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Kashmir; Aggressive diplomacy begining to have its effects

India, after unilaterally abolishing article 370, thinks that Kashmir is an internal matter.. "Bilateral" is what agreed in Shimla agreement as well..

Is it too difficult to understand for Sanghees?


bhai aik baat karlo.. aaj you were saying in some other thread that India might delay..
Do u hve any idea of millitary planing?
In differnt situations, and when situation changes, plans change too?
Bt it not means that the target to be left behind?
Uncle looks like, u r not comming put of tht PDF posting mode?
Differnt threads are at differnt times, and knows this war won't Jst ends up with pakistan, China and pak both have mutual plans for that, as our Intel goes deep into them, same way thy also know our basic targets in thier sides?
Right now, modi is trying to gather some support for his false flag operations, by visiting UAE, FRANCE talking to trump trying to convince him against china's aims and its relationship with pakistan?
And as a result u can see trump samashs more preasure on China cause evn usa can't come on direct confrontation with China cause that I'll bring. Russia too?
So it's jst not that ezy for modi like 27th Feb, it may end up biggest humiliation of any Indian govt in its history?
Indias political govt wants a action bt thier military planners r not on the same page, thy don't want to face humiliation more worse then 27th Feb and to bring China into this conflict?
For them it's simple, kill as much kashmiris as thy can and let billionere hindu extermist come and take thier lands on the fake promises of making progress in occupied kashmir, Thts what all thy can do most, bt only problem for them is kashmiris ppls fighting back, and thy can't open tht curfew cause it will bring real horrible Pic of the genocide done by Modi govt in occupied kashmir
 
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Do u hve any idea of millitary planing?
In differnt situations, and when situation changes, plans change too?
Bt it not means that the target to be left behind?
Uncle looks like, u r not comming put of tht PDF posting mode?
Differnt threads are at differnt times, and knows this war won't Jst ends up with pakistan, China and pak both have mutual plans for that, as our Intel goes deep into them, same way thy also know our basic targets in thier sides?
Right now, modi is trying to gather some support for his false flag operations, by visiting UAE, FRANCE talking to trump trying to convince him against china's aims and its relationship with pakistan?
And as a result u can see trump samashs more preasure on China cause evn usa can't come on direct confrontation with China cause that I'll bring. Russia too?
So it's jst not that ezy for modi like 27th Feb, it may end up biggest humiliation of any Indian govt in its history?
Indias political govt wants a action bt thier military planners r not on the same page, thy don't want to face humiliation more worse then 27th Feb and to bring China into this conflict?
For them it's simple, kill as much kashmiris as thy can and let billionere hindu extermist come and take thier lands on the fake promises of making progress in occupied kashmir, Thts what all thy can do most, bt only problem for them is kashmiris ppls fighting back, and thy can't open tht curfew cause it will bring real horrible Pic of the genocide done by Modi govt in occupied kashmir
Bhai, believe me I tried to understand what you wrote but couldn't. I know that plans change but not in 24, 48 or even 72 hours. Itna tou hamain bhi pata hai.

Khair what I got from your post is that India will attack, it's just that the plan has been delayed, because it didn't have support of several countries, including UAE and France, and Indians also feared retaliation from China.

And now the situation changed, or changing for India that it will attack pakistan now... Like now it got the support of UAE, France and different other countries and have got the assurances that China won't attack..

Is this what you are talking about?
 
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This is the international page of New York Times. India has to give up Kashmir, sooner or later. The RSS goon leadership may just have expedited India's demise by dreaming of devouring Kashmir.

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This is what the Kashmiris think of Indians in general after facing 72 years of the most heinous Indian occupation facing brutality, rape and murder.


Lol. They had already reduced Muslims from Majority to Minority in Jammu
You are right. The genocide of Kashmiri Muslim Civilians of Jammu took place at the time of Partition.

Here are the details and personal accounts of the survivors of that genocide published by AL-Jazeera news.

The forgotten massacre that ignited the Kashmir dispute
In November 1947, thousands of Muslims were killed in Jammu by paramilitaries led by the army of Dogra ruler Hari Singh.

by Rifat Fareed
06 Nov 2017 GMT+3
Srinagar, Indian-administered Kashmir - The family of Israr Ahmad Khan lived through the massacre of Jammu in what was then part of the princely state of Kashmir. He recalls that many of his relatives were killed during the violence that followed months after British rule over Indian sub-continent ended.



