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Karachi: Zulfiqar Mirza's statement triggers another round of violence

No doubt ZM and ANP are bigoted but that is not a reason to advocate another groups of fools.. People of Karachi in general want peace...MQM is like being enforced on them in a form of "jagerdar". Jagerdaari is not only about land holding, it is a mere concept which can come in various forms. MQM enforces its jageerdari on Karachi by collective punishments of Karachites. Nobody, not atleast the educated and sane headed Mohajir / Urdu speaker / what ever you call them take either of the party seriously.

What MQM does is play the mind games like Saddam. Be extremely rewarding and extremely punishing at the same time..so subtly they are sending the message..Look we know we are the bad guys, but if you side with us there are rewards otherwise we will turn to our usual savagery. It amounts to holding the economic capital of Pakistan as virtual hostage. Karachi was establish by the British as port city, it is the Dubai of Pakistan. It is open for all to come trade and earn. One Political party will cannot be enforced on all residents.

I have a suggestion, Karachi should be made politically neutral zone. No political party shall operate in Karachi.


PPP had always been unpopular..it is the party of drunkard jagerdars who dont even have manners to talk. They have always come to power through treachery and arrogance. Hence should be called "Pakistan Partition Party". I want to see how these blind sindhi nationalists will survive without Karachi as a financial capital and all the Mohajir intellectual pool of talent which runs this city? These nationalist should be more concerned about their own areas and their sardars / waderas which are sucking the national wealth keeping masses in stone age even today.

The problem with MQM followers is that are blinded by the fat behind of their quaid. They think Karachi was some barren land which they helped turn into wonder oasis. Karachi was founded by the British 200 years before the partition of India. And MQM just wants to hold it as a hostage with false propaganda to control the financial nerve of Pakistan. It is not a patriotic party, but another thug, jagerdar wadera. This is exactly what is expressed by MQM mentality on issues of Karachi. They consider Karachi to be their backyard.

There are dozens of people who migrated to Pakistan on the news of migrants being settled into Karachi for the sake of mere economic benefits because India adopted socialism back then and posed a great hindrance to business communities engaged with middle east. These are peaceful business minded people and MQM cannot thrive to look for support into them so they choose to harass them with famous parchees.

Secondly, the migrants are not exclusively urdu speakers but came from countries as far as Afghanistan, Central Asia, Germany and even Poland. But MQM at large is composed of one single ethnic majority? WHY???

All of these migrants have merged in and have no problems what so ever with any ethinic majority of Pakistan while its MQM and only MQM which keeps reinventing the ethnic propaganda and cause riots.

To understand the politics of MQM, one has to study the mafia dons of UP and Bihar in India. Same tactics different ground. There was a time when these mafia bosses were highly despised and targeted. Today they are sitting in parliaments as elected members..

'Mafia dons' make it to Uttar Pradesh Assembly - Express India



So you are saying, as long as someone does not make bigoted / differing statements to MQM and its agenda, Karachi will remain a heaven. This is no different than the "wadera" mentality which MQM takes pride to oppose. Tolerating criticism is part of democratic values.

Respecting each other is also part of 'democratic values'. Criticism is one thing, but calling names is different. There are many things which are being said against MQM and they accept and reply. But when you will call migrants 'bhookay nangay' and that they were allowed to live in Karachi, is that justified? So it was natural that people came out for protest. Why dont they respect mandate of MQM in Karachi. Why do they keep calling them 'Mohajirs' despite of the fact that they have given up 'mohajir ideology' long back. MQM is blamed for being a party based on ethnicity. Although it was in Past, but what is wrong if it was based on ethnicity? Why do people keep hating urdu speakers? I am unable to understand.
 
what a funny speculation to kill innocent people in Karachi by MQM.

and if Altaf bhaya is so famous then why they are afraid of Afaq ?

I dont think that they are afraid Afaq. They are afraid that he is being used by PPP and ANP against them.
 
I dont think that they are afraid Afaq. They are afraid that he is being used by PPP and ANP against them.

how PPP and ANP will use him? and dont you think if he is freed according to law he will be having right to join any side . dont you think?

i feel altaf and his groupies are afraid that followers of Afaq will support him once he enters politics once again
 
how PPP and ANP will use him? and dont you think if he is freed according to law he will be having right to join any side . dont you think?

i feel altaf and his groupies are afraid that followers of Afaq will support him once he enters politics once again

Yes, it is his right to join whatever side.

