I've sat with UN people on either side. Unlike you, I represent no one, I represent the truth. And yes, 40 years, FOUR ZERO years. Back when Gen. Zia had taken over Pakistan and Ms. Gandhi was still alive, jumping and pumping Indian politics!! I've said it many times on here, not everyone on here is a fanboy.
So what does that prove? That the people you sat with had superhuman courtesy and tolerance? Or that your gluteus maximus muscles are tight, ripped constructions of stainless steel?
It is interesting to meet someone who represents no one, but represents the truth. Was it in that capacity that you got to sit in with the UN people?
Sometimes, you hear or face the bitter truth. You can try to f*uk with it but it only gets worst. Better to swallow the pride and accept the reality. There is nothing wrong with it.
It would seem that that epiphany has not come your way yet.
Also, allow me to surprise you more. The most propaganda I've ever seen (even WAY more than Communists did) can now be found in a 4th grader child's text book in India. Like the Vedic times, this stuff about Kashmir where Mr. Jinnah "signed" away the Kashmir.
Recognisable nonsense. Might one enquire,if it is not too much trouble, which text book are you referring to? You are of course aware of the right-wing overhaul of facts, history, myth and family lineage that took place recently, and you are surely not silly enough to hold that forward as representative of Indian views on the subject.
Any more than I would suspect even the simplest idiot of holding animus against the Pakistanis for believing that the whole of India was to have been partitioned on communal lines, but that this was foiled by the aggression and military actions of the Indian state.
Totally lying about the reality of the fact that apparently the "largest democracy" on the planet claiming nation, un-democratically took over an entire state where 91% of the people had voted against it.
....and the pants come down. There was no vote. There was no provision for popular voting. There were an agglomeration of states with treaty rights, whose rulers were given two choices, and the ruler of one such state having taken his choice.
Look who's lying.
Even today, if per the UN's decision back in the 60's, and respecting the Kashmiri population, a VOTE is conducted, Kashmir would become an independent state in days ( a VOTE is a human and a democratic right of the people to pick how and by whom they want to be governed). This is just the reality. I won't argue more. There is a saying, if you argue with stupids, they would bring you down to their level and will try to beat with stupidity and talk.
No kidding? That's what the 'stupids' do? Every now and then, your pure-bred (!) American heritage intervenes. It is so enchantingly reminiscent to hear this expression in a gora's mouth.
Every individual human being has a right to determine how he, or she, will be governed. When they exercise it, they accept that they are giving up a portion of their human independence to an anonymous, impersonal entity called the state. When they do that, they also give up the right to determine their own status every hour, on the hour.
A century and a half ago, a congregation of states, each with unique rights and claims to independence, and a record of prior existence before giving up their separate rights to the congregation, came face to face with a situation where some of them wished to part company. That congregation then fought a civil war to enforce the principle that, once determined, the nationality and independence of a constituent state would not be up for auction every now and then.
Perhaps your sitting companions of forty years' of standing, or sitting, might give you a hint which congregation that was. Hint: its flag had 34 - count them, 3 times 10, remember your favourite ten times table? plus 4 - stars and 13 - that's 1 times 10 plus 3 - stripes.
You are such a plastic-bottomed fake.
