JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Aasimkhan]

its just 600 pounds. Thunder is carrying much heavier weapons

What about drag and aerodynamics?

 

[The Accountant]

What about drag and aerodynamics?

What about them ?

 

[Aasimkhan]

What about them ?

Isn't the hanging cargo dimension going to effect the performance ?

 

[Haris Ali2140]

PL21 is a large missile, I am not sure JF17 will be able to carry it or not and in which quantity.

PL-15 or PL-21???

 

[Aasimkhan]

PL-15 or PL-21???

I am talking about PL21 think we will need J11s or twin engine planes for such huge missiles.

 

[RangeMaster]

I am talking about PL21

Pl21 is under development, not operational.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

I am talking about PL21

Yes PL-21 is very long missile and JF-17 wont be able ro carry it.

 

[The Accountant]

Yes PL-21 is very long missile and JF-17 wont be able ro carry it.

Your claim ia baseless

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Your claim ia baseless

You may be right.

We can see CM-802 AK next to SD-10 which is not only heavier but also longer than SD-10.

 

[Nomad40]

I was not talking about you....
No solution to meteor It will be a suicidal mission....

 

[syed_yusuf]

Yes PL-21 is very long missile and JF-17 wont be able ro carry it.

not true u must be confusing it with PL17

 

[PakShaheen79]

Pl21 is under development, not operational.

PL-21 was cancelled. PL-20 is in development.

"This new ultra long-range active radar homing AAM (formerly known as PL-21?) has been under development which appears similar to British Meteor. It features an active radar seeker and an integrated ramjet/solid rocket motor with a single or twin variable belly air inlets. PL-20 might feature 4 small stabilizing fins behind the active radar seeker, a characteristics of Russian R-27/AA-10. Two-way datalink antennas may have been installed in the tail section for mid-course correction. The maximum range of PL-20 is estimated to be 400km, effective range is 320km. It was rumored that the first ground launch test took place in March 2010. Similar to PL-17, PL-20 could be carried by J-16 for long-range interception against enemy transport aircraft and AWACS. It is also expected to be carried internally by the new generation of stealth fighters including J-20 and FC-31."

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/missiles-iii.html

 

[Aasimkhan]

PL-21 was cancelled. PL-20 is in development.

"This new ultra long-range active radar homing AAM (formerly known as PL-21?) has been under development which appears similar to British Meteor. It features an active radar seeker and an integrated ramjet/solid rocket motor with a single or twin variable belly air inlets. PL-20 might feature 4 small stabilizing fins behind the active radar seeker, a characteristics of Russian R-27/AA-10. Two-way datalink antennas may have been installed in the tail section for mid-course correction. The maximum range of PL-20 is estimated to be 400km, effective range is 320km. It was rumored that the first ground launch test took place in March 2010. Similar to PL-17, PL-20 could be carried by J-16 for long-range interception against enemy transport aircraft and AWACS. It is also expected to be carried internally by the new generation of stealth fighters including J-20 and FC-31."

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/missiles-iii.html

The article doesn't say PL21 was cancelled, it says PL21 could have been renamed as PL20.

 

[LKJ86]

Via @奇圆JeffHoly from Weibo

 

[Umar Nazir]

why experts suddenly started to compare JF17 block-3 with one of the best 4.5 generation fighter jets. Even few giving edge to JF-17 against coming F-21 in Kashmir sector as shown in below link

As is often the case, it is not possible to determine on paper which device performs best in absolute terms. The F-21 is heavier, carries more weapons and has a better electronic warfare suite than the JF-17. At very high altitudes, however,it loses its advantage both against the JF-17 and against the Pakistani F-1 6C, especially if the latter are one day modernized with an EASA radar offered by Turkey. In addition, between two jets, each equipped with an AESA radar having around 1000 transmitter / receiver modules, the performance of the radar / missile pair will undoubtedly be much more decisive than that of the launcher. If the JF-17 Block Ill integrates the PL-1 5, and if the latter really carries to + 190km, it will then be necessary to see if the USA is ready to deliver the AIM-120D to India. In the meantime, the latter mainly intends to bet on the Rafale / METEOR couple, which has proven itself


https://www.meta-defense.fr/en/2020...e-vers-une-opposition-entre-chasseurs-legers/