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Sankara is the smartha brahmins' icon, who do not even constitute 2 % of Tamil pop. Sankara supported and promoted the oppressive Brahmanical varnashrama (caste) system.

Hindutva lie, to derive Tamil and uphold Sanskrit supremacy. No Tamil scholar will buy the Hindutva sponsored propaganda

Tolkappiyam is not dependent on Sanskrit sources: Tamil scholar

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...rit-sources-Tamil-scholar/article16271091.ece

how can there be any Buddhist sites left in Tamilnadu, when the Brahmins either destroyed or converted Buddhist religious sites into temples. Sankara a strong opponent of Buddhism played a major role in wiping out Buddhism from Tamilnadu

Only in Tamilnadu , Dalits have the power to whack Brahmins/Upper caste Hindus and publicly deface Hindu supremacist murals

http://www.bestindiatours.com/buddhist/kanchipuram.html

Bodhi Dharma and Zen Buddhism

Kanchipuram was one of the centers where the movement of Mahayana Buddhism was developed. It is known that there was very frequent exchange of Buddhist scholars with the Nalanda University of North India in those times. Unfortunately, many of the Buddhist remains of this great city have been destroyed by the ravages of time and by the opponents of Buddhism

http://instituteofasianstudies.com/bodhi_dharma_centre.html

Merry Christmas

Debating with a xtian fanatic and hater like you is similar to debating with a pakistani.

YOu can show mountain of evidence and they will continue to say there is no dawood in pakistan and there is no terrorism.

Same way you will continue to parrot your desperate propaganda. But here are the facts,

1. Shankaracharya was a Sanyasi and had no Varna. He was a Brahmin, but renounced it when he became a sanyasi.

2. Separate graveyards for dalit christians is a reality in Tamil Nadu. LOL at your pathetic tamil casteist mentality. Dalits have their own church.

dalit-burial1.jpg


3. No amount of "scholarship" from Non Tamils , especially European christians can twist the reality that the very Preface to Tholkappiam says "aindiram nirainda Tolkappiyam" i.e Tolkappiyam consists of Indira grammar".

4. Tolkappiar clearly says that his work is already based on existing books of grammar :cheesy:

5. Tolkappiar says his work is done in the Pandiyan kingdom which is named after the Pandava's from the Mahabharata. (Same way Madurai is named after "Mathura" in the north)

6. Tholkappiar calls his verses as "Sutras" :cheesy: .... same as Sanskrit.

7. Patanjali classified compounds (samasas) into four kinds according to the place where their sense becomes full and significant, viz., Purva padartha pradhanah, Uttara padartha pradhanah ,Anya Padartha pradhanah and Ubhaya Padartha pradhanah. This classification was adopted by Tolkappiyar and the terms are literally translated in his grammar.


I am sure you will come up with some more christian propaganda, but don't bother.

I have no more interest in educating you. I prefer you as the uneducated clown you are.
 
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Nice . this will further push the people towards hindu nationalist governments , atleast the people of that area . Keep it up
 
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Why not ?

They are murals that depict the social life and history of India. I am glad they are a part of the Train Station.

The vandals will be hunted down and punished for this act.

Go F yourself..... No RSS ideology will be allowed in TN.... Keep it with your la la north
 
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I am seeking your character certificate.

Stick to your jihad and leave my business to me.



The station itself is in the world famous Chidambaram i.e. Chidambaram Temple complex.

Its funny how they are objecting to Hindu culture in one of the centers of Hinduism. :lol:

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Nope. Islam is part of arabic culture.

Its part of the culture of invasion in India. Its the very opposite of tamil culture.

hinduism is part of alien religion every thing you have related to some planet you were not born from that dirt some how spread like a disease to this land you dont own nothing.
 
