Jordanians want to end peace treaty with Israel

[kalu_miah]

Come on man, this is an open forum where every member from every nationality is free to express themselves...

In addition, I do not think they are wrong. It is a fact that USSR made a treaty with British Empire to invade the middle east and later divide the whole middle east between USSR and Britain. (Skype piscot agreement).

The plan did not go well for Russian Empire as the Bolsheviks launched civil war to topple the Monarchy. Russia had to enter a humiliating treaty giving up all its conquered land in eastern europe to central powers (Germans and Ottomans). At that time, half of Europe was under Russian control. This was in exchange for a guarantee that central powers would not attack Russian empire since Russia was already facing civil war from within and was in no position to fight outside war.

However, British did manage to occupy the whole middle east, albeit with Russian help. Later the treaty was confessed to by USSR.

Therefore, you cannot deny that Jordan, Saudi arabia, Palestine etc. are brainchilds of British Empire (and to some extent, Russian Empire). Russian Empire would have occupied and annexed them too if not for the unfortunate civil war at that time. Anyway, USSR emerged and the corrupt monarchy was overthrown.

Its possible, I need to look at the Russian empire role there, but I know about Sykes-Picot, which had a huge role.

Now about Indians, you don't know Indians like we do here in this part of the world. So if you are a Muslim and care about future of Muslim population of the world, then I have one advice, we should look at resident Muslims from that corner of the world to get real information about local people. So for example, if I wanted to know about Russians, we should depend on credible and reliable Tatar or Kazakh opinions.

About Indians poking their nose, yes they have the right to express their opinion and I have the right to complain about it.

Indian poking nose has actually cost us a lot and still costing us. Outsiders poking nose is generally not good and the only way to prevent that for any region is to get their s%it together, before others mess you up completely.

 

[King Solomon]

Its possible, I need to look at the Russian empire role there, but I know about Sykes-Picot, which had a huge role.

Now about Indians, you don't know Indians like we do here in this part of the world. So if you are a Muslim and care about future of Muslim population of the world, then I have one advice, we should look at resident Muslims from that corner of the world to get real information about local people. So for example, if I wanted to know about Russians, we should depend on credible and reliable Tatar or Kazakh opinions.

About Indians poking their nose, yes they have the right to express their opinion and I have the right to complain about it.

Indian poking nose has actually cost us a lot and still costing us. Outsiders poking nose is generally not good and the only way to prevent that for any region is to get their s%it together.

Basically, it was an agreement between British, French and Russian Empire. We planned to invade the entire middle east together and divide the territory between ourselves. Unfortunately due to civil war, Russia couldn't make much gain in middle east except in Iran. However we still helped the British and French to gain control of Middle east and Turkey (treaty of sevres) and gained much territory in Caucasus .

About Indians, why the hatred? Me, for example, although I'm russian, I'm much interested in middle east affairs. If they are indians this does not mean they will always have to stay confined to Indian topics.

I see you are from banladesh. looking at the map, the first thing i can fathom is it is very much necessary for banladesh to maintain good relations with india. You cannot afford to ignore them being sorrounded by them.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

BlackEagle hes russian beleive me kazakhs are not like this , please everyone see the face of s-19 the troll first he acted like muslim , and now hes a zionist lover , now i always said i hope that sherif husein or whatever never betrayed us , we would have been much stronger together now , their would be no israel , we made british surrender many times with arab brothers help , but that guy betrayed us for what??? look what happened after 'the British were embarrassed, the Arabs dismayed and the Turks delighted.'

this is when the secret plan to divide ottoman land was exposed it made those traiters angry , listen im going to give a real advice , never trust the west enough for it to totaly rely on them , examples , that arab betrays ottomans thinking british will give him the land but british make secret agreement , and they take it , another example , gaddafi helps sarkozy in presidential election gives money , france is first country to jump and destroy him

 

[Hussein]

It was the other way Ottoman-Turk : Arabs wanted to be free from your empire so Europe managed to involve in it to weaken your empire.
Egypt is a great country and that's why many countries prefer to see Egypt in the hands of extremists to weaken it and not let it modernize.