Well the formation of Haqiqi itself damaged the Altaf side group. Afaq still supports the ideology of 'Mohajir' whereas Altaf side are supporters of 'Muttahida' ideology to target the entire Pakistan.
 
I thought I answered, anyways, everything is normal and as usual, like you have in other cities. It is just politicians who when start dirty games, ruins the peace of Karachi. We have people from every ethnic groups in our social circles, and do not carry hate for each other. Like I have pashtuns in my office, they are hard workers and doing their works normally. It is not like that if some ZM blabbers sh!t about someone so we stand up against our friends. In my neighbors pashtun / sindhi / urdu speakers etc. lives, and they live their life normal and do not hate each others.

glad to hear that, it means its more a political persuasion that creates the division among the ethnic groups rather than anything else...

it means I can come to Karachi without bearing any fear :)
 
Bcaz you people are sitting in Lahore and Rawalpindi but getting benefits of the revenue that is being generated from Karachi. So dear these ANP / PPP people try to get control of the Karachi city wihtout the will of Karachiites, to earn directly from the sources.

can you justify your claim with some statistics ? maybe it from Bhutto era's NFC award...


P.S Z.A Bhutto' NFC award I mean
 
Hehe Zulfiqar Kutt@ has just fcked everything for himself. Now get ready for a Karachi province. And Lets get ready to see Sindh being more poor then Balochistan. After Karachi is it's own province the reality of Sindh will come out.

And now lets analyse Zulfi's statement against the Urdu Speakers. It's strange that the people who were slaves for British are now calling urdu speakers bhookay nangay. These bhookay nangay sacrificed everything to come to Pakistan as they were invited here. After facing riots and killings of over a thousand people did Zulfi expect these Urdu Speakers to come with gold and a billion rupees? All we brought here was education. Strange that these bhookay nangays are the same people generating 30% of the GDP for Pakistan. Same bhookay nangays that have given people fleeing from taliban in FATA a place in Karachi, same bhookay nangays have also given countless Sindhis from Interior Sindh who escaped the floods and poverty a place here in Karachi.
Zulfi thinks his people own this land. Now lets clarify that Sindhi Hindus are the true owners of Sindh. His people were servants for these big Sindhi Hindus. His grandmother or mother was probably mortgaged to a Sindhi Hindu as that was the norm back in the days.
Most Urdu Speakers came to Karachi, Karachi was nothing but a little fishing town in 1947. Now its these same bhookay nangays that made it into one of the biggest financial hub of not only Pakistan but the world.

Karachi was the first capital of Pakistan and also the capital of province sind too. It is the only major port that existed in Pakistan in those days and hence further developed. (even gwadar was part of oman, that was later bought from oman)

if there were no mohajirs in Karachi, even then Karachi would have been a business hub of Pakistan. so it is wrong to attribute it only to Muhajirs. It belongs to all Pakistanis and Particularly to the Sindhis as it is their provincial capital.

Regarding ZM and MQM, both are same. one barked other bited. but ZM is not responsible for violence. it is MQM that do not know the ethics of politics and resorted to voilence that killed several people.
 
glad to hear that, it means its more a political persuasion that creates the division among the ethnic groups rather than anything else...

it means I can come to Karachi without bearing any fear :)

Yes, for sure, there are full trains/buses/planes are coming to Karachi without any fear. You are most welcome, whenever you have plans to come here, dont forget to meet me. :), I ll send you my number when you have plans to come here.
 
Respecting each other is also part of 'democratic values'. Criticism is one thing, but calling names is different. There are many things which are being said against MQM and they accept and reply. But when you will call migrants 'bhookay nangay' and that they were allowed to live in Karachi, is that justified? So it was natural that people came out for protest. Why dont they respect mandate of MQM in Karachi. Why do they keep calling them 'Mohajirs' despite of the fact that they have given up 'mohajir ideology' long back. MQM is blamed for being a party based on ethnicity. Although it was in Past, but what is wrong if it was based on ethnicity? Why do people keep hating urdu speakers? I am unable to understand.

