Jordan, Turkey discuss security cooperation

[Yzd Khalifa]

That's good to hear. Why then would it be considered so daunting for Arab countries to intervene in Syria?

Whenever the idea of Arab intervention comes up, it seems like everyone claims the Syrian military is still intact. Lol.

Launching a full-scale attack on Assad's Syria, without the approval of the UN, is no less than an act of war. We tried to pass two resolutions which disappointingly were vetoed. The US couldn't invade Iraq without seeking an approval from the Security Council, waging a war isn't a picnic, and the under the international laws, the Assad's regime has the right to defend itself.

For now, the only entity we can rely own to secure these chemical weapons is the FSA. They DID storm a few facilities that they thought these places may contain Chemical weapons, but they found nothing. For now, the FSA is acting for the benefits of the Syrian people as well as their outsider friends, they are trying their hardest to secure themselves weapons, and they will continue to do so.

The Israelis are worried about those chemical weapons, and transferring game-changing weapons to Hezbollah, they succeeded to prevent Hezbollah from acquiring sophisticated weapons for their own interests, which aren't primarily to us compared with the WMDs.

True. Plus Jordan probably doesn't have the firepower for such a large scaled operation probably, am I right? More of a defensive force.

Not really, Jordan won't go to war on its own, I'm sure about that.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Mate if that's the case. We would have annexed many countries around us. You'll need UN's approval for a direct intervention or you'll be the bad guy in-according to International laws.

True, that's why Turkey tried to restrain itself while she were under attack by Assad's thugs, Jordan restrained herself as well. But I really was proud of Turkey when she bombed Assad's mercenaries in retaliation for killing innocent civilians

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

True, their economy isn't at best due to the huge budget cuts for the refugees, lack of tourism, and living under a state of alert. By the end of this year, the Syrian refugees will make %25 out of Jordan population.

Maybe Jordan can't afford going to a whole war on its own, but I don't think her allies will abandon her. The US, for example, is keeping a squadron of F-16s in Jordan in case that Assad tried to commit a political suicide.

Mate, until now, i didn't do a research on Jordan. As i thought Jordan was one of the Oil-Rich Arab countries and have decent industries like KSA.

Now I have looked to wiki.

Popolation: 6 mil.
GDP: $30 Bil
GDP/Capita : $4600

The Jordanian economy is beset by insufficient supplies of water, oil, and other natural resources. Other challenges include high budget deficit, high outstanding public debt, high levels of poverty and unemployment. Jordan has few natural resources and a small industrial base.Jordan suffers from a brain drain of its most talented workers.

Mate this is not looking good. Now another question crossed my mind.... No offence, but are you trying to make a cat look like lion ???

@BLACKEAGLE

One more thing, Jordan's economy will get better by joining the GCC

 

[Sinnerman108]

True, their economy isn't at best due to the huge budget cuts for the refugees, lack of tourism, and living under a state of alert. By the end of this year, the Syrian refugees will make %25 out of Jordan population.

Maybe Jordan can't afford going to a whole war on its own, but I don't think her allies will abandon her. The US, for example, is keeping a squadron of F-16s in Jordan in case that Assad tried to commit a political suicide.


@BLACKEAGLE

One more thing, Jordan's economy will get better by joining the GCC

I have strong belief that our success is if we let the Turks lead.
They provide the best middle ground for the whole Ummah, and the right mix of ingredients for success.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I have strong belief that our success is if we let the Turks lead.
They provide the best middle ground for the whole Ummah, and the right mix of ingredients for success.

Currently, Turkey is taking a major role not just in the ME, but worldwide, I agree.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I have strong belief that our success is if we let the Turks lead.
They provide the best middle ground for the whole Ummah, and the right mix of ingredients for success.

Big big no bro. We all want to see great relations with Turkey, but away from this brotherhood crap.

 

[Pakistanisage]

I am a man of few words and all I have to say about this development is ......

 

[Neptune]

Great move Jordan, KSA and formerly Egypt were those Arabic nations that the Turkish gov't really wanted to establish a strong partnership mostly relied on defence, health.

About Syria thing, well I think Jordan and KSA alone can take Syria out. But it'll be considered as an act of war. But if a joint military op is launched under an alliance, I don't think that anybody would give a crap about it to prevent it. For ex: Turkey under nato or Jordan, KSA under GCC.

 

[TheThreePashas]

One more thing, Jordan's economy will get better by joining the GCC

While they are an Arab nation, I think Jordan would do better to enter the Turkish sphere of influence. Turkey seems to have stronger connections to Arab countries in the Levent area and in N. Africa rather than other Arab nations so Jordan seems likely to be the only viable formal Turkish ally. (I say formal because no matter how close Turkey and KSA,etc become, Turkey can only have so close relations with a monarchy. Yes Jordan's a kingdom but it seems to be a more relaxed system)

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

While they are an Arab nation, I think Jordan would do better to enter the Turkish sphere of influence. Turkey seems to have stronger connections to Arab countries in the Levent area and in N. Africa rather than other Arab nations so Jordan seems likely to be the only viable formal Turkish ally. (I say formal because no matter how close Turkey and KSA,etc become, Turkey can only have so close relations with a monarchy. Yes Jordan's a kingdom but it seems to be a more relaxed system)

Maybe, I guess you're right. But, aside from developing stronger economic ties, Turkey is a peace-maker

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

True, their economy isn't at best due to the huge budget cuts for the refugees, lack of tourism, and living under a state of alert. By the end of this year, the Syrian refugees will make %25 out of Jordan population.

Maybe Jordan can't afford going to a whole war on its own, but I don't think her allies will abandon her. The US, for example, is keeping a squadron of F-16s in Jordan in case that Assad tried to commit a political suicide.


@BLACKEAGLE

One more thing, Jordan's economy will get better by joining the GCC

That's true, we have been going through exceptional economic hardships since the beginning of Arab Spring and it's consequences, from large scales of refugees, cut off Egyptian gas, snubbed trade through Syria, reduction of tourism, and security and political implications of Arab Spring inside Jordan.

Nevertheless, we bride ourselves with our limited resources and at same time achievements in education, health care, infrastructure, security, culture and military.

BTW, have you been in Amman?

 

[T-123456]

Has life become worse for the common Jordanian since the refugees came?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Has life become worse for the common Jordanian since the refugees came?

Yes it has. House rents have been multiplied by four and five times. pressure on infrastructure and governmental services, like street jams, more students at schools and patients at hospitals. Water has been a serious problem till recently. It's now much better as for water after the completion of Disi mga water project. I hope there will not be pressure on electricity.

Nevertheless, that's fine for us, nice that we can help them, I love them being here

 

[T-123456]

How about the radiation levels of the water,is it safe now?
I read that the radiation levels are a health concern.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

How about the radiation levels of the water,is it safe now?
I read that the radiation levels are a health concern.

This was refuted by the government, they say it's better than international standards.