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Same way you will continue to parrot your desperate propaganda. But here are the facts,

1. Shankaracharya was a Sanyasi and had no Varna. He was a Brahmin, but renounced it when he became a sanyasi.

2. Separate graveyards for dalit christians is a reality in Tamil Nadu. LOL at your pathetic tamil casteist mentality. Dalits have their own church.

dalit-burial1.jpg

do you have any clue about varnashrama dharma (i.e caste system) ?

there are 4 varnas -social division by occupation/caste/color
1) brahmana - the highest in the hierarchy
2) kshatriya
3) vaisya
4) sudra
and dalits the untouchable i.e out caste

the 4 ashrams 9stages in life) i.e
1) brahmacarya (student)
2) grahasta (householder)
3) vanaprastha (retiree)
4) sanyasa ( renunciation)

1,2,3 applies to kshatriyas (optional)
1,2,3,4 only applicable to brahmin caste
sudras are not entitled to education

Sankara was born into the brahmin caste. Niether he nor the others acharyas criticised the
racist Manava Dharma Sastra (Laws of Manu- caste system) but upheld it as a supplementary text to the veda. His mutts still sustains the racist caste system. So far is there any non brahmin made the pontiff of the Sankara mutt (in Kanchipuram ) ?

Sankara did not bring any reformation in the system but brought Tamil religion under brahmanical control by devising his shanmata

Manudharma
ekameva tu śūdrasya prabhuḥ karma samādiśat |
eteṣāmeva varṇānāṃ śuśrūṣāmanasūyayā || 91 ||


For the Śūdra the Lord ordained only one function: the ungrudging service of the said castes. (91)

Sankara, Ramanuja and Madhva, the founders of our religio-philosophical systems, proclaim that our dharmasastras are in accord with the Vedas.

http://www.kamakoti.org/misc/hindudharma.html/15/1/hindu/Dharmasastra

3. No amount of "scholarship" from Non Tamils , especially European christians can twist the reality that the very Preface to Tholkappiam says "aindiram nirainda Tolkappiyam" i.e Tolkappiyam consists of Indira grammar".

4. Tolkappiar clearly says that his work is already based on existing books of grammar :cheesy:

5. Tolkappiar says his work is done in the Pandiyan kingdom which is named after the Pandava's from the Mahabharata. (Same way Madurai is named after "Mathura" in the north)

6. Tholkappiar calls his verses as "Sutras" :cheesy: .... same as Sanskrit.

7. Patanjali classified compounds (samasas) into four kinds according to the place where their sense becomes full and significant, viz., Purva padartha pradhanah, Uttara padartha pradhanah ,Anya Padartha pradhanah and Ubhaya Padartha pradhanah. This classification was adopted by Tolkappiyar and the terms are literally translated in his grammar.

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what your beef with western Tamil scholars that you need to paint them as European Christian ? European Christian are far more trustworthy and professional compared Indian Hindus whose ulterior motive is to deride Tamil language. Name one non Tamil Indian Tamil scholar ?

"aindiram nirainda" means 'comprising Aindra -5 parts' not your Hindutva concoction - Indra grammar .

ainthu (5) + thiram (parts ?!)

1) eluththu - letter
2) sol - word
3) porul - meaning (lifestyle, as in agap porul, purap porul)
4) yaappu - kattu - build (how to join words together, to make it easy to rhyme / sing / remember)
5) ani - beauty (?!)

V4vijayakumar (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

using your flawed logic , I too can claim Indira is derived from Tamil ai (five) + thiran (powers) aInthiran

Mahabharata's (Purana) Pandava is just a fancy folk tale, perhaps adapted from Tamil historic sources as Brahmins are well know plagiarizers and looters of Tamil history through their fabricated puranas and ithihasa works

on a similar note, I can claim Kauravas refers to Kuravas of Tamilnadu/Kerala

Etymology

The word Pandya is derived from the Tamil word "Pandu" meaning very old. Another theory is that the word "Pandya" is derived from the Tamil word "Pandi" meaning bull. Ancient Tamils, considered the bull as a sign of masculinity and valor. The earliest Pandyans, probably used the bull as its emblem.[10][11]

Another theory suggests that in Sangam Tamil lexicon the word Pandya means old country in contrast with Chola meaning new country, Chera meaning hill country and Pallava meaning branch in Sanskrit. The Chera, Chola and Pandyaare the traditional Tamil siblings and together with the Pallavas are the major Kings that ruled ancient Tamilakam.