"My father was young then and other immediate family members were in Kashmir at that time. But many of my relatives were brutally killed," the 63-year-old told Al Jazeera.

"To be honest that was a mad period. There was no humanity shown at that time," Khan, who retired as senior police officer, said at his home in Jammu.

In November 1947, thousands of Muslims were massacred in Jammu region by mobs and paramilitaries led by the army of Dogra ruler Hari Singh.

The exact number of casualties in the killings that continued for two months is not known but estimates range from 20,000 to 237,000 and nearly half million forced into displacement across the border into the newly created nation of Pakistan and its administered part of Kashmir.

Khan said many of his relatives had escaped to Pakistan, where they continue to live. "The incident divided families. There were a lot of Muslims in Jammu but now you won't find many," he said.

The killings triggered a series of events, including a war between two newly independent nations of India and Pakistan, which gave birth to Kashmir dispute.

The killings took place when millions of Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs were crossing the border from the one side to the other, as part of British-designed plan to partition the subcontinent into India and Pakistan.

"The immediate impact (of partition) was in Jammu. The Muslim subjects from different parts of Jammu province were forcibly displaced by the Dogra Army in a programme of expulsion and murder carried out over three weeks between October-November 1947," Idrees Kanth, a fellow at International Institute of Social History in Amsterdam, who researched the 1940s history of Kashmir, told Al Jazeera.

In mid-October, the Dogra Army troops began expelling Muslim villagers from Jammu province. The refugees were sent on foot toward West Punjab (later to form part of Pakistan), where most were accommodated in refugee camps in the districts of Sialkot, Jhelum, Gujrat and Rawalpindi.

On November 5, Kanth said, the Dogra Army soldiers began another organised evacuation of the Muslims but "instead of taking them to Sialkot, as they had been promised, the trucks drove them to forest hills of Rajouri districts of Jammu, where they were executed".

Kanth added that there may have been a systematic attempt by the dying Dogra regime to ensure that records of the incident are destroyed and made it a lesser known massacre of the partition.

"I guess as happens with certain events, they got lost to history and resurface at a later time and in that sense they sort of rewrite our memory of the past. I would say the particular incident was sort of lost on us to a great extent until the post 1990s when the event was resurrected as yet another example of Dogra regime's communal politics," Kanth said.

'Demographic changes'
The historians say that the killings carried out by the Hindu ruler's army and Sikh army was a "state sponsored genocide" to bring out demographic changes in Jammu - a region which had an overwhelming population of Muslims.

"The massacre of more than two lakh (two hundred thousands) Muslims was state-sponsored and state supported. The forces from Patiala Punjab were called in, RSS (a right-wing Hindu organisation) was brought to communalise the whole scenario and kill Muslims," said PG Rasool, the author of a book The Historical Reality of Kashmir Dispute.

The Muslims, who constituted more than 60 percent of the population of Jammu region, were reduced to a minority after the killings and displacement.


He said that when the then Indian Prime Minister of India Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru and Kashmiri leader Sheikh Abdullah met a delegation of Muslims in Jammu, they were told about the "tragic events" but they preferred to remain silent.

"They didn't want that people in Kashmir - which had a Muslim majority from the beginning - should know about it because it could have led to demonstrations. The state from the beginning has tried to cover up it. I don't call it massacre but it was a staged genocide that is unfortunately not talked about," he said.

"They thought even if they lose Kashmir at least they should get Jammu and the only way was to have a Hindu majority."

Muhammad Ashraf Wani, a professor of History at the University of Kashmir, said that the Muslims in Jammu "do not talk about it because they fear for their survival".

"This is the worst tragedies in the history of Kashmir but unfortunately no one talks about it because the state doesn’t want anyone to remember it," Wani said.

Khurram Parvez, a noted human rights defender in Kashmir, told Al Jazeera that the perpetual conflict in Kashmir has its roots in 1947 massacre. "It is deliberately forgotten. Actually, the violence of that massacre in 1947 continues. Those who were forced to migrate to Pakistan have never been allowed to return," he said.

Five days after the Jammu killings, tribal militias from Pakistan’s North Western Frontier Province (now Khyber Pakhtunkhwa), where many of the Jammu Muslims had family ties, invaded Kashmir.

As the army of tribesmen rushed to Kashmir, the army of Dogra monarch fled to Jammu. The king Hari Singh signed the instrument of accession with New Delhi, which sent its army to fight the tribesmen.

The fighting of several weeks between tribesmen and Indian Army eventually led to first India-Pakistan war. When New Delhi and Islamabad agreed to a ceasefire in January 1948, the formerly princedom of Jammu and Kashmir was divided between the two countries.


