Kashmir Is Killing India’s Military and Democracy

[wolfschanzze]

LoL all this about AFSPA well it was a necessary evil, When kashmiri muslims backed by pakistani proxies openly kill and ethnically cleanse the valley of non-muslims this what they invited the army rule.They should have thought about it before they started killings hindus and Kashmiri pandits.
What goes around comes around, Don't cry now they asked for it.
Pankaj Mishra article well as usual anti-India articles he earns his food by writing anti india article for new york times and other american journals so no wonder this article earned him some bread.

 

[Asian.Century]

It is these inefficiencies that dwarf issues like Kashmir.

That's my honest appraisal btw. Guys like Asian Union can jerk themselves off to Ghazwa e Hind all they want, but India's economic ailment is pre-dominantly structural.

Exactly India's economic is only defined by three things that is Call centres, writing IT software and proving back office support to health care, law sectors.

According to New York times, "Structural problems were inherent in India’s unusual weak model of economic development, which relied on a limited pool of skilled labour rather than an abundant supply of cheap, unskilled, semiliterate labour." because of the services sector of call centre, writing softwares and back office work, and minmal own manufacturing sector.

 

[Chronos]

So then lets be like Sweden, Norway, and especially Japan. They are all economy, and economy and little to no military. Would u want to be in Japanese or Bangladeshi position ?




First I never asked for Ghazwa-e-Hind.

Second I donot understand why I give so much nightmares to Indians that whenever I log back in, I have so many replies by Indians. I didnot even respond to you yet, another Gentic problem in quoting me always as do your fellow nationals in so many, Indians do. Listen I have no qualms if India becomes successful but I just can't take Liars, and exagerated liars who keep on harping Indian shinning image and downplaying Pakistan.

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Exactly India's economic is only defined by three things defines India's ecomic services sector, Call centres, writing IT software services and provind back office support to health care, law sectors.

According to New York times, "Structural problems were inherent in India’s unusual weak model of economic development, which relied on a limited pool of skilled labour rather than an abundant supply of cheap, unskilled, semiliterate labour." because of the services sector of call centre, writing softwares and back office work, and minmal own manufacturing sector.

Good points made. I agree with you.

seems my earlier post was too hastily drawn up.

I apologise. I will edit it out.

 

[Asian.Century]

First of all, I don't give a flying f!ck about Pakistan and what Pakistanis do or don't. That's their business. Most of my commenting is restricted to India itself. I stated a fact.

Also it is pretty funny you state you don't like exaggerated lies and then you engage in the same tactic.

Btw, it is no use whining after the fact that when you post comments on a public forum you get criticised.

Chin up, lad.

Simlarly Pakistanis donot give a fcking, fck fck to India and Indians dos / donts, but u see Indians swarming on Pakistani topics everywhere, in the process quoting me to show some sort of superiority of their country, while Pakistan and Pakistanis as you have noticed clearly donot come on Indian threads as often and if they do only one-two in numbers, nobody in Pakistan gives too much importance as itself ingulfed with issues.

Even on Indian defence forums, you will hardly see any Pakistani at all. I have yet to notice any Pakistani on Indian Discussion Forums.


As per you accusation of exageration tactics, do let me know and point out, I will review or even delete my post as I stand by my rule of being factual. You have my word as do all the Indians here. But maybe I burn alot of Indians with truth that it gets them orgasms every now and then.

I would rather ask you and your fellow Indians, to show BIG HEARTS, get out of the pigmy mentality as you have a much bigger country called, India.

 

[chhota bheem]

Simlarly Pakistanis donot give a fcking, fck fck to India and Indians dos / donts, but u see Indians swarming on Pakistani topics everywhere, in the process quoting me to show some sort of superiority of their country, while Pakistan and Pakistanis as you have noticed clearly donot come on Indian threads as often and if they do only one-two in numbers, nobody in Pakistan gives too much importance as itself ingulfed with issues.

Even on Indian defence forums, you will hardly see any Pakistani at all. I have yet to notice any Pakistani on Indian Discussion Forums.


As per you accusation of exageration tactics, do let me know and point out, I will review or even delete my post as I stand by my rule of being factual. You have my word as do all the Indians here. But maybe I burn alot of Indians with truth that it gets them orgasms every now and then.

I would rather ask you and your fellow Indians, to show BIG HEARTS, get out of the pigmy mentality as you have a much bigger country called, India.

If you reconstruct what happened in subcontinent in the last 30-35 years,you will realise,who has to pay a greater price for Kashmir.

