Just see Wahhabi religious movement spreading in China ,What do u think ?！

[Sanchez]

Islam has existed in China for over a thousand years. Half of China's Muslim population are converted Han people. China is one of the most tolerant countries for religions in the world.

Empty religious threats won't do anyone good.

 

[KingMamba]

It is China's internal affairs. We do not give a damn what you think.You need understand that the relationship between China and any muslim countries, including pakistan, has absolutely nothing to do with so-called islam religion. Your allah means NOTHING to Chinese in the past, now and in the future.

If you want to keep friendship, take your hands off how China deals with her own muslim problems. How does China do it? It is not your concern.

Otherwise, What China can only do is to tell you: get the fxxk off.

I think Allah means something to the estimated 22-100 Million Muslims in China.

The kids too?

I see kids running around like that over here as well but not many. Most parents would not make their young children dress like that.

 

[Falcon29]

Everybody is Wahabi nowadays?

You know that term was attributed to some Muslims by outsiders. Good for the Chinese people who embrace Islam. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Indos]

The Muslim Who Was China’s Greatest Explorer – Zheng He

When people think of great explorers, they think of the usual names: Marco Polo, Ibn Battuta, Evliya Çelebi, Christopher Columbus, etc. But not many know of one of the most interesting and influential of all time. In China, he is well known, although not always recognized or glorified. He is Zheng He, the Muslim who became China’s greatest admiral, explorer, and diplomat.


Origins
Zheng He was born in 1371 in the southern China region of Yunnan to a Hui (a Muslim Chinese ethnic group) family. His birth name was Ma He. In China, the family name is said first, followed by the given name. “Ma” is known in China as short for “Muhammad”, indicating Zheng He’s Muslim heritage. Both his father and his grandfather were able to travel to Makkah and complete the Hajj, so Zheng He came from a practicing Muslim family.

At a young age, his town was raided by the Ming Dynasty’s army. He was captured and transported to the capital, Nanjing, where he served in the imperial household. Despite the oppressive and difficult circumstances he was in, Zheng He actually befriended one of the princes, Zhu Di, and when he became the emperor, Zheng He rose to the highest positions in government. At this time, he was given the honorific title “Zheng” and was known as Zheng He.

Expeditions
In 1405, when emperor Zhu Di decided to send out a giant fleet of ships to explore and trade with the rest of the world, he chose Zheng He to lead the expedition. This expedition was massive. In all, almost 30,000 sailors were in each voyage, with Zheng He commanding all of them. Between 1405 and 1433, Zheng He led 7 expeditions that sailed to present day Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Iran, Oman, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Kenya, and many other countries. It is probable that during one of his journeys, Zheng He was even able to go to Makkah to complete the Hajj.


A map showing the routes taken by Zheng He on his 7 expeditions in the 1400s

Zheng He was not the only Muslim on these expeditions. Many of his advisors and were also Chinese Muslims, such as Ma Huan, a translator who spoke Arabic and was able to converse with the Muslim peoples they encountered on their journeys. He wrote an account of his journeys, titled the Ying-yai Sheng-lan, which is an important source today for understanding 15th century societies around the Indian Ocean.

Seeing these expeditions must have been an event that people did not easily forget. The ships Zheng He commanded were up to 400 feet long, many times the size of Columbus’s ships that sailed across the Atlantic. For hundreds of years, people thought that the giant proportions of these ships were exaggerations. However, archaeological evidence from the shipyards where they were built in the Yangtze River prove that these ships were in fact even larger than modern football pitches.

Everywhere they sailed, they commanded the respect (and sometimes fear) of the local people, who offered tributes to the Chinese emperor. Because of this tribute and trade with all the peoples they encountered, Zheng He would sail back to China with exotic goods such as ivory, camels, gold, and even a giraffe from Africa. The expeditions sent one message to the world: China is an economic and political superpower.

Spreading Islam
Economics and politics were not the only effects of this great fleet that was commanded by Zheng He. He and his Muslim advisors regularly promoted Islam wherever they traveled. In the Indonesian islands of Java, Sumatra, Borneo and others, Zheng He found small communities of Muslims already there. Islam had started to spread in Southeast Asia a few hundred years before through trade from Arabia and India. Zheng He actively supported the continued growth of Islam in these areas.


