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[SpArK]

No surprises.

Hurriyat Leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani's Arrest - ISI Funding for Kashmiri Militants

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

OMG.........LOOOOOOL

 

[Omar1984]

Its extremely sad and embarassing that a pakistani doesnt know which is his flag and which isnt.

FYI this is your flag - note the position of the crescent and the one in the tower.

The debate on the Pakistani flag was made before in some other thread.

The Pakistani flags that Kashmiris carry during protest in India Occupied Kashmir are hand-made therefore wont look exactly the same as the original Pakistani flag.

Here is another example of Kashmiris with Pakistani flags in India Occuped Kashmir.

A green flag with crescent moon and star with white bar on the side is Pakistani flag.

Here is a brief history on the flag of Pakistan:

The National Flag of Pakistan (Urdu: پاکستان کا قومی پرچ&#1605 was adopted in its present form during a meeting of the Constituent Assembly on August 11, 1947, just three days before the country's independence, when it became the official flag of the Dominion of Pakistan.[1][2][3] It was afterwards retained by the current-day Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The flag is a green field with a white crescent moon and five-rayed star at its centre, and a vertical white stripe at the hoist side. Though the green colour is mandated only as 'dark green',[4] its official and most consistent representation is Pakistan green, which is shaded distinctively darker. The flag was designed by Amiruddin Kidwai, and is based on the All-India Muslim League flag.

Before the Second World War, Muslims and Hindus lived together under the British Raj. A number of the Muslims formed the All India Muslim League. After the Second World War, when the partition of India led to the creation of Dominion of Pakistan, the flag of the Muslim League served as the basis for the flag of Pakistan.

The green represents the majority Muslim community in Pakistan, whereas the white stripe represents religious minorities.[5] In the centre, the crescent and star symbolize progress and light respectively.[5] The flag symbolizes Pakistan's commitment to Islam, the Islamic world, and the rights of religious minorities.[6] It is based on the original flag of the Muslim League, which itself drew inspiration from the flag of the Sultanate of Delhi and the Mughal Empire in India.

Flag of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SpArK]

Omar again doing something good



50 stone-pelters, 22 separatists held under PSA in JK: Omar


Srinagar, Oct 6 (PTI) Jammu and Kashmir government today said 50 stone-pelters and 22 separatists were among 322 persons detained under Public Safety Act (PSA) this year.

A total of 322 persons have been detained under PSA in the Valley since January this year. These included 50 stone pelters and 22 separatists, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, who is also holding the Home portfolio, informed the state Assembly.

PSA is a tough law which extends to the whole of Jammu and Kashmir and empowers the state government to detain persons without trial for up to one year for indulging in activities that are likely to disturb public order.

Among others who have been detained under PSA are 51 foreign and 49 local militants and 43 overground workers, he said.

The Chief Minister said those detained under PSA were 10 Pakistanis and a resident of P0K who had crossed the border illegally.

15 Myanmar nationals and 27 from Bangladesh were also booked under the PSA, he said.

The breakup of the foreign militants undergoing detention in various jails under PSA were 32 Pakistani nationals, nine each from *** and Afghanistan and one from Bangladesh. They were arrested during various anti-militant operations since 1994, he said.


Among the separatists leaders arrested, 14 belonged to hardline faction of Hurriyat Conference and two to Dukhtaran- e-Millat. The other prominent separatists booked under PSA were Democratic Freedom Party President Shabir Ahmad Shah and Kashmir High Court Bar Association President Mian Abdul Qayoom.

The chief Minister said 402 persons were booked under PSA last year.
He said 183 prisoners have been released from jails during the tenure of the present government.


50 stone-pelters, 22 separatists held under PSA in JK: Omar - *National News ? News ? MSN India


Now ... everybody ....go back to Omar bashing mode.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

He and the rest of Hurriyat dont recognize Kashmir to be part of india, thats why they boycott indian elections. Kashmir is a disputed territory and he is right.

Fair enough. He is entitled to his opinion. Doesn't make it right though.

popularity cannot be gauged by the number of people in a rally. If he has to prove that he's the true representative of kashmiris then he has to stand in elections. No other way to it.
Azerbaijan is a country. All countries matter. What if a Canadian said india didnt matter, how would you feel then.

Only Kashmiris can chose who represents them and by seeing the huge crowd of Kashmiris in the video

He and the rest of Hurriyat dont recognize Kashmir to be part of india, thats why they boycott indian elections. Kashmir is a disputed territory and he is right.

Fair enough. He is entitled to his opinion. Doesn't make it right though.

popularity cannot be gauged by the number of people in a rally. If he has to prove that he's the true representative of kashmiris then he has to stand in elections. No other way to it.

Azerbaijan is a country. All countries matter. What if a Canadian said india didnt matter, how would you feel then.

In an ideal world, every nation would have equal say. But its not an ideal world.