Sarkozy? for now the people who wrote it are near Gaddafi so it could be fake but there are some analysis about it ... we only know after elections so be sure it is very near now
Whatever the financial of a presidential election in France is a problem: they don't have enough money so they look for it, mostly for the parti of Sarkozy from the pockets of rich people. For PS, the socialist parti, the money is coming from locales and from the members of the parti who are a lot and give a part of their salary to the parti.

 

[UKBengali]

Irony is we have a gathering mostly here of those from countries that run to Judea Christians to protect them from their own Muslim genocidal dictators. You guys love to have a Palestrina cause but can't seem to have enough of national pride to get yourselves and country out of the desperately need causes at home. Each and everyone of you for the " cause" come from a country that needs it's own backyard fixed first and foremost.

meanwhile Judea Christian countries out rank you in practically all fields and are more developed with great and mature democratic institutions. Always the gate keeper for everybody else's business while your house burns. Worry less about Israel, they are far more advanced and better off than you guys. You can't defeat them, face it other than terror attacks , your militaries and armies are way inferior. BUT if you want a real solution? then reign in your terrorists organizations like Hamas to accept a two state solution.

I wonder if you ever meet people in your own countries going " dude, forget them , we need to clean up our own crap "



Bangladesh is a gift from India... chances are if Indian army did not land up on time, your lineage would have been stopped in it's tracks before you .

LOL.

2 Muslim countries(Turkey and Malaysia) are on track to reach 1st world status by 2020.

Another Muslim country, Indonesia, is predicted by IMF to smash through the 2 trillion dollar barrier by 2020 after reaching 1 trillion by next year.

Bangladesh is currently growing at over 6% a year.

Iran is making fantastic progress in all fields.

At least half of the Muslims in the world live in countries that are developing very rapidly.

 

[lem34]

The problem with Jordan and other Muslim countries is that their leaderships do not reflect or carry their masses with them. This is firstly due to lack of true democracy and or our leaders being bribed and or bullied by Tel Aviv-AIPAC-America. These peace treaties with Israel therefore are actually counter productive long term as when people get some influence on policy as in Iran the pendulum swings and often the peace treaties are associated with those same unpopular leaders and people become more anti Israeli

 

[Raphael]

It's a pretty accepted fact that Saudi Arabia tacitly accommodates Israel because they view Iran as a greater menace. Saudi Arabia has considered allowing Israeli fighters to fly over Saudi airspace to strike Iranian targets. The whole American strategy in the Middle East is built on exploiting this division. Even American pop culture is aware of this - the Simpsons satirized the quasi-alliance by suggesting in the future, the 51st state to be incorporated into the USA will be Saudi Israelia:

The Simpsons - Saudisralia - YouTube

 

[Tshering22]

How is Saudi Arabia accommodating israel?? We are always the most vocal criticizers of Israel in the UN. We have always been the ones to push UN action and resolutions against Israel.

Don't take his words seriously. Some have an unfortunate habit of thinking that wars are a child's play.

I really don't know how the hell do people still think Saudi Arabia and Israel are even acquaintances let alone friends.

They think that since US+KSA= friends AND Israel+USA= friends, therefore Israel+KSA= allies.

Sure we are Anti-Iran but being against Iran does not automatically means pro-Israel. Saudi Arabia is still one of the few countries that is maintaining the status of "At war" with Israel till today.

You don't have to go to war with someone just to convince them. Some countries have tried that and failed miserably.

 

[JayAtl]

Its possible, I need to look at the Russian empire role there, but I know about Sykes-Picot, which had a huge role.

Now about Indians, you don't know Indians like we do here in this part of the world. So if you are a Muslim and care about future of Muslim population of the world, then I have one advice, we should look at resident Muslims from that corner of the world to get real information about local people. So for example, if I wanted to know about Russians, we should depend on credible and reliable Tatar or Kazakh opinions.

About Indians poking their nose, yes they have the right to express their opinion and I have the right to complain about it.

