Sir,
Nawaz Sharif should be hanged for his cowardice---. Gutless man---as he was described by Bill Clinton in one of his interviews---.
Troops died---because that is what they signed for and that is what they are for----.
As I stated in my other post---indian military had run out of 155 mm rounds----they had to airlift them from south Africa on the run----but they were not enugh to fight a war with Pakistan which had all its ammunition intact----. Air force was the weak link for Pakistan----lack of ammunition a weak link for the indian military----.
You are either misinformed of the actual situation or you don't have the entire story. Bill Clinton was the Commander in Chief of the most powerful military, who, per the history has never said no to military operations ordered by the President. If NS was such "gutless", how come the Military didn't keep advancing the front?
Civilians didn't matter back then, and had no business and authority into military affairs. So why even bother listening to NS? Why not just continue and announce the Marshal Law (or Martial Law like Martial Arts as I jokingly refer to these coupes in Pakistan). That way, NS didn't have to come back to Pakistan to be hanged, the military would continue the super smart operation to take over India and live would be great, right?
Well, as always, when the military in Pakistan effs it up, they send the Civilian guy to "take care of matters", they know that no military leader will be entertained by the West on equal, respectful terms as the West knows how the military rules in Pakistan. Even now, when IK was doing his silly sit ins, about 5 of your corps commanders wanted a coupe or to throw away NS. What stopped him? Was the powerful democracies trying to do good to Pakistan and the money that's been coming in and will come in. The military needed the funds so the deal was that NS gets to stay.......the military now has figured out that if the Civilians don't rule and grow the country, there may not be Gas to fill up tanks of vehicles and trailers to take tanks and other weapons to the war zone.
You referred to dead soldiers as "that's what they signed up for"....is that true? Throwing thousands of trained professionals in the name of a country, without a proper backup, airlift or safety plan, you just throw these people with families in as if they were excess human articles???? Common man, you got to have some respect for these soldiers who lost their lives for a military campaign which was as short lived as a two week vacation in the Western world.
Whether they were out of 155 MM ammo or not, they had a HUGE arsenal of the IAF. When NS wanted to seize fire with India, he was told that the IAF was ready to respond with some serious muscle, including the nuke option. What do you think a sane person, trying to save a nation and who was already working on building business and economy would do??? Knowing the air force would be destroyed like 80%, majority of which would never see the enemy jet due to the BVR weapons in IAF's arsenal,knowing that majority of the SSG were in Kargil and the numbers of these special forces were really low, so almost no special ops on other fronts, knowing that mobilizing and going to war with India, at that time when Pakistan had been dealing with sanctions, wouldn't produce jack, what do you think anyone with some brains would do?
There is a good movie called "Confidence", you should see it. In that movie, there is a gangster who tells the main character (Ed Burns), that "sport, you got style, and style could get you killed". I love this line and its applicable to Mushy. The guy had a serious style and power issue, but he was about to get millions of his countrymen killed out of his ego and senseless military campaign that didn't have any of the other two military branches working with him. That's style and it would've damaged 75% of the PAF and about over half the PN. Let alone the destruction to the country's economy and to its population.
@MastanKhan @MilSpec @Viper0011.
Kargil is just another event in the long trail of the Pakistan Army’s
“conflict initiation.”
It was bound to end as all such events have with “conflict termination” by India
I agree with your entire post and its points BUT the line in bold, above. There are a lot of other conflicts that I've learned over the history of both India and Pakistan where India couldn't really do "conflict termination". I can start speaking but this may not be the right place for it.
But yes, Pakistan Army's adventurous nature in Kargil resulted in a LOT of loss and it barely avoided a huge war if it was to go that way. People think NS was "gutless", I think putting your ego behind and trying to still make peace with an enemy who's ready to start a full scale war, speaks volume of the matureness of this individual, who was thrown in by the Army to go cleanup the mess. Smart people avoid conflict and build nations, economies and then their defense forces.