A replica in Dubai that compares the size of Zheng He’s ships with those of Columbus

Zheng He established Chinese Muslim communities in Palembang, and along Java, the Malay Peninsula, and the Philippines. These communities preached Islam to the local people and were very important to the spread of Islam in the area. The fleet built masjids and provided other social services the local Muslim community would need.

Even after the death of Zheng He in 1433, other Chinese Muslims continued his work in Southeast Asia, spreading Islam. Chinese Muslim traders in Southeast Asia were encouraged to intermarry and assimilate with the local people on the islands and Malay Peninsula. This brought more people to Islam in Southeast Asia, as well as strengthened and diversified the growing Muslim community.

Legacy
As an admiral, diplomat, soldier, and trader, Zheng He is a giant of Chinese and Muslim history. He is seen as one of the greatest figured in the spread of Islam in Southeast Asia. Unfortunately, after his death, the Chinese government changed its philosophy to a more Confucian one which did not support such expeditions like Zheng He’s. As a result, his accomplishments and contributions were mostly forgotten or overlooked for hundreds of years in China.

His legacy in Southeast Asia, however is quite different. Numerous masjids in the region are named after him to commemorate his contributions. Islam spread in Southeast Asia through many forms, including trade, travelling preachers, and immigration. Admiral Zheng He was also a major part of its spread in that region. Today, Indonesia has the largest Muslim population of any nation in the world, and much of that could be attributed to the activities of Zheng He in the region.

Sources

Aqsha, D. (2010, July 13). Zheng he and islam in southeast asia. The Brunei Times. Retrieved from Zheng He and Islam in Southeast Asia | The Brunei Times

Ignatius, A. (2001, August 20). The asian voyage: In the wake of the admiral read more. Time Magazine, Retrieved from

The Muslim Who Was China’s Greatest Explorer – Zheng He | Lost Islamic History

Zheng He - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SALMAN F]

China shouldn't give theses animals any chance they should level them to the ground

 

[ephone]

We have at least 1.4 billion.

Whatever it is, it is below the law. Anything against the law, it is nothing.

I think Allah means something to the estimated 22-100 Million Muslims in China.



I see kids running around like that over here as well but not many. Most parents would not make their young children dress like that.

We have already started the crackdown. So you will see results soon.

This wahabi cancer has to be destroyed before it reaches the heart of PRC. Strictly restrict the Pakis and Arabs coming in here. There is a university near where I stay .In about 3 years the no of **** students have multiplied by 100 folds with a rough estimate of about 250 **** students studying at the moment and majority of them preferring those wahabi kind of clothes and I would say are ultra religious .I am not even living in a very big city like Beijing or Shanghai.

Every Friday I see them standing on the road next to a small mosque and trying to spread their poisonous beliefs to the normal passers by. I am just surprised how the f**k are the authorities tolerating this.

sharia law in China?

My motherland will not tolerate filthy stuff like that.

"Rights...??"" like what..Implementing Sharia law in China just like the majority of Muzzies are demanding that in England..

 

[KingMamba]

Pakistani brothers should know that if US is biggest enemy of Islam in the west. The biggest enemy of islam in the east is China. Be careful with allying with them. You know how Chinese treat Muslim minorities. Do you think it will matter for them whether you are Pakistani or Uighur? They are dangerous and we need common front against them. Pakistan should ally with Japan.

Chinese history shows they have always been open to people of all religions, if anything Russians take the title for haters of the east.

Your problem with Chinese is based on race, the Uighurs are turkic and so you support them over Chinese who are not. Calling Chinese people stretched faces in this thread shows as much. Not to mention other Chinese Muslims like Huis do not compain of discrimination. Who are you trying to fool? You are not even religious and most of you turks do not believe in Muslim unity but since such unity would benefit you here you are running your mouth. Spare us, you think Pakistan gives a shit about what religion the people in charge in Beijing adhere to? Not to mention the Uighur cause has never been a religious cause hence the near non existent support for them in non Turkic countries. Last estimated there were a few hundred ETIM cadres hiding in Pakistan, with this new op Pakistani Military is launching all will either be slaughtered or captured. Good riddance.

