may be Alaska given to Canada (or Russia)

Poor Sarah Palin

 

[KS]

I dont know what a "evil Bhartis" is but we can either stick to kashmir that your govt and every other nation and international org accept as a disputed area or we can move into arguing about states in each other countries that accepted being part of pakistan or india.

My nation has never accpeted that Jammu and Kashmir is disputed..Maybe they said that the other kashmir is disputed and you mis-understood it.

And apart from Azerbaijan which nation reiterated its support to Pakistan or for that matter the Kashmiris overlooking India's concerns.?

 

[Jade]

India has lost its legitimacy by allowing itself to be used by powerful groups for furthering their own interests. It gave legitimacy to the illegal killings in kashmir,destruction of babri masjid,sikh massacre ect and is unnecessary threatening pakistan.
You indians are quick to forget that is was your govt that took the issue of kashmir to india......can we also ignore the UN labelling LeT as a terrorist group?

and LET is terrorist group...any doubts?

 

[TaimiKhan]

My nation has never accpeted that Jammu and Kashmir is disputed..Maybe they said that the other kashmir is disputed and you mis-understood it.

And apart from Azerbaijan which nation reiterated its support to Pakistan or for that matter the Kashmiris overlooking India's concerns.?

Indians still stuck on Azerbaijan.

Had your nation not accepted it to be disputed, then Nehru uncle would not have promised the Kashmiris their right for plebiscite and free will to let the Kashmiris decide what they want.

Its something else if you people don't accept Nehru or discard him to be one of your leaders.

Plus, we have sufficient proof in the UN resolutions which make it pretty much a disputable territory.

Man, when Indians go on overdrive about Kashmir, they pretty much forget lot of things.

 

[KS]

Indians still stuck on Azerbaijan.

Had your nation not accepted it to be disputed, then Nehru uncle would not have promised the Kashmiris their right for plebiscite and free will to let the Kashmiris decide what they want.

Nehru uncle promised 63 years ago.Much water has flown down the bridge,two full scale wars,one covert inflitration attempt,a full blown insurgency with the help of cross border patrons.They didn change the borders.So what makes you believe any other thing in the future will.?

Also India has not violated the UN non-binding resolutions more than Pakistan.

So ppl move on.

Its something else if you people don't accept Nehru or discard him to be one of your leaders.

Plus, we have sufficient proof in the UN resolutions which make it pretty much a disputable territory.

Please present all the sufficient proof on the relevant fora and ask the international community (those who matter) to pressure India.But wait,they dont do that ..rite.?

Man, when Indians go on overdrive about Kashmir, they pretty much forget lot of things.

Ahem...we havent forgotten Op.Gibralter,Kargil,Kashmir terrorism etc.

 

[KS]

Well, whatever then you or perceive say also doesn't matter to us.

Had there been no WoT / 9-11, things would have been different and you wouldn't have been saying what you are right now.

And the change has come just in the last decade that also after 9/11, before that, things were different.

Cmon....and many here call Indians as living in a delusional world.

isnt this just like saying if my aunty had...........................................

BTW they have happened and it is better if we learn to live with it.

 

[Hulk]

So when the people in the sub continent were demanding freedom from British Empire, same logic could have satisfied them?
Since it had been a century, the British should have said that most of the states and people did not protest and hence British Raj is the will of the people?
Things are not that simple and sometimes it takes decades before differences in opinion arise and political awareness and awakening occurs which determine the course of a people.

Sadly this is not the end of the story for Kashmiris.
The Kashmiri people in Indian part of Kashmir are out in numbers and protesting against Indian state oppression for many reasons.
One does not see the same thing happening in Pakistani part of Kashmir.
That is the fact of the matter.

If the Kashmiris in India are truly content then they cannot have so much to protest about, especially since India is the economic giant and Pakistan is the struggling economy.
So why do the Kashmiris protest?
It has to be some deep resentment and a breach of trust which has taken decades to worsen to the point that Kashmiris are now openly protesting.

To not see this as a Kashmiri protest and call it a Pakistani sponsored one is quite a stretch of imagination, however this has been the grand conclusion drawn by most in India. Many cite the relative political inactivity of Kashmiris after partition as a reason that Kashmiris should just shut up now...it is not a simple thing and shutting the Kashmiris up by force would worsen the situation, however this seems to be the current mindset in Non Kashmiri India.

India has maintained that only the militants are the problem and they are foreign elements and have no local support, instead they are terrorizing the locals.
These are not militants or foreigners who are in the streets, that much is clearly evident.
This proves that ordinary Kashmiri indeed has some serious issues with India and is not happy despite being part of such a booming economy.

By your logic AJK is also occupied, since protest can happen later.

 

[Indian9]

And come on!!
The change in India(military and economy wise) also came in the last decade and a half ago or so...

If we had started modernizing when China began,we would have been ahead of them!
We have progressed so much in a decade and a half and are already recognized as an Asian power.
You ll see by yourself,how India transforms in the next decade or so...(specially when enormous growth was observed in the last 4-5 years)

Yep, you're right. India started 15-20 years late! We should have started in the 1970s, then we would have been in an even better position now! And even in 1991, it was near-bankruptcy that forced us to open our economy

That said, the point that many Indian posters here are making is very valid. I hope Pakistan realizes that they need to sit at the table and work out a middle path such as converting LOC to border, instead of playing the same old broken record! In addition they should stop their 'strategic depth' and other provocative stealth measures!