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Kargil war was a total disaster, claims Gen Majeed Malik

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India want to win the war by trolling. They don't accept data of Indian Army, not even US, CIA or UN Data, let alone Pakistan Army. They are ready to accept Nawaj Sharif and Najam Sethi!!! The question is how good they can be than armies or spy agencies! The most funny joke is they are not even ready that Pakistan was requested by Bill Clinton to pull the army back and Mussarf wasn't given any further troops for the war. He had 5000 troops only to fight against 30000. Salute to that courage! The fact is if Pakistan had lost all battles, then India would have Islamabad annexed by now!!!!!!!The real truth is India had strategic loss in every battle it fought and somehow they are eroding and eroding!
 
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If Pakistan had lost all the battles, then Pakistan would've never challenged India.

Jokers!!!Najam Sathi or Altaf are not considered as Pakistani. After all, Najam was acting anti-Pakistan for quite a long time. Everyone wants power. What Nawaj or Najam said doesn't have value. Many times Nawaj said that he would give India decisive defeat if they kept on anti-Pakistan propaganda! Never take a Pakistani Politician's comment too much seriously! Today he said, tomorrow he will say he didn't. That is real truth. This is why, Bangladesh want some honesty in Pakistan if they really want to have a deeper relation with us.


Ya, we know how to defeat you! Want a war! We will give you within 10yrs. Believe me!


If he is ex pakistani general of 10 corps or not? If not you are none other then a numb nut jerk...

Complete details about 1965, 1971 and 1999.
 
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lol curse idiot, your stupid video doesn't prove anything. Pakistan still WON STRATEGIC PEAKS.LOL

WHAT DID INDIA WIN. HAAHAHA NOTHING!, EXCEPT FOR SOLDIERS IN BODY BAGS.

HAHAHHA YOU ARE AN IDIOT! Windjammer's post proves it all!!! LOL!

ok idiot, So you are saying everything said by western media experts are true... cos I got lot of fodder on that...
 
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The ONLY FACT is that the real facts and figures will never come out.
 
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If he is ex pakistani general of 10 corps or not? If not you are none other then a numb nut jerk...

Complete details about 1965, 1971 and 1999.

Pakistan politics and Army are way too different thing. You know that. That's why now Pakistani General Kiyani is saying to influence the politics if they can't find a solution. 80 billion loss in war, 100 billion in aviation, Karachi trouble-shoot lots are happening. Don't just post non-sense! Go and see yourself the data given by Indian Army. Stop watching non-sense Pak politicians. Those are done to hurt Pakistan as Pakistan is involved in so many wars!
 
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lolz. Indian propaganda has been exposed by their own citizens.

1. Coffin scandal

2. Giving out medals to phantom soldiers or soldiers that were still alive.


:lol:


Please have some shame.




LOL. 4000?

Indian media at it's best?

There was great bravery among our men holding out against laser guided bombs and still fighting tooth and nail devastating yours jawans with limited supplies and ammunition.



Salute to Pak Fauj.

Salute to Pak Fauj indeed, for all of the following:

1: Dis own it's own soldier by referring to them as kashmiri intruders

2: For retreating from the strongest peak position by soldiers climbing up

3: For impotently standing by and chickening out when their fellow brothers in arms were being burnt alive by IAF mirages bombing them day and night

4: For taking thier orders from pentagon....... as always

thanks
 
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Interesting,so thousands of Pakistani Soldiers were killed by Indian Army in Counter-attack.The Ratio of kill was atleast 10:1 that for every 1 Indian Soldier killed 10 Pakistani Soldiers were killed.



That's true,after all 300 Pakistani Soldiers were killed in one strike itself,the morale must have plummeted on the Pakistani side after that.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/208907-ex-cia-officer-iaf-strike-nlis-munto-dhalo-depot.html

That was just a shot in the dark by the same CIA, which is still looking for Saddam's WMD.
The target hit was most probably a supply depot.....any one will tell you, under battle conditions, you don't have several hundred men lingering around arms, ammo and petrol storage facilities. !!
Perhaps, you should pay more attention to folks a little closer to your home. !!

Tehelka - The People's Paper
 
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India want to win the war by trolling. They don't accept data of Indian Army, not even US, CIA or UN Data, let alone Pakistan Army. They are ready to accept Nawaj Sharif and Najam Sethi!!! The question is how good they can be than armies or spy agencies! The most funny joke is they are not even ready that Pakistan was requested by Bill Clinton to pull the army back and Mussarf wasn't given any further troops for the war. He had 5000 troops only to fight against 30000. Salute to that courage! The fact is if Pakistan had lost all battles, then India would have Islamabad annexed by now!!!!!!!The real truth is India had strategic loss in every battle it fought and somehow they are eroding and eroding!

