Abu Zolfiqar
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Walekum Aslam Bhaijaan(i hope i got it right
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This itself shows how much well versed you are with Kashmir politics...Anyways not your fault...Hawks from both sides never let negative sentiments reach their side if they are responsible for it....
While I have my views and opinions; while I have my biases I try to be as fair and reasonable as possible.
thats why I say that let Kashmiris in Azad and Occupied Kashmir hold a referendum to determine their aspirations. Most democratic thing to do in an internationally recognized DISPUTED territory.
However if you are an intellect and understand geo-politics and how things work then i am sure you can find out that plebiscite is nothing but wishful thinking...
If you are hawkish and dogmatically clinging to a notion that (in reality) is unproven and devoid of logic ---then you will assert that Kashmir in its entirety is an integral part of hindustan.
very difficult to subscribe to such, given the current uprising and state of unrest
I would like to bring your attention to the event when we were close to solving Kashmir i.e. 2003-2007, there was no mention of plebiscite in that formulae either....So your choice whether you want to close you eyes and keep thinking about plebisicte or get a reality check and focus on what is possible....
so, was the issue resolved or was it just ''close''
there you go.
Sorry but your one sided and utterly biased option has been outright rejected many times....The solution is quit sponsoring terrorism and come to dialogue table with open mind.....
nothing unfair about plebisite...i think your country is scared of the eventual result, knowing what the outcome would be
So you missed the whole bloody point, don't you??? Was plebiscite held to ask where they wanted to live(same is true for Muslims on this side)....
the Kashmir issue has a religious dimension to it; but overall it is a territorial issue, not a religious one. I think that rather than pointing guns at eachother and saying ''this is mine'' and ''that is not yours'' --- give the power and choice to the people on the ground there
quite simple, really...
The truth is many people on both sides did not want to leave but had to fled or else risk their lives....No refrendum was help to find out what people want and their representative's(politicians) took decision on their behalfs...Similarly decision was taken for Kashmir by the caretaker..
Many Kashmiris say ''we don't want peace until we have a solution''
that is how things will play out....
So better we all get a reality check and see what else can be a viable solution...Otherwise we can keep fighting for eternity and the people for whom we are fighting will keep suffering....
I'm glad you mentioned ''the people''
some of your more emotional countrymen say ''screw the people, we just want the land''
Almost 2-3 months of unrest, 80 odd people dead and yet not a single international statement on this issue tells that Kashmir is an internal issue.....
no, it just means that the issue doesnt get the coverage that it should be getting....occupied Kashmir is not a very welcome place for international media persons; the only way to get information is from local newspapers
No doubt about it...Whatever i heard from my grandpa you are absolutely correct....
you act as if you aren't welcome in Lahore or Pakistan. Like i said, every year the Sikh Khatris come and they are received warmly --even as indians.
Pakistanis are world famous for hospitality.
Don't want to derail further about affairs of P-O-K but we have to deal with some meddling from your side as well...Anyways if you are talking about official stand of Pakistan then let me share with you official stand of India - "J&K is integral part of India"....
quite frankly, how far is this ''stand'' getting you??? Look at the news.
In other words if i want to be rigid, the message is the state is integral part of India, period....Now will there be anything left to talk???? So better come out of your official stand of Pakistan syndrome and talk, otherwise i am afraid there is not much to talk, no????
?All-party meet futile exercise to hoodwink int?l community? | Kashmir Media Service
In occupied Kashmir, the All Parties Hurriyet Conference Chairman, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and veteran Kashmiri Hurriyet leader, Syed Ali Gilani have termed the All-Party Meet on Kashmir, held in New Delhi with Indian Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh in chair, as a futile and time-buying exercise aimed at hoodwinking the international community and Kashmiris.
Mirwaiz Umar Farooq in a statement issued in Srinagar said that the meeting had no clarity of purpose. He maintained that Kashmiris were clear in their demand for right to self-determination.
He said that the visit of an All-Party delegation to the occupied territory would not serve any purpose. I dont understand for what purpose the All-Party delegation will visit the Valley after 90 killings. Everybody is abreast of the situation in Kashmir and India must accept the reality that Kashmiris are rendering their lives for right to self-determination and not for economic packages, he added.
The Mirwaiz said, the need of the hour is to stop killings in the territory, repeal black laws like AFSPA, withdraw troops from civilian areas and release all the illegally detained Kashmiri Hurriyet leaders and youth. Ironically India is talking through the barrel of gun. In past two days, over 20 unarmed protesters have been brutally killed. Talks, peace efforts and killings cant go together. If India is serious it has to translate its concern into actions, the APHC Chairman maintained.
On the other hand, Syed Ali Gilani in a statement issued in Srinagar described the holding of All-Party Meet a futile and time-buying exercise aimed at denying the Kashmiris their inalienable right to self-determination. He said that following the killing of 90 people in the Valley, Kashmiri people had hoped that New Delhi would shun its rigid stance on Kashmir but the outcome of the meeting was disappointing and negative for them.
The veteran leader pointed out that since 1947, India had been resorting to dilly-dallying tactics to deny the Kashmiris their rights. India even failed to fulfill the promise of its first Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru to let Kashmiris decide their future. It took the dispute to the United Nations and has been delaying implementation of its resolutions which empower Kashmiris to choose their destiny, he said. He added that it was high time for India to resolve the Kashmir dispute. »