Historians have used several sources to identify the origins of the early Pandyan dynasty with the pre-Christian Era and also to piece together the names of the Pandyan kings. Pandyas were the longest ruling dynasty of Indian history.[12]Unfortunately, the exact genealogy of these kings has not been authoritatively established yet.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Pandyas.html

Mathura vs Madurai , Pandava vs Pandya proves Tamils were once ruling/prevalent through out the sub continent
 
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do you have any clue about varnashrama dharma (i.e caste system) ?

there are 4 varnas -social division by occupation/caste/color
1) brahmana - the highest in the hierarchy
2) kshatriya
3) vaisya
4) sudra
and dalits the untouchable i.e out caste

the 4 ashrams 9stages in life) i.e
1) brahmacarya (student)
2) grahasta (householder)
3) vanaprastha (retiree)
4) sanyasa ( renunciation)

1,2,3 applies to kshatriyas (optional)
1,2,3,4 only applicable to brahmin caste
sudras are not entitled to education

Sankara was born into the brahmin caste. Niether he nor the other cricise the
racist Manava Dharma Sastra (Laws of Manu- caste system) but upheld it as a supplementary text to the veda. His mutts still sustains the racist caste system . So far is there any non brahmin made the pontiff of the Sankara mutt (in Kanchipuram ) ?

Sankara did not bring any reformation in the system but brought Tamil religion under brahmanical control by devising his shanmata

Manudharma
ekameva tu śūdrasya prabhuḥ karma samādiśat |
eteṣāmeva varṇānāṃ śuśrūṣāmanasūyayā || 91 ||


For the Śūdra the Lord ordained only one function: the ungrudging service of the said castes. (91)

http://www.kamakoti.org/misc/hindudharma.html/15/1/hindu/Dharmasastra

what your beef with western Tamil scholars that you need to paint them as European Christian ? European Christian are far more trustworthy and professional compared Indian Hindus whose ulterior motive is to deride Tamil language. Name one non Tamil Indian Tamil scholar ?

"aindiram nirainda" means 'comprising Aindra -5 parts' not your Hindutva concoction - Indra grammar .

ainthu (5) + thiram (parts ?!)

1) eluththu - letter
2) sol - word
3) porul - meaning (lifestyle, as in agap porul, purap porul)
4) yaappu - kattu - build (how to join words together, to make it easy to rhyme / sing / remember)
5) ani - beauty (?!)

V4vijayakumar (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

using your flawed logic , I too can claim Indira is derived from Tamil ai (five) + thiran (powers) aInthiran

Mahabharata's (Purana) Pandava is just a fancy folk tale, perhaps adapted from Tamil historic sources as Brahmins are well know plagiarizers and looters of Tamil history through their fabricated puranas and ithihasa works

on a similar note, I can claim Kauravas refers to Kuravas of Tamilnadu/Kerala

Etymology

The word Pandya is derived from the Tamil word "Pandu" meaning very old. Another theory is that the word "Pandya" is derived from the Tamil word "Pandi" meaning bull. Ancient Tamils, considered the bull as a sign of masculinity and valor. The earliest Pandyans, probably used the bull as its emblem.[10][11]

Another theory suggests that in Sangam Tamil lexicon the word Pandya means old country in contrast with Chola meaning new country, Chera meaning hill country and Pallava meaning branch in Sanskrit. The Chera, Chola and Pandyaare the traditional Tamil siblings and together with the Pallavas are the major Kings that ruled ancient Tamilakam.

Historians have used several sources to identify the origins of the early Pandyan dynasty with the pre-Christian Era and also to piece together the names of the Pandyan kings. Pandyas were the longest ruling dynasty of Indian history.[12]Unfortunately, the exact genealogy of these kings has not been authoritatively established yet.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Pandyas.html

Mathura vs Madurai , Pandava vs Pandya proves Tamils were once ruling/prevalent through out the sub continent

1. About Aindra Vyakarana, read and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aindra_School_of_Grammar


2. Varana means choice as explained earlier. Nothing "racist" about choice. Its the OPPOSITE of racist.

3. Pandi means PIG, not bull. Its a racial slur meaning "dirty tamil", especially in kerala and Karnataka.

4. Oldest record of the Pandiyan kingdome is by Megasthenes in his book Indika (300 BC) and he says the queen of the Pandiyan is the daughter of Hari-Krishna (Heracles). Hence the name of their city, Mathura i.e. Madurai.

