Jordan’s King Finds Fault With Everyone Concerned

[BLACKEAGLE]

May be Jordan has the best training in Arab world that doesnt speak much because Jordanian cadets make up for a large bunch of Arab students being trained at Pakistani academies. Beside for a long time Pakistani advisers have served in Jordan.

It is true that Jordan happens to be very stable and systemized but still the government policies have been lack luster in attracting investments and raising living standards.

To save your time, don't bother waiting a reply from me. Try not to quote me.

 

[TheCommander]

He has always been in public checking out his people needs since he got the reign, and his people love and respect him. You can get many more similar pictures before Arab spring. Maybe, some may think this is propaganda, but the king who works this hard and care too much to get his people support deserve to be respected.

Let me tell you something, in the media I have never seen him like this before. Mostly he was seen in uniform and his lifestyle was talked. In order to prevent the effects of the Arap Spring, even his wife was asked to not to be seen in the media too much because of her lifestyle (the news was saying that she is keen on luxury)

You say you, the Jordanians, are happy and your most demands are met. Then tell me why many protests took place in Jordan and people demand somethings? Besides, you do not represent Jordan just yourself and I do not think everyone thinks as you do.

Protests break out in Jordan, mention king by name

Jordanian protesters make rare move: speak out against King Abdullah - CNN.com

Jordan protesters call for downfall of the regime | Reuters

 

[AUz]

Nope, outsiders tend to think that kings enslave their people while in reality their people live in far more dignity and prosperity than others who think they have democracy. We have a European monarchy style (to some extent). However, how many of you know that no one has ever been executed in Jordan since it's establishment for political reasons including plotting of assassinating the king? And how many know that there have never been a political prisoner since 1991 except for few months for a couple of people?
Since most of our demands are met and we live in prosperity and stability, respected and taken care of, why would we change our rule?

Good.

Jordan spend alot of money of education...This is a good thing too.

I heard there's Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan? How popular is Muslim Brotherhood? Jordanians seem really moderate when it comes to Islam etc..

 

[King Solomon]

Jordan unfortunately does not have any significant oil field, thus they have fallen behind in the GCC oil boom and today has a GDP/capita just above Syria. In many ways circumstances have been unfair to Jordan due to refugees from Iraq and Israel. Unlike other Arab countries, Jordan does not have the luxury to throw more money at citizens to quell dissatisfaction, thus his concern over the future of his country is understandable.

Unlike many other Arab countries/Iran, the King is moderate and peace agreement with Israel is genuine. Abdullah II said in an interview that his relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has improved and that the latter has contributed to the stability of the Hashemite government.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Let me tell you something, in the media I have never seen him like this before. Mostly he was seen in uniform and his lifestyle was talked. In order to prevent the effects of the Arap Spring, even his wife was asked to not to be seen in the media too much because of her lifestyle (the news was saying that she is keen on luxury)

You say you, the Jordanians, are happy and your most demands are met. Then tell me why many protests took place in Jordan and people demand somethings? Besides, you do not represent Jordan just yourself and I do not think everyone thinks as you do.

Protests break out in Jordan, mention king by name

Jordanian protesters make rare move: speak out against King Abdullah - CNN.com

Jordan protesters call for downfall of the regime | Reuters

I claim that I speak of the vast majority, however, the opposition (MB) have demands which we don't agree on, the king asked them to pass those demands democratically by taking part of the Parliamentary election, so since they are confident of having Jordanians on their side they can get the majority in the Parliament and yet pass whatever they want through democratic channels, but they refused to take part in the elections because they know very well that they would be humiliated and very few would elect their representatives like what happened before. Therefore, they tried to pressure the king and gov by staging allot of demonstrations (the largest one was of 10000) in the streets, so they get their demands met through yelling in the streets but after thee elections which 2.2 million Jordanians took part of they shut the fck up. BTW, the elections was monitored and praised by independent international agencies...

You say that he only started to show up after Arab spring, but who the fuckk are you? I who happen to be Jordanian tell you that he and his father have always been keen to check out their people needs face to face every while. I don't even recall a week without seeing him visiting poor families in the last ten years. Don't bother yourself, we like him.

Good.

Jordan spend alot of money of education...This is a good thing too.

I heard there's Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan? How popular is Muslim Brotherhood? Jordanians seem really moderate when it comes to Islam etc..

Majority loath and detest them. Because in short and according to my observation, they are opportunistic, backstabbers, liars, backward and hypocrites.

 

[TheCommander]

I claim that I speak of the vast majority, however, the opposition (MB) have demands which we don't agree on, the king asked them to pass those demands democratically by taking part of the Parliamentary election, so since they are confident of having Jordanians on their side they can get the majority in the Parliament and yet pass whatever they want through democratic channels, but they refused to take part in the elections because they know very well that they would be humiliated and very few would elect their representatives like what happened before. Therefore, they tried to pressure the king and gov by staging allot of demonstrations (the largest one was of 10000) in the streets, so they get their demands met through yelling in the streets but after thee elections which 2.2 million Jordanians took part of they shut the fck up. BTW, the elections was monitored and praised by independent international agencies...

You say that he only started to show up after Arab spring, but who the fuckk are you? I who happen to be Jordanian tell you that he and his father have always been keen to check out their people needs face to face every while. I don't even recall a week without seeing him visiting poor families in the last ten years. Don't bother yourself, we like him.

Listen to me you lunatic! If you swear again I will show you the real swear. Got it?

I WOULDN`T GIVE A SH!T ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY AND ABOUT YOUR F@CKING KING IF HE DID NOT THROW MUD AT MY COUNTRY. HE IS THE LAST PERSON TO CRITICIZE MY COUNTRY. I STILL DO NOT GIVE A SH!T WHETHER YOU CLAIM YOU SPEAK OF THE MAJORITY OR NOT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DEMAND THEIR RIGHTS AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Listen to me you lunatic! If you swear again I will show you the real swear. Got it?

