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JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

HD1 developed by China-based Guangdong Hongda Blasting Company. Hongda is currently participating in AirShowChina-2021. Back in 2018, it was reported by only Indian sources that Pakistan might procure HD-1, a direct competitor or better than BrahMos. An airborne ramjet super-sonic ship killer missile.

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Not a single launch video of HD 1 found on YouTube :(
Can you explain some parameters of HD 1 as according to @Dazzler Our supersonic missile also has DNA of HD 1.
Where it stands in front of Yakhont/Brahmose.
Wikipedia says it cruises at 15 km altitude.this is huge altitude for a cruise missile.is not it?
 
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Not a single launch video of HD 1 found on YouTube :(
Can you explain some parameters of HD 1 as according to @Dazzler Our supersonic missile also has DNA of HD 1.
Where it stands in front of Yakhont/Brahmose.
Wikipedia says it cruises at 15 km altitude.this is huge altitude for a cruise missile.is not it?

No details available except for media claims that HD-1 is superior to BrahMos and that's it. There is no doubt that Pakistan homegrown solution will have help from Friend(s) either for PN or PAF AAM.
 
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HD1 developed by China-based Guangdong Hongda Blasting Company. Hongda is currently participating in AirShowChina-2021. Back in 2018, it was reported by only Indian sources that Pakistan might procure HD-1, a direct competitor or better than BrahMos. An airborne ramjet super-sonic ship killer missile.

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At least an image of a real test ...

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Why HD 1 when we are working on our own supersonic cruise missile

The indigenous supersonic missile might well be a licence manufactured version of HD1 or similar Chinese missiles. Most Pakistani missiles are either local manufactured versions, or borrow heavily from existing Chinese designs.
 
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According to MoDP yearly book: we are developing supersonic cruise missile from 2016.so it is most likely an indigenously developed missile.
Why so much time for only liscence production?

Depends on whether it is based on a missile still in development in China, could be a joint collaboration.
 
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Depends on whether it is based on a missile still in development in China, could be a joint collaboration.
Why will they do a joint venture with us when they already have many supersonic missiles in service?
I still think our missile is indigenous.of course some help can be taken from them.if our missile resembles with HD 1 ,no problem.our engineers may have inspected many already present supersonic missile concepts and then they built on one of them.most likely our missile is completely indigenous.
 
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'Current' is the key word. The new R-77 have already been ordered and Astra is also on the way. Pakistan should contract the Russians for some of the new R-77s itself too so as to avoid any surprises.
Absolutely, I was surprised that the i-derby did not pan out as well for India. The new R-77 isn’t a concern but the Astra is untested/unknown which is the spoiler in the mix. However, whatever is known of all of these weapons Pakistani JF-17s and any future assets planned will continue to out-stick them thanks to the Chinese(who are planning for the US and so designing to that threat)
 
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Why will they do a joint venture with us when they already have many supersonic missiles in service?
I still think our missile is indigenous.of course some help can be taken from them.if our missile resembles with HD 1 ,no problem.our engineers may have inspected many already present supersonic missile concepts and then they built on one of them.most likely our missile is completely indigenous.

China wouldn't be collaborating with Pakistan for its benefit :) it could be a similar collaboration as the JF-17, China provides some R&D costs, Pakistan the other share, to develop a Pakistan-specific product with potential for export. Remember, China has it's own programmes that it will never export and develops products specifically for export purposes. Munitions are no different.
 
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