 

[illusion8]

Chinese history shows they have always been open to people of all religions, if anything Russians take the title for haters of the east.

Your problem with Chinese is based on race, the Uighurs are turkic and so you support them over Chinese who are not. Calling Chinese people stretched faces in this thread shows as much. Not to mention other Chinese Muslims like Huis do not compain of discrimination. Who are you trying to fool? You are not even religious and most of you turks do not believe in Muslim unity but since such unity would benefit you here you are running your mouth. Spare us, you think Pakistan gives a shit about what religion the people in charge in Beijing adhere to? Not to mention the Uighur cause has never been a religious cause hence the near non existent support for them in non Turkic countries. Last estimated there were a few hundred ETIM cadres hiding in Pakistan, with this new op Pakistani Military is launching all will either be slaughtered or captured. Good riddance.

Facts on the ground and no ill will intended towards the higher than mountains, wider than a ...etc brotherly love - China is the second largest economy in the world, please tell me how many muslims (or for that matter anyone else -including blacks / hispanics / central asians etc) are free to travel to China and earn their bread and earn benefit from the fastest growing economy in the world?. Will muslims be free to open mosques in all the main cities of china / preach wahabbism or any other cult / be free to wear hijab or muslim traditional dress and roam about freely anywhere in china?

try to preach your religion and try to convert a bunch of han chinese to islam with islamic literature and speech and be ready to be thrown out of china.

 

[KingMamba]

Facts on the ground and no ill will intended towards the higher than mountains, wider than a ...etc brotherly love - China is the second largest economy in the world, please tell me how many muslims (or for that matter anyone else -including blacks / hispanics / central asians etc) are free to travel to China and earn their bread and earn benefit from the fastest growing economy in the world. Will muslims be free to open mosques in all the main cities of china / preach wahabbism or any other cult / be free to wear hijab or muslim traditional dress and roam about freely anywhere in china?

They are already in China and China does not just restrict Muslim immigration, it restricts immigration from everyone everywhere. Even westerners cannot get Chinese citizenship. Btw most of the people you mentioned would be low income workers and Chinese have plenty of their own people to fulfill that role. There are mosques littered all over China. Btw I have a uncle in Beijing who is living quite comfortably.

 

[illusion8]

They are already in China and China does not just restrict Muslim immigration, it restricts immigration from everyone everywhere. Even westerners cannot get Chinese citizenship. Btw most of the people you mentioned would be low income workers and Chinese have plenty of their own people to fulfill that role. There are mosques littered all over China. Btw I have a uncle in Beijing who is living quite comfortably.

And, chinese are fighting for their right to emigrate to any part of the world and can be found in practically all countries ,

They do share a special apprehension for blacks and muslims though - the trouble makers.


They dont mind the whites, in fact they employ whites as an advantage to reach out to western markets.

 

[Thirdfront]

The Muslim Who Was China’s Greatest Explorer – Zheng He

When people think of great explorers, they think of the usual names: Marco Polo, Ibn Battuta, Evliya Çelebi, Christopher Columbus, etc. But not many know of one of the most interesting and influential of all time. In China, he is well known, although not always recognized or glorified. He is Zheng He, the Muslim who became China’s greatest admiral, explorer, and diplomat.


Origins
Zheng He was born in 1371 in the southern China region of Yunnan to a Hui (a Muslim Chinese ethnic group) family. His birth name was Ma He. In China, the family name is said first, followed by the given name. “Ma” is known in China as short for “Muhammad”, indicating Zheng He’s Muslim heritage. Both his father and his grandfather were able to travel to Makkah and complete the Hajj, so Zheng He came from a practicing Muslim family.

At a young age, his town was raided by the Ming Dynasty’s army. He was captured and transported to the capital, Nanjing, where he served in the imperial household. Despite the oppressive and difficult circumstances he was in, Zheng He actually befriended one of the princes, Zhu Di, and when he became the emperor, Zheng He rose to the highest positions in government. At this time, he was given the honorific title “Zheng” and was known as Zheng He.