 

[Chronos]

Simlarly Pakistanis donot give a fcking, fck fck to India and Indians dos / donts, but u see Indians swarming on Pakistani topics everywhere, in the process quoting me to show some sort of superiority of their country, while Pakistan and Pakistanis as you have noticed clearly donot come on Indian threads as often and if they do only one-two in numbers, nobody in Pakistan gives too much importance as itself ingulfed with issues.

Even on Indian defence forums, you will hardly see any Pakistani at all. I have yet to notice any Pakistani on Indian Discussion Forums.


As per you accusation of exageration tactics, do let me know and point out, I will review or even delete my post as I stand by my rule of being factual. You have my word as do all the Indians here. But maybe I burn alot of Indians with truth that it gets them orgasms every now and then.

I would rather ask you and your fellow Indians, to show BIG HEARTS, get out of the pigmy mentality as you have a much bigger country called, India.

what does big hearts even mean? Nah man. Give me that big wad of cash.

What kind of loser concept is Big Hearts? is this something Pakistanis come up with? The Americans, Germans, the Chinese didn't get where they are with big hearts.

I would rather the Indians had pygmy hearts and big minds.

 

[IndoUS]

Kashmir is the last thing that India has to worry about, Indian don't care about the Kashmir issue since it is going nowhere and we have full faith in our military. The main things Indian are concerned about is the economy, the current government won election for their promise on economic reform and not on harping about kashmir. People here are more worried about their future prospect in terms of economy rather than something like the issue of Kashmir which is not going to be solved doesn't matter what happens.

 

[Asian.Century]

If you reconstruct what happened in subcontinent in the last 30-35 years,you will realise,who has to pay a greater price for Kashmir.

After correct rescontruction of past decade as per ur reccommedation, I have come to the conclusion that, It is the poor innocent, KASHMIRS, who had to pay the most heaviest price without a shed of doubt.

Kashmir is the last thing that India has to worry about, Indian don't care about the Kashmir issue since it is going nowhere and we have full faith in our military. The main things Indian are concerned about is the economy, the current government won election for their promise on economic reform and not on harping about kashmir. People here are more worried about their future prospect in terms of economy rather than something like the issue of Kashmir which is not going to be solved doesn't matter what happens.

Are you sure Indian government will not be worried about, when Kashmirs resort to ARMED struggle after ARMS have been used by Indian Secuirty Forces 700, 000 in total to suppress and oppress them.

 

[Prometheus]

hhhhmmmm.......so what if India spends some billion on Kashmir??? ever took into account how much we get from Kashmir ???

leaving all the economic/ cultural and environmental benefits to India .............its costing Pakistan dearly ...........its the main cause of fundamentalism and extremism in Pakistan ............which there own leaders seeded into Pakistani society ........and i dont have to point to any thing .......its a well known fact

as soon as Pakistan forgets Kashmir , there will be peace in south asia.

Kashmir problems doesnot effect India ................bombs going off in kashmir , a little border firing here and there ......a occasional curfew ......it doesnot effect India at all.

There is no way in this current world , Kashmir is going any where ............Apart from the issue that India might can take Pakistan Occupied Kashmir

well , its the only case possible

After correct rescontruction of past decade as per ur reccommedation, I have come to the conclusion that, It is the poor innocent, KASHMIRS, who had to pay the most heaviest price without a shed of doubt.




Are you sure Indian government will not be worried about, when Kashmirs resort to ARMED struggle after ARMS have been used by Indian Secuirty Forces 700, 000 in total to suppress and oppress them.

nope...........Govt will just send 7 lac troops more to kashmir ..............and blame Pakistan for unrest and attacks .......and show case Pakistani guys like ajmal kasab.....which inturn will effect Pakistan

 

[Asian.Century]

@Prometheus You are basically admitting openly that its India who is the oppressor, who is the most terrorising nation in Asia, India is against peace in the region. so from now onwards as do other Indians keep admitting, India should stop fake drama that its ever Pakistan start LOC violations. India is a threat to regional and international peace.

And how much u get from Kashmir? Amd why is 700,000 Indian force in Kashmir if its not worried about it?


Anywyas the rest of ur post I decide to ignore you, cus you r still in amature age, would not like to put you down and your future Indian dream dented even more.

 

[Prometheus]

@Prometheus You are basically admitting openly that its India who is the oppressor, who is the most terrorising nation in Asia, India is against peace in the region. so from now onwards as do other Indians keep admitting, India should stop fake drama that its ever Pakistan start LOC violations. India is a threat to regional and international peace.