The conflict born in 1947 has led to three wars between India and Pakistan. An estimated 70,000 people have been killed in the violence in past three decades since the armed revolt against Indian rule broke out in the region in 1989.

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The people around the world, the peace activists, the human rights activists etc and Indian Muslims themselves should listen to the Indian Opposition political party leadership that itself is pointing at the atrocities being comitted in the name of security.


Pakistan's Kartarpura policy to bridge the sikh community with its roots in Pkistan is also having its effects worldwide as Sikhs from around the world are joining forces to snatch the mask of democracy from the Nazi hitler loving RSS leadership of BJP.
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Media Awareness, demonstrations by Pakistani and Kashmiri diaspora and Aggressive diplomacy by PM Pakistan is begining to have its effects around the world.

All this will die down, like it did in 90's, if Awareness is not followed by military actions in some way or form from Pakistani side. Countries are quick to sympathies but no one is coming to fight Pakistan war.
 
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All this will die down, like it did in 90's, if Awareness is not followed by military actions in some way or form from Pakistani side. Countries are quick to sympathies but no one is coming to fight Pakistan war.
Indeed, Pakistan will have to fight its own war, diplomatic as well as military.

Not that Pakistanis want a war but one would be pressed upon them on enemy's terms if we don't wake up to the seriousness of the RSS threat ourselves.

RSS has thrown the gauntlet and we must respond in kind to stop the perpetual RSS drum beat actoss the border...

Or else, up next is a false flag strike followed by water terrorism and sanctions from FATF for supporting Mujahideen whether you do or dont support them.

So the ball is in Pak court, whether we choose to return the shot or conceed a point for more of the same will be revealed soon enough. War is inevitable with these Gao Rakshak Extremists.

By the way, tell any stake loving American and they would literally be flabbergasted that the RSS goon BJP leadership of India lynch beef eaters and dream of doing the same all over the world due to their Gao Rakshak - Cow Protection ideology. Pakistani expats should spread the awareness about such sub human beliefs all over the world which proscribe Animal life more valuable over human life.

 
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Indeed, Pakistan will have to fight its own war, diplomatic as well as military.

Not that Pakistanis want a war but one would be pressed upon them on enemy's terms if we don't wake up to the seriousness of the RSS threat ourselves.

RSS has thrown the gauntlet and we must respond in kind to stop the perpetual RSS drum beat actoss the border...

Or else, up next is a false flag strike followed by water terrorism and sanctions from FATF for supporting Mujahideen whether you do or dont support them.

So the ball is in Pak court, whether we choose to return the shot or conceed a point for more of the same will be revealed soon enough. War is inevitable with these Gao Rakshak Extremists.

By the way, tell any stake loving American and they would literally be flabbergasted that the RSS goon BJP leadership of India lynch beef eaters and dream of doing the same all over the world due to their Gao Rakshak - Cow Protection ideology. Pakistani expats should spread the awareness about such sub human beliefs all over the world which proscribe Animal life more valuable over human life.


Like I said, Awareness things go so far. From Africa to Asia there are several dozens issues and organization seeking attention. American society loves use of shock and awe and Raw power. Be it in their vehicles engine or use of military force. Once Pakistan start showing some fireworks, it will draw attention automatically from western media and masses.
 
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BBC reports how a Doctor is arrested for talking to BBC about the deteriorating and atrocious condition of healthcare in Kashmir:


Here are Modi and Amit Shah sharing a stage during their political rally where the killers of more than 150 Muslims in Muzaffarnagar are being praised and backed by BJP. The 2 MLAs being presented with garlands asked hindus to kill Muslims. Forward such videos to reveal the real faces of BJP hindutwa leaders

 
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US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar: We should be calling for an immediate restoration of communication; respect for human rights, democratic norms, and religious freedom; and de-escalation in Kashmir. International organizations should be allowed to fully document what is happening on the ground.

What new she said? Trump said same thing
 
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Be alerted
Next 48 to 72 hours india may attack Pakistan under a false flag any where from borders to LOC

Wonder whose flag we will be using when we are attacking Pakistan with a false flag operation
 
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Wonder whose flag we will be using when we are attacking Pakistan with a false flag operation
Surly JEM!
we know ur plans, poor pakistani fishermen's u caught, u will kill them and put thier bodies to show the world?
Bt we hve the counter for tht, and when u ill do tht, we ill show tht
 
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