I WOULDN`T GIVE A SH!T ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY AND ABOUT YOUR F@CKING KING IF HE DID NOT THROW MUD AT MY COUNTRY. HE IS THE LAST PERSON TO CRITICIZE MY COUNTRY. I STILL DO NOT GIVE A SH!T WHETHER YOU CLAIM YOU SPEAK OF THE MAJORITY OR NOT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DEMAND THEIR RIGHTS AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.

You guys always return to your nature, it's your level, enjoy it yourself alone.

 

[TheCommander]

@BLACKEAGLE

it is your level, not mine. You got what you deserve. You are the one who started. Do not act as if you did not start it. I personally do not like this kind of thing but I cannot stand any kind of action like you did.

 

[muse]

I think it's interesting that an absolute Monarch would denigrate the democratic credentials of leaders such Erdogan and Morsi who have actually stood for and won election, when did an absolute or othetrwise Monarch have the courage to such a thing - and yet this absolute King assures the world that he will ensure a transition to Democracy? A bit curious.

I also found the comment about Assad, a physician trained in the UK, to be "provincial", rather odd - maybe the king was just having a bad day, what with the behavior of his family and in particular his extravagant Queen - it was also interesting this Arab and balestinian divide, that seems to have the potential for serious conflict

 

[somebozo]

I claim that I speak of the vast majority,

You say that he only started to show up after Arab spring, but who the fuckk are you? I who happen to be Jordanian tell you that he and his father have always been keen to check out their people needs face to face every while. I don't even recall a week without seeing him visiting poor families in the last ten years. Don't bother yourself, we like him.

Please post some pictures.

https://www.google.com.sa/search?hl...N&tab=wi&authuser=0&ei=m1lJUdqaG9Ch7AbyloGoBw

 

[muse]

So Defensive and Angry these people, all the time - and the language - you tell them they have eyebrows over their eyes and they go beserk

 

[Doritos11]

Abdullah of Jordan > All GCC dogs

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I think it's interesting that an absolute Monarch would denigrate the democratic credentials of leaders such Erdogan and Morsi who have actually stood for and won election, when did an absolute or othetrwise Monarch have the courage to such a thing - and yet this absolute King assures the world that he will ensure a transition to Democracy? A bit curious.

I also found the comment about Assad, a physician trained in the UK, to be "provincial", rather odd - maybe the king was just having a bad day, what with the behavior of his family and in particular his extravagant Queen - it was also interesting this Arab and balestinian divide, that seems to have the potential for serious conflict

Muse, my friend, what word of my first post in this thread you don't understand? Believe me, it's not about defaming Sunnah or Saudies at all to jump into conclusions.

 

[T-123456]

This article is bs!
The Jordan King is one of the most diplomatic speakers,so i dont think he would have said all this.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Royal Court responds to King's The Atlantic interview

AMMONNEWS - The Royal Hashemite Court on Tuesday said that the article published by The Atlantic on King Abdullah II, segments of which were republished by local and international news outlets, included "many fallacies and took matters out of their correct context."

A source at the Royal Court said that the article included analysis that reflected the author's point of view, and information attributed to King Abdullah "in an inaccurate and untrustworthy manner."

The Royal Court clarified that the King's meeting with the Atlantic journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, came in the context of the King's relay of his vision towards comprehensive reform, and his keenness to not waste opportunities to realize tangible results to move Jordan forward on the path of development and progress.

The source stressed the King's "pride in all Jordanians, and in all the state agencies and institutions, the sincerity of their loyalty, and awareness of the challenges that faces the nation from both the inside and outside."

In regards to statements attributed to the King in the article on local state and social institutions, the source said that "the descriptions were projected in a manner that contradicts reality and truth," the source stressing the King believes that the strength and solidarity of the "internal front" is the bases of moving forward.

"His Majesty highly regards the role of tribal sheikhs and dignitaries, and the nation's youth and tribes, in the cities, villages, Badia, and refugee camps in building Jordan and defending its accomplishments and capabilities," the source added.

In regards to the article's attribution of the King's statements on state leaders, including Turkish Prime Minister, Egypt and Syria's presidents, the source noted that Jordan holds strong and unique relationships with such neighboring and friendly states, where respect and mutual trust prevails, and stressed the keenness to progress such relations in all aspects through continuous coordination with its leaders, "to whom the King holds utmost respect and regard."

The Royal Court noted in this regard to the King's recent "successful" trip to Turkey, and the continuous coordination and consultation between King Abdullah and the Egyptian leadership regarding various Arab and regional issues.

"Jordan, with the awareness of its people and wisdom of its leadership, with move forward in protecting its national unity, and engraining comprehensive reforms towards a promising future for all its citizens," the source added.

The Royal Court stressed the importance of "accuracy" in distinguishing between what is "King's talk," and what is the author's analysis and personal opinions.

The Atlantic article by its national correspondent Jeffrey Goldberg was published on its website on March 18, and is set to be published in The Atlantic's April print edition.

The New York Times published segments of the article on Monday, highlighting alleged statements attributed to King Abdullah by The Atlantic's correspondent, describing Egyptian president Mohammad Morsi as "having no depth," and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan as an "authoritarian who views democracy as a bus ride "Once I get to my stop, I am getting off."

The King is reported to have said that "The monarchy is going to change," citing that His Son, Crown Prince Hussein, will preside over a "Western-style democracy with a constitutional monarchy, and not the position of Bashar today," in reference to Syrian President Bashar Al Assad.

Royal Court responds to King's The Atlantic interview