JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[Trango Towers]

If they incorporated a dorsal spine why didn't the test co formal fuel tanks for extended range. Maybe they have but not viable. Anyone she'd any light

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am declaring it as JF-18 , it look too much different then origional

That is not JF18. It is just a B variant of JF17

 

[alimobin memon]

Okay.. I think recon., border patrol, training, precision strike roles are okay but I don't think it will be suitable for anti-ship role since I think it has a reduced range and payload capacity than a single seat variant. But I think training and reconnaissance should be its main mission.

please clear the payload capacity being lesser than block 1 where is it written ?

 

[Imran Khan]

please clear the payload capacity being lesser than block 1 where is it written ?

1 extra seat and 1 extra pilot also take some of payload sir at least 200kg

 

[alimobin memon]

1 extra seat and 1 extra pilot also take some of payload sir at least 200kg

Thanks, between the increased wingspan also means extra hp each wing ?

 

[Deino]

Do we really need yet another JF-17B thread???

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

JF18 , Timely upgrade over the JF17

 

[razgriz19]

If they incorporated a dorsal spine why didn't the test co formal fuel tanks for extended range. Maybe they have but not viable. Anyone she'd any light

There is no point in puting conformal fuel tanks. Engine does not produce enough power. Yeah you can free up potentially three stations for weapons, but with that much load it will become a pig in other words an easy target. And besides i don't think it would be able to use all of it's weapons stations anyway as it would exceed MTOW with full CFTs.
Plus more powerful engine means it needs more fuel to achieve the same range, so really CFT would just make it more heavy and less maneuverable.

 

[razgriz19]

1 extra seat and 1 extra pilot also take some of payload sir at least 200kg

Plus added dorsal spine with extra fuel, larger wing also means extra fuel weight.
This version would only be good for CAS, training, and ground strikes missions within Pakistan.

 

[razgriz19]

Do we really need yet another JF-17B thread???

Maulana sahab loves to open new threads

 

[The Diplomat]

Great. So how many dual seaters will be inducted?

PAF has not really been keen to order dual seater, if we look at our fleet. Is it because of costs or another reason?

 

[Imran Khan]

Plus added dorsal spine with extra fuel, larger wing also means extra fuel weight.
This version would only be good for CAS, training, and ground strikes missions within Pakistan.

training is most important point for having B model sir

 

[Trango Towers]

There is no point in puting conformal fuel tanks. Engine does not produce enough power. Yeah you can free up potentially three stations for weapons, but with that much load it will become a pig in other words an easy target. And besides i don't think it would be able to use all of it's weapons stations anyway as it would exceed MTOW with full CFTs.
Plus more powerful engine means it needs more fuel to achieve the same range, so really CFT would just make it more heavy and less maneuverable.

Where do you get engine doesntnproduce enough power. Thrust to weight ratio is 1:1.1 thats realky good. In Pakistan someone says engine is no good everyone says engine is no good. One buys a Carolla the whole country buys a corolla. Google thrust to weight ratio of modern fighters.

 

[razgriz19]

Where do you get engine doesntnproduce enough power. Thrust to weight ratio is 1:1.1 thats realky good. In Pakistan someone says engine is no good everyone says engine is no good. One buys a Carolla the whole country buys a corolla. Google thrust to weight ratio of modern fighters.

Read it again. I said engine does not produce enough power to have CFTs.
That thrust to weight ratio is for clean configuration. When you slap on some CFTs (heavy) at same time adding drag to the airframe, and if you use all the weapons station then tell me what the thrust to weight ratio is

 

[Trango Towers]

Read it again. I said engine does not produce enough power to have CFTs.
That thrust to weight ratio is for clean configuration. When you slap on some CFTs (heavy) at same time adding drag to the airframe, and if you use all the weapons station then tell me what the thrust to weight ratio is

As I said check TW ratio of f16