Joining TPP essential to counter expanding China

[Fantasy]

Lets clear things up a little, the TPP is just a trade pact, that could potentially tie Korea and Japan to a free trade pact that is potentially harmful to their economy, there's no immediate long term benefit seen from such a trade pact only that it could harm both countries agricultural produce that one is for certain. Without China participation, the TPP is basically rather worthless, and with China destine to restructure their economy and become the largest consumer nation in 5 years, China do not need to apply to such a pact. Excluding China from certain trades using the TPP will amount to cutting your own nose because China can also do the same when it comes to a trade war, by not expanding further Korean imports for example, the loss of Chinese market far outnumber the ability for any countries within the TPP to absorb such a blow, so any serious economist can't see such a pact as a containment. No country will sacrifice their economic interest and in this context the TPP is really a worthless free trade block without Chinese participation, and if it isn't fair and exploitative in nature China will simply not participate in such a bloc, but one thing is for certain, Chinese market in the future can never be ignored. The main purpose of the TPP is to coax China to join and play under a certain rule of the Free Trade pact that might be exploitative in nature to China's economy and export innovation, not going to happen, China simply don't join, and other countries like Koreea and Japan will need to expand their exports to China in the future or loss out, as other countries fill the void, all this talk about TPP as a containment tool is merely talk, but it carries no punch, since you can't use the TPP to substitute Chinese, manufacturing capacity and consumer power, both factors that immensely beneficial to these countries.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

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[Korean]

ince you can't use the TPP to substitute Chinese, manufacturing capacity and consumer power

Surely you can. Vietnam comes new China under the TPP scheme, while China faces tens of millions of unemployment from foreign manufacturers fleeing China, or Chinese companies unable to compete with Vietnamese production base.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Lets clear things up a little, the TPP is just a trade pact, that could potentially tie Korea and Japan to a free trade pact that is potentially harmful to their economy, there's no immediate long term benefit seen from such a trade pact only that it could harm both countries agricultural produce that one is for certain. Without China participation, the TPP is basically rather worthless, and with China destine to restructure their economy and become the largest consumer nation in 5 years, China do not need to apply to such a pact. Excluding China from certain trades using the TPP will amount to cutting your own nose because China can also do the same when it comes to a trade war, by not expanding further Korean imports for example, the loss of Chinese market far outnumber the ability for any countries within the TPP to absorb such a blow, so any serious economist can't see such a pact as a containment. No country will sacrifice their economic interest and in this context the TPP is really a worthless free trade block without Chinese participation, and if it isn't fair and exploitative in nature China will simply not participate in such a bloc, but one thing is for certain, Chinese market in the future can never be ignored. The main purpose of the TPP is to coax China to join and play under a certain rule of the Free Trade pact that might be exploitative in nature to China's economy and export innovation, not going to happen, China simply don't join, and other countries like Koreea and Japan will need to expand their exports to China in the future or loss out, as other countries fill the void, all this talk about TPP as a containment tool is merely talk, but it carries no punch, since you can't use the TPP to substitute Chinese, manufacturing capacity and consumer power, both factors that immensely beneficial to these countries.

Korea's and Japans loss means Germany's gain. Perfect. More Beamers and Porsche for China!

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Surely you can. Vietnam comes new China under the TPP scheme, while China faces tens of millions of unemployment from foreign manufacturers fleeing China, or Chinese companies unable to compete with Vietnamese production base.

China's workforce is bigger than all the developing TTP countries put together. How will they ever be able to substitute China, not to speak of the many years and much money they need to bring their infrastructure and manufacturing to China's level.

As far as I know neither the US, Korea nor Japan have the financial muscle to help them out.

 

[Fantasy]

Surely you can. Vietnam comes new China under the TPP scheme, while China faces tens of millions of unemployment from foreign manufacturers fleeing China, or Chinese companies unable to compete with Vietnamese production base.

Do you know how much export to China have benefited Korean market, and the amount of deficit China have with Korean trade? Trade is a 2 way street, just like Chinese trade with Vietnam is a 2 way street, Chinese manufacturing capacity can easily shift to serving Chinese domestic market should a trade war occur, guess who lose out when China starts to sanction Samsung, because Korea will cut Chinese export quota, do you really think Korean fancy cars are essential to Chinese survival? Answer is no.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Do you know how much export to China have benefited Korean market, and the amount of deficit China have with Korean trade? Trade is a 2 way street, just like Chinese trade with Vietnam is a 2 way street, Chinese manufacturing capacity can easily shift to serving Chinese domestic market should a trade war occur, guess who lose out when China starts to sanction Samsung, because Korea will cut Chinese export quota, do you really think Korean fancy cars are essential to Chinese survival? Answer is no.

Fancy Korean cars? you mean piece of $hit Korean cars. Industrial construction vehicles from Sany Heavy Industry were used in Fukushima to cool the reactor.

Sany

Now if you say that a low quality cheap budget Korean personal automobile is more high tech than industrial construction vehicles, I've got nothing to say

When we think of fancy car, we think of BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Porsche and the presidential car, Hongqi.

 

[Determined Tiger]

German knows how to build cars but don't know how to make them cheap.

because they are not stupid as much as some third world country in southeas asia, plus somebody in that inferior country love to yell at China cheap quality product but now say an opposite way with German, what a flexible tongue!?

Without US, Canada, Japan, Vietnam, etc, buying chinese products. China would go back to stone age. It's common sense.

yeahhhhh righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!

He's not German, thus, he doesn't need to know the word German. Too bad nobody gives a rat about german. If it wasn't for the US, there would be two Germanies.

If it weren't for hitler, US wouldn't be involved.

there were some damn fools screaming like a bi.tch for help during the U.S. invasion in vietnam decades ago, and now saying an opposite 360 degree!!! what a damn fool double face!!!

HAhahaha, I get girls driving a toyota corolla. Don't need a beamer, not a practical car here in canada.

talkative illness causing this manner stupid more than ever!!! avoid speaking is better!!!

finally what else i should say? nothing better to describe this character = clown is always a clown!!!

 

[vtnsx]

because they are not stupid as much as some third world country in southeas asia, plus somebody in that inferior country love to yell at China cheap quality product but now say an opposite way with German, what a flexible tongue!?



yeahhhhh righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!





there were some damn fools screaming like a bi.tch for help during the U.S. invasion in vietnam decades ago, and now saying an opposite 360 degree!!! what a damn fool double face!!!



talkative illness causing this manner stupid more than ever!!! avoid speaking is better!!!

finally what else i should say? nothing better to describe this character = clown is always a clown!!!

You wanna take a gun and point at my head? be my guest. You better pull the trigger before you kissed the ground.

 

[NiceGuy]

You wanna take a gun and point at my head? be my guest. You better pull the trigger before you kissed the ground.

Cool off bro , he's my Cambodian idol

there were some damn fools screaming like a bi.tch for help during the U.S. invasion in vietnam decades ago, and now saying an opposite 360 degree!!! what a damn fool double face!!!

learn more about communist bloc , as you can see Pol Pot and CHINA were traitors after recieving great help from USSR.