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seems like an edited video. could be fake.
also Raad 1 had 350 Km range with 1080 Kg total weight
Raad 2 has 550 Km range with 1120 Kg weight.
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seems like an edited video. could be fake.
Hi,
Okay---if you insist---I assumed anyone educated in college level physics would understand what the problem would be---.
It is not a problem mounting the missiles---the problem starts when one missile is launched---the physics was already there---but now the physical aspects of sudden release of a heavy weight from one wing is release becomes obvious---while the counter weight is still there---.
Has anyone studied the issue between weight and counter weights---when one weight is release what happens to the other weight---. Remember you have many other forces acting upon the aircraft and the missile---.
Now please start thinking for yourself and if there is a problem---we can further address it---.
Keep in mind that the JF17 is a very small aircraft---the smaller the aircraft---the more difficult the adjustments---.
Basic center of gravity principle will suffice to understand. Easiest way to explain, do a wire act and hold 1x20kg bag on each hand held out; release one and see what happens to you!. but in aircraft it is even more complex with x,y,z planes to worry about.
On a light weight aircraft; even a 250kg release will invoke an opposing force
I have read that interview..
it clearly states "we would like to carry 1 or PERFERABLY 2 fuel tanks with one being in the center..."
Preferable load for routine mission will obviously thus involve one antiship missle for extended loitering and coverage ..you automatically cherry picked and implied this means that jf17 cannot carry 2 antiship missles with 1 fuel tank which has been mentioned in same Interview ...
Same reason why BVR load out would be 2 with 2 fuel tanks...range and loitering
We call it selection bias...
Conveniently ignoring PAF own documentary showing it flying with 2 antiship missiles
i guess thats why Nato always fires two Missiles at once.
same is the case when PAF releases 500 KG weapons both sides at once from F-16 C/D
and both Fuel tanks dropped by israeli Airforce F-16s on multiple occasions deep inside enemy territory. they release both wing pylons at the same time.
Also Raad 1 Raad 2, Babur air launch cruise missiles don't need to aquire target in advance. they can be feed information mid flight they just need to be launched in general direction of a target and co-ordinated or signatures can b posted in later on.
after all these missiles have 550 KM+ ranges.
It might have been, but just pointing out the fact that it is possible for JF-17 carry Ra'ad assuming the post is correct about other aspect.
However, the question is not about carrying the missile but what happens after release, now if on one side you suddenly lose 1100kg while other side still has that weight so how do you solve that problem? Naturally it will tip towards the heavier side without counter.
Damn, REK and Raptor done what hyper dooper and overhyped shipice failed to do.
I think that it’s not about the weapon’s performance. Either InAF had made mistakenly entered wrong GPS coordinates into the Spice 2000 guidance unit or, most likely, they did not have the correct elevation information of the target. Another possibility could be the flight path programmed for the bomb’s attack leg was too shallow during the attack phase due to low hanging clouds. Also, the poor thermal conditions could have made the EO/IR guidance used by the bomb in the terminal phase very difficult. Together, it could have resulted in a particularly challenging targeting scenario. It might very well also have been a combination of the above stated possibilities. Either way, it’s prudent to not to underestimate the performance of a potent weapon like Spice 2000. If GIDS can develop REK for Mk8x series bombs, I am sure IAI/Rafael with much wider intellectual pool (Israelis are brilliant in signal processing) and resources are able to deliver something much better. I know this as it is also my area of research, and many top scientists in Statistical Signal processing/sensor fusion are of Jewish extraction.Damn, REK and Raptor done what hyper dooper and overhyped shipice failed to do.
Weight isnt the issue seems its ground clearance but more importantly raad is simply not build for jf17..by the time mirages go next gen cruise missle will be built..and mirages arent going anywhere till 2030 and possibly 2035800 liters drop weight with fuel is 672 kg than 1100 litres would be around 924kh jf inner wing pylons and and centerline pylon are classified as 1000 plus kg per specs, not shore if that mean 1100 kg ? But possible I think it has more do priorities as Sd-10 and c-803 were priority than RAad
last two 23 March parade statements RAad is cleared on all /multiple paf aircraft and it was speculation that last launch was for jf
Can someone tell
Either way, it’s prudent to not to underestimate the performance of a potent weapon like Spice 2000. If GIDS can develop REK for Mk8x series bombs, I am sure IAI/Rafael with much wider intellectual pool (Israelis are brilliant in signal processing) and resources are able to deliver something much better. .
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Its been speculated that Thunder guided Takbir or REK(range extension kit )
MoDP Book for last fiscal year also reveals development of IREK which I guess will have more range & capability as compare to current version. @Oscar @messiach @Bilal Khan (Quwa) or others any thoughts?