I still don't have my answer though. Which nations consider gilani to be the true representative of kashmiris?

 

[KS]

The debate on the Pakistani flag was made before in some other thread.

The Pakistani flags that Kashmiris carry during protest in India Occupied Kashmir are hand-made therefore wont look exactly the same as the original Pakistani flag.

Then no argument that they are supporting Pakistan.Simple.

Just because the colours resemble another natioons flag doesnt mean they are the same.

By your argument Ireland is a part of India as Irish flag also contains Green,white and Saffron.

Bring better arguments next time.

 

[Areesh]

It is very much related to puppet thing…do you think he could have made such a statement if he were a puppet of GOI? No

Thank for confirming that he is not a puppet of GOI and that he has a certain constituent that he has to cater to as a elected representative of the state

That is irrelevant. It was killing of 100+ kids and youth of IOK which frustrated him and he gave this unusual but very much true speech. It has nothing to do with being puppet or not. Central would spank him and he would start giving explanations for his speech. Doesn't matter he said something which is indeed a moral victory for the people of IOK.

 

[Peshwa]

If anyone knows what real politik is about.....

This is the prime example of it.....Indians know one thing well....thats Diplomacy....

Watch how this "good cop....bad cop" game makes Omar Abdullah the savior and "moses" if you will of the Kashmiris.....

I am truly impressed with this "Great Game"

 

[Spring Onion]

Now, can any Pakistani member say that Abdullah is Indian Puppet? This rather bold statement confirmed the democratic traditions of India.

As regarding the Omar’s statement, what he says is J&K enjoys a special status with in the Indian Constitution and there is nothing new in it…so be calm

He seems to be coming to realisation that being an Indian puppet wont do any good to him either for Indians are occupiers and this is the only truth.

He is still an Indian puppet

the furor in IoK assembly has exposed the so-called Indian attitude towards democratic traditions.

 

[Hawkish]

Three questions:

1) Fact is majority of kashmirees don't want to stay with India. Is there anyone here who can dispute this? If you dispute it, Are you prepared for referendum in Kashmir to prove your point? (you can have Neutral US observers.)

2) Why is plebiscite per UN agreement is not being considered?

3) I am not sure Kashmires want to be part of Pakistan. but the discontent of the population with India is clear as crystal. and I understand India resisting giving Kashmir to Pakistan. What about making it sovereign nation?

 

[Peshwa]

Three questions:

1) Fact is majority of kashmirees don't want to stay with India. Is there anyone here who can dispute this? If you dispute it, Are you prepared for referendum in Kashmir to prove your point? (you can have Neutral US observers.)

2) Why is plebiscite per UN agreement is not being considered?

3) I am not sure Kashmires want to be part of Pakistan. but the discontent of the population with India is clear as crystal. and I understand India resisting giving Kashmir to Pakistan. What about making it sovereign nation?

Beating a dead horse.....

Sift through the countless threads on the Kashmir issue....you will find your answers....

 

[Jade]

He seems to be coming to realisation that being an Indian puppet wont do any good to him either for Indians are occupiers and this is the only truth.

He is still an Indian puppet

the furor in IoK assembly has exposed the so-called Indian attitude towards democratic traditions.

See puppets don’t have their own mind…they follow someone…either Omar can be a puppet or not be a puppet. He cannot be both.

Disagreement is a sign of democratic tradition and the furor in J&K assembly has just proved that and not otherwise as you have claimed

 

[Jade]

Three questions:

1) Fact is majority of kashmirees don't want to stay with India. Is there anyone here who can dispute this? If you dispute it, Are you prepared for referendum in Kashmir to prove your point? (you can have Neutral US observers.)

2) Why is plebiscite per UN agreement is not being considered?

3) I am not sure Kashmires want to be part of Pakistan. but the discontent of the population with India is clear as crystal. and I understand India resisting giving Kashmir to Pakistan. What about making it sovereign nation?

You want answers to the above three questions? better ask your government. I am sure they can answers them pretty deeply

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

a bold statement by a man who is under inexorable pressure from the people of occupied Kashmir

he clearly outlines the hypocrisy; the usual fake mantra about "integral part of hindustan"


even those red-dotted BJP walas were injured in scuffles when they went berzerk and tried to charge at him! actually, i wish I could see a video of it



edit: saw the vid

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Srinagar, October 08 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, Indian army agents killed a youth in Kishtwar district.

One, Tariq Hussain Bohru (20), was killed by Indian armed agents at Duggad in Keshwan area of the district. Dead body of a woman, Sajda Begum was recovered in suspicious circumstances near Hampathri Road in Kulgam.

Meanwhile, at least 20 persons were injured in teargas shelling by Indian paramilitary forces in Srinagar, Sopore, Baramulla, Shopian, Islamabad, Bijbehara, Pulwama and Pampore areas.

Youth martyred, 20 injured in IHK violence | Kashmir Media Service