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Love the way MastanKhan always starts his post with a salutation. Would do so in future.
I assure you that after going through operational duties, staff course, war course NDU etc. the PAF hierarchy is well versed in the intricacies of combat. You may choose not to believe them but you should never ignore them.
He who stays in the trenches will loose. Good offence is the best defence. The importance of reach is well known to all soldiers especially air warriors as reach is a characteristic of air power.
We have the capability of reach through cruise missile and stand off weapons. If required deep strikes can also be carried out but would be high attrition missions. JH7B costs a lot and does not enhance capability significantly
I have read your posts, all 13 of them (hence the delay) I have also seen and been briefed about this aircraft at Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation. Would maintain that it is a luxury that PAF cannot afford at present.
Hi,
The cruise missiles and surface to surface missiles will not do the job. And I appreciate you reading up on the threads.
It is all about having strike capability at the enemy's weakest position----at enemy's flank---at a place where it hurts the most.
As I stated earlier----provinces of eastern Punjab will be sacrificed---india cares less abut them. It is all about Maharashtra and down below---that is the soft flank and gut of india---for that you need heavies with deep strike capabilities.
It was only Mohammad Ali who mastered the technique of Rope a Dope-----and none could do it again for the last 40 years or so.
The cost of the JH7B s no different than the cost of the Blk2-3 JF17----but it gives a massive punch for the dollar that is paid----.
As for the Paf---it has been hijacked by fighter mafia----so when they see a heavy bomber / fighter---they just go numb and look the different way.
See---this problem is in the U S also---when a navy guy gets on top---he only wants to build air craft carriers---when an air force fighter jock gets on the top---he wants to have more fighter and hates the bombers----Sir---this DISEASE is nothing new----all the armed forced of the world suffer from this delusion----the issue here is not to be taken by those who claim that their chicken hawk would take down the enemy's mighty eagle.
A surgeon only thinks that a removal of the body part is the answer----and an ironsmith thinks that the hammer is the only tool needed.
As I have stated often----to whatever it may count to---JF17 is the best bang for the buck but it is the bang at the lowest tiers of strength----. When the enemy is 3 times the size---you also need sledge hammers to clear the way thru----.
We need a pneumatic hammer to do the job---the JF17 is a hand held chisel and hammer.
As Clauswitz stated that wars must have political solutions----similarly---your weapons systems must have the enemy seriously concerned about the damage they can do for it to make threats.
Our political scenario would have been totally different if we had ordered 3 sqdrn's of Rafales in 2003. It was after 2005 and the cancellation of the 72 f16's that india changed its stance.
The bottom line is---that the mindset of defending Pakistani air space is that of a failed strategy---because the air force is clueless to what to do----it is fighting from a position of weakness from the start.
In the 80's---the Mirage F1 would have done the same job as the F16 was doing----. The air force screwed up by buying the F16---because it left its flank open----it allowed the Indians to buy the Mirage 2K----. If Pakistan would have gone for the mirage 2kinstead of the f16----it would have been a different game.
Sir---sometimes it is not necessary to buy the number one---sometimes the number two is as deadly and strategically more important.
So---please don't tell me about the strategy and the intellect of the PAF. This organization has failed to do its duty----. 14 years it has been---its job was to find the air superiority aircraft needed to take charge of the air space.
They cry about the sanctions----they could have gone out and procured the used Mirage F1's in the 90's---if cost was a problem---. Then used M2k's were available.
Surface to surface missiles and cruise missiles do not give the strength and the punch needed to stop and enemy at the borders----.
It s the same delusion that the army generals had at Kargil that shoulder launched sam's will win the air war for them----.
JF17 is not going to make much of a difference unless complimented with a heavy----. Like the F16's with the F15's.
