Jerusalem attack: Four dead after lorry driver rams soldiers

[Khafee]

The "Greater Israel" plan does not exist.
Certainly right wing Israelis would like control over the full West Bank,
preferably without any Palestinians, but that is about it.
That is not the Greater Israel as described in conpiracy theories.
Left wing Israelis have been prepared to negotiate a deal which seems fair a few times,
but Palestinians have always rejected a compromise.

Palestinians are allowed to fight back within the limits of the Geneva Convention obviously.

The Israel of Theodore Herzl (1904) and of Rabbi Fischmann (1947)

1) In his Complete Diaries, Vol. II. p. 711, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, says that the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”

2) Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry on 9 July 1947: “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”

from Oded Yinon’s “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties”

Published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. Belmont, Massachusetts, 1982. Special Document No. 1. (ISBN 0-937694-56-8)

 

[GR!FF!N]

Now back to setting reality straight, again there is no equivalency here. ISIS is a terrorist group in Iraq involved in civil war that uses car bombs to target other Iraqi civilians. Taliban is considered terror group to some, when it targets civilians, that is terrorism. A individual Palestinian in occupied Palestinian territory targeting foreign troops, is an act of self defense. You can't do mental gymnastics around that.

Really???

You can defend Intifada as somewhat unconventional attack.But these???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks

Are these also "Fighting Occupation Force" as well??Or an "Act of self defense"??Carrying out bombing on Civilian buses,market,street???

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

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The Israel of Theodore Herzl (1904) and of Rabbi Fischmann (1947)

1) In his Complete Diaries, Vol. II. p. 711, Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, says that the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”

2) Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry on 9 July 1947: “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”

from Oded Yinon’s “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties”

Published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, Inc. Belmont, Massachusetts, 1982. Special Document No. 1. (ISBN 0-937694-56-8)

Yes that is well known propaganda.
Theodor Herzl proposed this as a negotiation position.
It is a well known technique to make outrageous demands initially in a negotiation,
because that means you get more when You meet "half-way".
It is not something which is relevant in todays political situation.
Rabbi Fischman was asked what the "promised land" was by an Indian and replied.
That does not mean that this was a claim.
Personally he claimed he would be happy with just a part of Israel to form a state.

Meanwhile, Israel has evacuated Sinai (twice), Lebanon and Gaza,
and occupies West Bank and Golan, but have only annexed Eastern Jerusalem,
which even that has not been recognized by anyone.

Even if they actually wanted a Greater Israel, they do not have the resources or demographics to succeed.

Israel wants other things much more.
1. They want a state with Jewish majority
2. They want a democratic state
3. Right wing Israelis want control over the West Bank
4. They want to keep Golan, for strategic depth in the ongoing war against Syria.

Greater Israel simply does not make sense with those priorities.
For Greater Israel to be viable, the territories need to be emptied,
and when empty, what would Israel do with it?

Israel is not even trying to empty the West Bank at the moment.

In short, Greater Israel is BS.

 

[Politico]

this attack is an example of genetic cleansing. the dumb attacker drives a truck laden with explosives into a military checkpoint in israel. 4 israeli soldiers die. the attacker's entire family is now subject to arrest and possible death...his genes gets wiped out