Indian poking nose has actually cost us a lot and still costing us. Outsiders poking nose is generally not good and the only way to prevent that for any region is to get their s%it together, before others mess you up completely.

you are biggest hypocrite, bigot lately on these forums. For you like above- its Muslims this and Muslims that , yet you on are on all fours living under Judea Christian laws . You are such a great preacher of muslim ummah that you chose to go live in the US Judea Christian country. Indians treat their Muslims better than you treat yours in the dump you call Bangladesh.

Repeat these two after me " I'm beholden to Judea Chrustain laws and love it while preaching radicalism to others" " If it was not for India, my family tree would have ended with my grand parents and their kids, my flag , my country and my existence is only by the grace of India and nobody else"

Finally" I love Judea Christian country so much that I even have they call me "Bob or some other anglo name" here"

LOL.

2 Muslim countries(Turkey and Malaysia) are on track to reach 1st world status by 2020.

Another Muslim country, Indonesia, is predicted by IMF to smash through the 2 trillion dollar barrier by 2020 after reaching 1 trillion by next year.

Bangladesh is currently growing at over 6% a year.

Iran is making fantastic progress in all fields.

At least half of the Muslims in the world live in countries that are developing very rapidly.

Great, but still worse than Judea Christian countries, atheist China and Hindu majority India. 6% of piss poor is still piss poor. You have nothing to brag about. by 2020 you ( all your countries ) would be still lagging behind on GDP indicators. That's the bold truth ...

 

[UKBengali]

you are biggest hypocrite, bigot lately on these forums. For you like above- its Muslims this and Muslims that , yet you on are on all fours living under Judea Christian laws . You are such a great preacher of muslim ummah that you chose to go live in the US Judea Christian country. Indians treat their Muslims better than you treat yours in the dump you call Bangladesh.

Repeat these two after me " I'm beholden to Judea Chrustain laws and love it while preaching radicalism to others" " If it was not for India, my family tree would have ended with my grand parents and their kids, my flag , my country and my existence is only by the grace of India and nobody else"

Finally" I love Judea Christian country so much that I even have they call me "Bob or some other anglo name" here"



Great, but still worse than Judea Christian countries, atheist China and Hindu majority India. 6% of piss poor is still piss poor. You have nothing to brag about. by 2020 you ( all your countries ) would be still lagging behind on GDP indicators. That's the bold truth ...

Bangladesh a dump?

The average Bangladeshi lives for 70 years compared to 67 for an average Indian.

And please can someone remind Hindus that it was only 10 years ago that they committed the Gujarat massacre.

Hindus since independence have committed mass murder on Muslims, Sikhs and Christians.

Hindu India seems to be a very bigotted place.

 

[JayAtl]

LOL.

Hindu India has a life expectancy of 67 years and Muslim Bangladesh has a life expectancy of 70 years.

Not according to wiki CIA stats List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

regardless LOL on this- are you really comparing Bangladesh to India ? Again Hindu majority India, atheist China, Judea Christian countries have all outdone your examples.

 

[UKBengali]

Not according to wiki CIA stats List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

regardless LOL on this- are you really comparing Bangladesh to India ? Again Hindu majority India, atheist China, Judea Christian countries have all outdone your examples.

LOL @ Hindu-majority India against Muslim-majority Malaysia.

Malyasia is on the brink of 1st world status while India has poverty in multiple-states worse than sub-Saharan Africa.

Who cares for CIA biased data when the UN says that Bangladeshis live 3 years longer than Indians.

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wmchart2011/wmchart2011.pdf


I am done with you as you are not worth discussing with.

And you did not argue with my reference to hateful Hindus murdering Muslims in Gujarat as recently as 2002

 

[King Solomon]

It's a pretty accepted fact that Saudi Arabia tacitly accommodates Israel because they view Iran as a greater menace. Saudi Arabia has considered allowing Israeli fighters to fly over Saudi airspace to strike Iranian targets. The whole American strategy in the Middle East is built on exploiting this division. Even American pop culture is aware of this - the Simpsons satirized the quasi-alliance by suggesting in the future, the 51st state to be incorporated into the USA will be Saudi Israelia:

The Simpsons - Saudisralia - YouTube

What the hell??