Expeditions
In 1405, when emperor Zhu Di decided to send out a giant fleet of ships to explore and trade with the rest of the world, he chose Zheng He to lead the expedition. This expedition was massive. In all, almost 30,000 sailors were in each voyage, with Zheng He commanding all of them. Between 1405 and 1433, Zheng He led 7 expeditions that sailed to present day Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Iran, Oman, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Kenya, and many other countries. It is probable that during one of his journeys, Zheng He was even able to go to Makkah to complete the Hajj.


A map showing the routes taken by Zheng He on his 7 expeditions in the 1400s

Zheng He was not the only Muslim on these expeditions. Many of his advisors and were also Chinese Muslims, such as Ma Huan, a translator who spoke Arabic and was able to converse with the Muslim peoples they encountered on their journeys. He wrote an account of his journeys, titled the Ying-yai Sheng-lan, which is an important source today for understanding 15th century societies around the Indian Ocean.

Seeing these expeditions must have been an event that people did not easily forget. The ships Zheng He commanded were up to 400 feet long, many times the size of Columbus’s ships that sailed across the Atlantic. For hundreds of years, people thought that the giant proportions of these ships were exaggerations. However, archaeological evidence from the shipyards where they were built in the Yangtze River prove that these ships were in fact even larger than modern football pitches.

Everywhere they sailed, they commanded the respect (and sometimes fear) of the local people, who offered tributes to the Chinese emperor. Because of this tribute and trade with all the peoples they encountered, Zheng He would sail back to China with exotic goods such as ivory, camels, gold, and even a giraffe from Africa. The expeditions sent one message to the world: China is an economic and political superpower.

Spreading Islam
Economics and politics were not the only effects of this great fleet that was commanded by Zheng He. He and his Muslim advisors regularly promoted Islam wherever they traveled. In the Indonesian islands of Java, Sumatra, Borneo and others, Zheng He found small communities of Muslims already there. Islam had started to spread in Southeast Asia a few hundred years before through trade from Arabia and India. Zheng He actively supported the continued growth of Islam in these areas.


A replica in Dubai that compares the size of Zheng He’s ships with those of Columbus

Zheng He established Chinese Muslim communities in Palembang, and along Java, the Malay Peninsula, and the Philippines. These communities preached Islam to the local people and were very important to the spread of Islam in the area. The fleet built masjids and provided other social services the local Muslim community would need.

Even after the death of Zheng He in 1433, other Chinese Muslims continued his work in Southeast Asia, spreading Islam. Chinese Muslim traders in Southeast Asia were encouraged to intermarry and assimilate with the local people on the islands and Malay Peninsula. This brought more people to Islam in Southeast Asia, as well as strengthened and diversified the growing Muslim community.

Legacy
As an admiral, diplomat, soldier, and trader, Zheng He is a giant of Chinese and Muslim history. He is seen as one of the greatest figured in the spread of Islam in Southeast Asia. Unfortunately, after his death, the Chinese government changed its philosophy to a more Confucian one which did not support such expeditions like Zheng He’s. As a result, his accomplishments and contributions were mostly forgotten or overlooked for hundreds of years in China.

His legacy in Southeast Asia, however is quite different. Numerous masjids in the region are named after him to commemorate his contributions. Islam spread in Southeast Asia through many forms, including trade, travelling preachers, and immigration. Admiral Zheng He was also a major part of its spread in that region. Today, Indonesia has the largest Muslim population of any nation in the world, and much of that could be attributed to the activities of Zheng He in the region.

Sources

Aqsha, D. (2010, July 13). Zheng he and islam in southeast asia. The Brunei Times. Retrieved from Zheng He and Islam in Southeast Asia | The Brunei Times

Ignatius, A. (2001, August 20). The asian voyage: In the wake of the admiral read more. Time Magazine, Retrieved from

The Muslim Who Was China’s Greatest Explorer – Zheng He | Lost Islamic History

Zheng He - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I clicked the link and the first line read "Zheng He (1371–1433), formerly romanized as Cheng Ho, was a Hui court eunuch".