Excellent point.

Its only Nawaz Sharif and his ilk who constantly exaggerate the losses suffered by Pakistan and not even the Indian Military, Foreign Observers agree with this stat.

Not only that, Pakistan had only 5,000 men with no air cover, no chance to support, provide logistic help against a heavily armed 30,000 Indian Force and even then it took then over 3 months to re-take the territory.
 
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India want to win the war by trolling. They don't accept data of Indian Army, not even US, CIA or UN Data, let alone Pakistan Army. They are ready to accept Nawaj Sharif and Najam Sethi!!! The question is how good they can be than armies or spy agencies! The most funny joke is they are not even ready that Pakistan was requested by Bill Clinton to pull the army back and Mussarf wasn't given any further troops for the war. He had 5000 troops only to fight against 30000. Salute to that courage! The fact is if Pakistan had lost all battles, then India would have Islamabad annexed by now!!!!!!!The real truth is India had strategic loss in every battle it fought and somehow they are eroding and eroding!

We annexed siachin , turtuk and partitioned pak in half . What can we do if the pak establishment sends their army to get a55 raped by IA again and again ? You know," Once an a$shole , always an as$hole !:pakistan:
 
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If Pakistan had lost all the battles, then Pakistan would've never challenged India.

Jokers!!!Najam Sathi or Altaf are not considered as Pakistani. After all, Najam was acting anti-Pakistan for quite a long time. Everyone wants power. What Nawaj or Najam said doesn't have value. Many times Nawaj said that he would give India decisive defeat if they kept on anti-Pakistan propaganda! Never take a Pakistani Politician's comment too much seriously! Today he said, tomorrow he will say he didn't. That is real truth. This is why, Bangladesh want some honesty in Pakistan if they really want to have a deeper relation with us.


Ya, we know how to defeat you! Want a war! We will give you within 10yrs. Believe me!

well you want war in 10 years???....thats unfair..India don't need to go wr with BD...all we need is to wait and watch...their own BDR will do mutiny again and kill all of their officers and politicians....lol....
 
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The ONLY FACT is that the real facts and figures will never come out.
The real data are booked in UN. It was one of the most Crystal clear war fought by Pak-India. Every International organization was involved in this war. Go watch your own Army data and tell them that!
 
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Coffin Scandal ^



Please stop making us on the rational end, from laughing.

How bout telling that to families of disowned soldiers, whose bodies were buried by IA with full ceremonies. Just unfortunate
 
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Excellent point.

Its only Nawaz Sharif and his ilk who constantly exaggerate the losses suffered by Pakistan and not even the Indian Military, Foreign Observers agree with this stat.

Not only that, Pakistan had only 5,000 men with no air cover, no chance to support, provide logistic help against a heavily armed 30,000 Indian Force and even then it took then over 3 months to re-take the territory.

Nawaz knew he got pissed and Musharraf was growing on popularity. Nawaz did it just to save his chair and even didn't provide with troops for the same reason. But the irony is he did lose the chair to same person,though it just took some time!
 
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Pakistan politics and Army are way too different thing. You know that. That's why now Pakistani General Kiyani is saying to influence the politics if they can't find a solution. 80 billion loss in war, 100 billion in aviation, Karachi trouble-shoot lots are happening. Don't just post non-sense! Go and see yourself the data given by Indian Army. Stop watching non-sense Pak politicians. Those are done to hurt Pakistan as Pakistan is involved in so many wars!

World have seen the data and facts provided by Indian Army and other neutral sources. Moreover, pak is cultivating her own harvest and we won't mind untill unless it affects us.

For BD and SL, they need to grow up many folds before threatening us BTW we are enjoying good relations with everyone..... nor I need to sought any certification from you.... Get a life!!!

Nawaz knew he got pissed and Musharraf was growing on popularity. Nawaz did it just to save his chair and even didn't provide with troops for the same reason. But the irony is he did lose the chair to same person,though it just took some time!

Military was free from any kind of accountability to Nawaaz(so that every politician)...
 
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Excellent point.

Its only Nawaz Sharif and his ilk who constantly exaggerate the losses suffered by Pakistan and not even the Indian Military, Foreign Observers agree with this stat.

Not only that, Pakistan had only 5,000 men with no air cover, no chance to support, provide logistic help against a heavily armed 30,000 Indian Force and even then it took then over 3 months to re-take the territory.

Doesn't that indicate gross misplanning by your brass which led to brutal butchering of men in PA uniform... That in any logical premise should have led to punishing such idotic generals, but in pakistan same general and his cronies were allowed to rule the country as president and important minister... how unfortunate..isn't it?
 
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