And how much u get from Kashmir? Amd why is 700,000 Indian force in Kashmir if its not worried about it?


Anywyas the rest of ur post I decide to ignore you, cus you r still in amature age, would not like to put you down and your future Indian dream dented even more.

oh well , India will go to any limit .....even if it comes to nuking few cities of Pakistan if results in stopping Kashmir going anywhere..........and thats the fact mate.

if Pakistanis can threaten to nuke ,.......why to forget that India can do the same.

what happens in Kashmir does not effect rest of India..................trust me I live near Kashmir ......all the curfew , bombs .....nevr effected my life.

India is only threat to Pakistan , because Pakistan keeps on path of adventurism ............and havent learnt from the past .

Indian govt is not at all worried ..........if conditions worsen in Kashmir ............govt will just send 700,000 more troops..........they are getting salary for just sitting in baracks anyway (no offense to my relatives)

on lighter note , how much is Kashmir is costing pakistan??? ever imagined mate?

why Pakistani mates forgets that they cant accuse India for human rights violation .............they are not saint in this category .

 

[chhota bheem]

After correct rescontruction of past decade as per ur reccommedation, I have come to the conclusion that, It is the poor innocent, KASHMIRS, who had to pay the most heaviest price without a shed of doubt.

Then who had to pay the second most as per your reconstruction.

 

[Prometheus]

Then who had to pay the second most as per your reconstruction.

hhhmmmm....paksiatn?

 

[Asian.Century]

oh well , India will go to any limit .....even if it comes to nuking few cities of Pakistan if results in stopping Kashmir going anywhere..........and thats the fact mate.

if Pakistanis can threaten to nuke ,.......why to forget that India can do the same.

what happens in Kashmir does not effect rest of India..................trust me I live near Kashmir ......all the curfew , bombs .....nevr effected my life.

India is only threat to Pakistan , because Pakistan keeps on path of adventurism ............and havent learnt from the past .

Indian govt is not at all worried ..........if conditions worsen in Kashmir ............govt will just send 700,000 more troops..........they are getting salary for just sitting in baracks anyway (no offense to my relatives)

on lighter note , how much is Kashmir is costing pakistan??? ever imagined mate?

why Pakistani mates forgets that they cant accuse India for human rights violation .............they are not saint in this category .

Well one you say Indian govt is not worried about Kashmir, whatever happens in IOK, but in the same breath openly calling to Nuke Pakistan if things go worst in Kashmir. Have to say you are a confused mind.

Anyway if it doenot effect you , since u live near Kashmir, y u even bother to reply on Kashmir thread, on a Defence.PK forum.. you shouldnot be worried to reply even. Sitting in barracks is easy, getting in Kashmir and giving lives in not easy, but very hard. can u give life to save Kashmir? Tell me about Pakistan what it costs Pakistan in monetary terms,?

 

[Prometheus]

Well one you say Indian govt is not worried about Kashmir, whatever happens in IOK, but in the same breath openly calling to Nuke Pakistan if things go worst in Kashmir. Have to say you are a confused mind.

Anyway if it doenot effect you , since u live near Kashmir, y u even bother to reply on Kashmir thread, on a Defence.PK forum.. you shouldnot be worried to reply even. Sitting in barracks is easy, getting in Kashmir and giving lives in not easy, but very hard. can u give life to save Kashmir? Tell me about Pakistan what it costs Pakistan in monetary terms,?

lets see .....hhmmmm.....I replied because I like replying occasionally .........as everyone does here and ofcourse Webby's forum works on replying in threads............I am not going offtopic or abusing anyone ........so its perfectly within rules of forum.

Govt is not worried ....because they know what they have to do if situation becomes critical ...................send more troops........if still notwork..............kick Pakistan .....simple as that mate...........Indian economy is not effected by the situation in Kashmir.

In monetary terms...........hhhmmmm......all those terror attacks they are resulting due to extremism in Pakistan ??? extremism was embedded in Pakistani soceity by its rulers................and its paying the price now.......infrastructure destroyed , lives lost.......bussiness ran to other countries.......almost all parts got effected by it.

Apart from that , all the money that Pakistan is spending on Kashmir issue.......i will not include paying terrorist outfits etc ....i dont wanna do blame game.............just imagine all the rallies , protests , black days pakistanis do........it all need money.

for example ............a person was convicted recently in USA for getting 3 million dollars from ISI for lobbying in US for kashmir...............where this money is coming frm??

Head of Washington nonprofit accused of acting as illegal agent of Pakistani government - Checkpoint Washington - The Washington Post