JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[Manticore]

not sure if this is authentic... composite layout in blk1

 

[ice_man]

Well hellloooo!!! does SD-10 ring a bell? it has already been integrated with Thunder .... Also as said by the senior members numerous times, PAF is more than happy with KLJ-7 which in all likelyhood be used for Blk-2 as well. So for the next 100 or so jets, that or a slightly improved version will be the radar.

Brother SD-10 has NOT repeat NOT BEEN INTEGRATED with the Thunder yet!!! the whole AVIONICS suite of the Thunder hasn't been finalized yet!

 

[Shahzad Sultan]

Well any news regarding PAF participation in upcoming Paris Airshow 2011

 

[bc040400065]

not sure if this is authentic... composite layout in blk1

It read "under air intake station".... So does this mean that JFT now has 8 stations and not 7.???

 

[air marshal]

Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force along with the Ex-Squadron Commanders during Re-Equipment Ceremony of No. 26 Squadron of Pakistan Air Force.

 

[Dazzler]

I dnt want AESA in block II bt

IRST
1 more hardpoint
higher thrust engine
increase in payload
and a radar with atleast 150-160km range
and raad integration

these thngs are important to be done

current radar range is 160 km as per my source...

 

[Dazzler]

It read "under air intake station".... So does this mean that JFT now has 8 stations and not 7.???

This pic was posted by a PAKDEF member Mr. Asif Amin IIRC, composite layout is the same in current batch as highlighted in pic, intake hardpoint will be added from next batch onwards.

 

[Tempest II]

current radar range is 160 km as per my source...

For what size target? 160 km for how many square metres? I will assume 5 sqm

Thanks

 

[Manticore]

if the forward fuselage is being worked on, does it mean that aesa radar modifications are also being taking place?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Does anyone know if the Thunder comes with a HMDS as standard?? If so what one? If not are there any plans for one in the future?

+ what other AC in the PAF have HMDS right NOW?

 

[razgriz19]

Does anyone know if the Thunder comes with a HMDS as standard?? If so what one? If not are there any plans for one in the future?

+ what other AC in the PAF have HMDS right NOW?

thunder will be equiped with one probably of a chinese origin...
and as far as i kno, i dont think there are any aircrafts with HMDS

 

[waq]

any possibility of a twin seater version of the thunder in the future?

 

[farhan_9909]

any possibility of a twin seater version of the thunder in the future?

Only Pakistan has funded the twin seater variant R&D of JFT becoz China was nt intrested in twin seater variant of JFT

dnt know when will it come bt it is in development

 

[SBD-3]

thunder will be equiped with one probably of a chinese origin...
and as far as i kno, i dont think there are any aircrafts with HMDS

AFAIK, Block 52 have come with JHMCS
F-7PGs use a Chinese HMD (I think TK-14 or a more advanced varient which is being used on J-7Gs of PLAAF)

This is the new generation HMD over TK-14, i suspect

furthermore, an interesting thing

The predominant PLAAF SRAAM is currently the PL-8 for fighters such as J-7, J-8 and J-10 (and FC-1). However, since the 1989 Paris Air Show, China ’s Luoyang Electro Optical Center has been marketing the capable PL-9C SRAAM with technologies imported from the Russian AA-11 Archer. This is equipped with an advanced seeker that offers a 60-degree off-bore-sight capability in addition to a helmet mounted sighting system that tracks pilot head position in order to target weapons. It has been a mystery why the PLAAF never adopted the PL-9C in large numbers but continues to improve existing stocks of PL-8s. Part of the reason might be that the PLAAF does not want to field three different types of SRAAM (PL-5, PL-8, PL-9). Also, most of the PLAAF radars are based on Israeli designs; for example, the J-7G’s KLJ-6E radar is based on Elta EL/M2001 radar. The PL-8 used with it is based on Israeli’s RAFAEL Armament Development Authority’s Python-3 missile, while there might be problems integrating the Russian-based PL-9 with an Israeli-based radar. This is not only an issue with the J-7, as later models of the J-8’s KLJ-1 radar are also based on Israeli Elta EL/M 2035 multi-mode pulse Doppler radar. Finally, in 2004 the PL-8B’s seeker was reported to have helmet mounted sighting capabilities and the recent photos confirm this development, which may also explain the PLAAF’s decision not to adopt the PL-9.

and

PL-9 IR-guided missile was first developed in the late 80s based on PL-8/Python-3 technology and is for export only. It has an all-aspect InSb seeker and a radio fuze. Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum. Speed is Mach 3.5 and load is 40g. Its forward control fins look similar to those of AIM-9L (double delta). The latest variant of PL-9 is called PL-9C with improved multi-band IR seeker and a new programmable digital processor giving it a greater IRCCM capability and higherkilling probablity. Here two PL-9C AAMs are seen being carried by a F-7PG figher to be delivered to PAF. PL-9C is expected to be the standard air-to-air weapon for the new F-7NI/BG/NM series exported to Nigirea, Bangladesh and Namibia as well. Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force

so it is should also clear some doubts why PAF is still confident in pitting its F-7s against top notch fighters

 

[farhan_9909]

any possibility of a twin seater version of the thunder in the future?

Only Pakistan has funded the twin seater variant R&D of JFT becoz China was nt intrested in twin seater variant of JFT

dnt know when will it come bt it is in development