No one is against Urdu Speakers. But the prolem of lawlessness in Karahci is due to MQM illegal activities.

one of my friend after finishing his studies ran two computer training institue but later he had to close both. when he opened his first institute, MQM deputed two guards (its workers) at his institute responsible for security of the institute and demanded a payment of Rs. 16000.00 per month to them. he refused to pay, then the problem started. once his computers got stolen, after few days someone broke all the windows of the institute at night, lastly he received warning from MQM to pay the monthly grant and accept guards. He didn't succum to MQM threat and moved his institute to another area. First week, he was told to pay Rs. 16000.00 and they gave him the payment receipt. so He paid that money. MQM told him that it will fully protect his institute and will be responsible even for a single lost pencil from the institute. he thanked MQM and later closed his institue and went abroad. This money taking by MQM is confirmed by several people.

Now if ZM shout that MQM is taking bhatta, then he is right and MQM try to justify its illegal activities in the name of welfare and people support.

I have no personal enimity against MQM but i know most of the element of the MQM is too lowly, cheap and MQM officially support illegal activities. jus a few days back against ZM statement they bited everyone. So If you do not go with MQM you are in trouble and impossible for you to live in their controlled areas. It claims to be loyal to Pakistan but tremples the legal obligations and do not respect the laws of the country where it sees its own benefit.
 
one appology & karachi goes quiet and peaceful!!!! clearly SHOWS MQM is the party behind all the violence!!
 
No one is against Urdu Speakers. But the prolem of lawlessness in Karahci is due to MQM illegal activities.

one of my friend after finishing his studies ran two computer training institue but later he had to close both. when he opened his first institute, MQM deputed two guards (its workers) at his institute responsible for security of the institute and demanded a payment of Rs. 16000.00 per month to them. he refused to pay, then the problem started. once his computers got stolen, after few days someone broke all the windows of the institute at night, lastly he received warning from MQM to pay the monthly grant and accept guards. He didn't succum to MQM threat and moved his institute to another area. First week, he was told to pay Rs. 16000.00 and they gave him the payment receipt. so He paid that money. MQM told him that it will fully protect his institute and will be responsible even for a single lost pencil from the institute. he thanked MQM and later closed his institue and went abroad. This money taking by MQM is confirmed by several people.

Now if ZM shout that MQM is taking bhatta, then he is right and MQM try to justify its illegal activities in the name of welfare and people support.

I have no personal enimity against MQM but i know most of the element of the MQM is too lowly, cheap and MQM officially support illegal activities. jus a few days back against ZM statement they bited everyone. So If you do not go with MQM you are in trouble and impossible for you to live in their controlled areas. It claims to be loyal to Pakistan but tremples the legal obligations and do not respect the laws of the country where it sees its own benefit.

No one is saint here in Karachi. similar activities are being carried out by every party in different areas. when these parties enter into the areas of each other, resultant violence / target killings are witnessed. So why to blame the MQM alone?

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one appology & karachi goes quiet and peaceful!!!! clearly SHOWS MQM is the party behind all the violence!!

Dont you consider the discipline, just one call from bhai requesting people to calm down, peace prevailed....:P
 
No one is saint here in Karachi. similar activities are being carried out by every party in different areas. when these parties enter into the areas of each other, resultant violence / target killings are witnessed. So why to blame the MQM alone?

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Dont you consider the discipline, just one call from bhai requesting people to calm down, peace prevailed....:P

finally you agree that MQM does such activites...hence not masoom and mazloom! JUST LIKE any other party MQM is a terrorist but the biggest example of dashitgardi is this one phone from bhai and khamoshi and amaan!
 
Yes, for sure, there are full trains/buses/planes are coming to Karachi without any fear. You are most welcome, whenever you have plans to come here, dont forget to meet me. :), I ll send you my number when you have plans to come here.

I was expecting this hospitality :) thanks alot bro, I will be in touch, whenever...
 
finally you agree that MQM does such activites...hence not masoom and mazloom! JUST LIKE any other party MQM is a terrorist but the biggest example of dashitgardi is this one phone from bhai and khamoshi and amaan!

Btw....why do you insisting on our 'agreements'. NO ONE is saint here as I have been saying all the times.
 
glad to hear that, it means its more a political persuasion that creates the division among the ethnic groups rather than anything else...

it means I can come to Karachi without bearing any fear :)

What fear???? We all are ONE PAKISTANIS, Karachi is for every Pakistani except looters, waderas, feudals, gangsters etc. Demand for new provence does'nt mean we hate Pakistan but it means we want to save our part from thugs & feudals & develop & prosper it. New provence won't be closed for any one, nor any one will be thrown out from living there.
 

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