 

[KingMamba]

And, chinese are fighting for their right to emigrate to any part of the world and can be found in practically all countries ,

They do share a special apprehension for blacks and muslims though - the trouble makers.


They dont mind the whites, in fact they employ whites as an advantage to reach out to western markets.

Such things are irrelevant, Indians make up the most foreign requests for green cards workers visas here in the states by a huge margin. People will go where there are opportunities, China is not yet a developed country so they cannot provide jobs for all their skilled workers, their economy is built on low cost labor after all.

Most skilled workers coming to China being white is just a coincidence, many American have recently gone to China because the jobs over here are slow in making or drying up. Other white American litter the middle east working those same jobs. It is a fact that Whites tend to be the most educated but things are starting to even out as Asians all over the world are picking up their performances. As for "trouble makers" keep your opinions to yourself.

I clicked the link and the first line read "Zheng He (1371–1433), formerly romanized as Cheng Ho, was a Hui court eunuch".

Eunuch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From ancient times until the Sui Dynasty, castration was both a traditional punishment (one of the Five Punishments) and a means of gaining employment in the Imperial service. Certain eunuchs gained immense power that occasionally superseded that of even the Grand Secretaries. Zheng He, who lived during the Ming Dynasty, is an example of such a eunuch.

 

[illusion8]

Such things are irrelevant, Indians make up the most foreign requests for green cards here in the states by a huge margin. People will go where there are opportunities, China is not yet a developed country so they cannot provide jobs for all their skilled workers, their economy is built on low cost labor after all.

Most skilled workers coming to China being white is just a coincidence, many American have recently gone to China because the jobs over here are slow in making or drying up. Other white American litter the middle east working those same jobs. It is a fact that Whites tend to be the most educated but things are starting to even out as Asians all over the world are picking up their performances. As for "trouble makers" keep your opinions to yourself.

I am surprised that you are blind to the discrimination towards muslim and blacks in China. Bro, there's nothing to debate much here because you cannot remove the blinds to see the reality, adios. Say that to muslim asylum seekers in China (similar to the one's to the west) - wait - there are none because they dont entertain them, and calling the world's second biggest economy a developing nation is an understatement.

Please again look at the title of the thread and the OP for confirmation.

 

[Thirdfront]

Such things are irrelevant, Indians make up the most foreign requests for green cards here in the states by a huge margin. People will go where there are opportunities, China is not yet a developed country so they cannot provide jobs for all their skilled workers, their economy is built on low cost labor after all.

Most skilled workers coming to China being white is just a coincidence, many American have recently gone to China because the jobs over here are slow in making or drying up. Other white American litter the middle east working those same jobs. It is a fact that Whites tend to be the most educated but things are starting to even out as Asians all over the world are picking up their performances. As for "trouble makers" keep your opinions to yourself.



Eunuch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From ancient times until the Sui Dynasty, castration was both a traditional punishment (one of the Five Punishments) and a means of gaining employment in the Imperial service. Certain eunuchs gained immense power that occasionally superseded that of even the Grand Secretaries. Zheng He, who lived during the Ming Dynasty, is an example of such a eunuch.

Care to cite? It is Mexicans at No. 1- 1.1 million applications for green card!

And I know what Eunuch means, just wondering why the original article never mentioned that...

 

[KingMamba]

Care to cite? It is Mexicans at No. 1- 1.1 million applications for green card!

Thread on this forum search for it, and Mexicans are mostly illegal around here.

I am surprised that you are blind to the discrimination towards muslim and blacks in China. Bro, there's nothing to debate much here because you cannot remove the blinds to see the reality, adios. Say that to muslim asylum seekers in China (similar to the one's to the west) - wait - there are none because they dont entertain them, and calling the world's second biggest economy a developing nation is an understatement.

Please again look at the title of the thread and the OP for confirmation.

I think most Chinese will agree with me when I say they are not yet developed, and calling Muslims and Blacks trouble makers is your own opinion now if you say there is racism against blacks than I will agree and that is in most societies even here in the states and even in your own India. There are no Muslim asylum seekers in China because Western nations offer better opportunities that is all.