5. I only post this for the benefit of other views, not to educate you anymore. Do not bother to reply.
 
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This is the Preface of the Tholkappiam book on Tamil Grammar,

சிறப்புப்பாயிரம் வட
வேங்கடம் தென் குமரி ஆயிடைத்
தமிழ் கூறும் நல் உலகத்து
வழக்கும் செய்யுளும் ஆயிரு முதலின்
எழுத்தும் சொல்லும் பொருளும் நாடிச்
செந்தமிழ் இயற்கை சிவணிய நிலத்தொடு
முந்து நூல் கண்டு முறைப்பட எண்ணிப்
புலம் தொகுத்தோனே போக்கு அறு பனுவல்
நிலம் தரு திருவின் பாண்டியன் அவையத்து
அறம் கரை நாவின் நான்மறை முற்றிய‌
அதங்கோட்டு ஆசாற்கு அரில் தபத் தெரிந்து
மயங்கா மரபின் எழுத்து முறை காட்டி
மல்கு நீர் வரைப்பின் ஐந்திரம் நிறைந்த‌
தொல்காப்பியன் எனத் தன் பெயர் தோற்றிப்
பல் புகழ் நிறுத்த படிமையோனே


Translation :

Tamil speaking land extends from Venkatam (Tirupathi) in the north to Kumari ocean (Kanyakumari) in the south,
Written and spoken tamil language is the source of this work,
He extends his study on phonetic letters, word syntax and all the matter it reveals thereby,
He has studied well the culture of the people's language and his predecessors conventions and has written this work on Linguistic knowledge.
This book has been published in the court of Nilantharu Thiruvin Nediyon.
His teacher is Atankoott Aashaan, who is a man of well balanced virtuous character.
He is well versed in the four Vedas :cheesy: and during writing this book some of the doubts of his teacher was cleard,
This work is unambiguous and the author of this work is well versed in "Aindiram".



This should put to rest any and all speculation about the sanskrit and vedic origins of Tamil grammar.
 
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Why not ?

They are murals that depict the social life and history of India. I am glad they are a part of the Train Station.

The vandals will be hunted down and punished for this act.

Kanchipuram rail station is not in India, it is in India-occupied Tamil Nadu
 
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1. About Aindra Vyakarana, read and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aindra_School_of_Grammar


2. Varana means choice as explained earlier. Nothing "racist" about choice. Its the OPPOSITE of racist.
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from your wiki source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aindra_School_of_Grammar

Burnell's search for the Aindra school took him to Southern India where he came across the Tamil grammatical work Tolkappiyam. A preface of this work, written during the twelfth century CE by Ilampuranar describes the work as aindiram nirainda Tolkappiyam ('comprising Aindra'). This, Burnell posits is an allusion to the pre-Pāṇinian Aindra school of grammar.

Burnell being an European Christian doesn't disqualify him ? reconcile it with your earlier remark
3. No amount of "scholarship" from Non Tamils , especially European christians can twist the reality that the very Preface to Tholkappiam says "aindiram nirainda Tolkappiyam" i.e Tolkappiyam consists of Indira grammar".

3. Pandi means PIG, not bull. Its a racial slur meaning "dirty tamil", especially in kerala and Karnataka.

4. Oldest record of the Pandiyan kingdome is by Megasthenes in his book Indika (300 BC) and he says the queen of the Pandiyan is the daughter of Hari-Krishna (Heracles). Hence the name of their city, Mathura i.e. Madurai.

5. I only post this for the benefit of other views, not to educate you anymore. Do not bother to reply

Pig in Tamil is பன்றி (panri) not pandi , if pig is derogatory, why Hindus worship a pig (varaha) as god ? So Mallu/Kanndiga Hindus worship dirty Tamil pig ?

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If its too hot to deal, get out of this thread and stop responding to my post. I have the right to refute your nonsense
 
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then will you place islamic symbols as well?

Don't waste your time with him. He is hell bent on destroying our social fabric. I totally agree that religious symbols should not be displayed by government buildings.
 
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I can’t tell where there sweater ends and they begin.
 
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Aren't Tamil Hindus too.
I thought they were Hindus too, just a bit more uglier then the rest of the Indians and make super stupid films that do very good businesses....
 
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