Japanese Warship Kaga is becoming an aircraft carrier

[huanghong]

Cope

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lol

 

[beijingwalker]

@beijingwalker

Let us be honest. Japan would smoke China if it ever came to a military situation.

LoL, This exactly shows how honest you are.

 

[gambit]

Whenever tragedy strikes, I'd suggest that you don't laugh at it, since it could come back and bite you in the a$$, karma is a b!tch. Watch out little man.

If you make fun of Chinese tragedies, they complains to the admin staff as 'racism'.

 

[That Guy]

@F-22Raptor @Hamartia Antidote

@beijingwalker

Let us be honest. Japan would smoke China if it ever came to a military situation.

In the past? Sure. Japan was a powerful empire for a reason.

In this era? China would probably flatten Japan, so long as Japan doesn't get outside help.

 

[LegionnairE]

In the past? Sure. Japan was a powerful empire for a reason.

In this era? China would probably flatten Japan, so long as Japan doesn't get outside help.

you greatly underestimate JMSDF.

Why would China want to equip an aircraft with a combat radius that is only two-thirds of a normal combat aircraft?

lol what are you talking about. F35 has incredible range,

While Flankers are very capable when they operate from land, they have awful range and payload capacity taking off from STOBAR ships

Even F-18E is much more preferable

I still think Japan should get some TB3s from Turkey it would be great help at detecting naval targets, making F35s job much easier

 

[That Guy]

you greatly underestimate JMSDF.

I don't actually. The JDF in its entirety is one of the best fighting forces in the world....but...

It's also highly underequipped, and lacks experience. It's pacifist constitution has basically handicapped it, which has made it so that Japan basically has very limited offensive capabilities.

Even this carrier was a compromise and isn't a "true" carrier.

 

[LegionnairE]

I don't actually. The JDF in its entirety is one of the best fighting forces in the world....but...

It's also highly underequipped, and lacks experience. It's pacifist constitution has basically handicapped it, which has made it so that Japan basically has very limited offensive capabilities.

Even this carrier was a compromise and isn't a "true" carrier.

On the contrary, JMSDF represents a naval tradition going back to Meiji restoration. China is the up and coming underdog here.

Even the word "carrier" starting to get used is huge. It means that things are about to change. And we know from Pearl Harbor what they are capable of.

 

[IblinI]

On the contrary, JMSDF represents a naval tradition going back to Meiji restoration. China is the up and coming underdog here.

Even the word "carrier" starting to get used is huge. It means that things are about to change. And we know from Pearl Harbor what they are capable of.

If you wanna talked about history and tradition?
Come back to reality, when your era is gone, its gone...Japanese is now going back to where they supposed to be during the past 2000 years, there is nothing a few ship or tanks can saved it.

 

[That Guy]

On the contrary, JMSDF represents a naval tradition going back to Meiji restoration. China is the up and coming underdog here.

Even the word "carrier" starting to get used is huge. It means that things are about to change. And we know from Pearl Harbor what they are capable of.

By that logic China's military tradition goes all the way back to the three kingdom's period. Or how about this: the Iranian military should be far better than the US military because the Iranian military tradition stretches back thousands of years.

Modern Japan has been severely gimped, and they lack experienced soldiers and experience on modern battlefields. Their WW2 experience is not gonna help much in the opening phases of a modern war against China.

And once again, Japan also lack offensive capabilities and that is not gonna change any time soon without seriously amending the Japanese constitution. They also lack a lot of modern hardware due to a severe lack of funding caused by Japanese public distrust of their own military.

 

[beijingwalker]

On the contrary, JMSDF represents a naval tradition going back to Meiji restoration. China is the up and coming underdog here.

This "tradition"? wake up, it's 2023 now.

 

[KampfAlwin]

I don't actually. The JDF in its entirety is one of the best fighting forces in the world....but...

It's also highly underequipped, and lacks experience. It's pacifist constitution has basically handicapped it, which has made it so that Japan basically has very limited offensive capabilities.

Even this carrier was a compromise and isn't a "true" carrier.

Not to mention their dwindling recruitment numbers. They’re literally running out of potential sailors so much so that they have to automate their new ships to reduce crew count, which I’m sure comes with penalties.

 

[LegionnairE]

This "tradition"? wake up, it's 2023 now.

The moment their way of life is threatened this will change drastically.

We're talking about a navy that's been operating capital ships for over a hundred years and defeating major powers vs a navy that only acquired capital ships very recently.

They did all of this with %1 of their GDP, once they start spending %3-4 you can imagine how it will look like.

 

[beijingwalker]

The moment their way of life is threatened this will change drastically.

We're talking about a navy that's been operating capital ships for over a hundred years and defeating major powers vs a navy that only acquired capital ships very recently.

They did all of this with %1 of their GDP, once they start spending %3-4 you can imagine how it will look like.

They had been neutered for over 70 years, now the national phyche had long changed, their youth are more into cosplays and cartoons now. Japan's economy is declining fast and now is a net trade deficit country with GDP only a fraction of China's, you'll be so optimistic are their future trend.
Now Japan doesn't even have the fund and resouces to build a medium size jetliner

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[LegionnairE]

They had been neutered for over 70 years, now the national phyche had long changed, their youth are more into cosplays and cartoons now. Japan's economy is declining fast and now is a net trade deficit country with GDP only a fraction of China's, you'll be so optimistic are their future trend.
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Russia thought the same things about Ukraine... that their economy is small, that they lack national identity, their youth is unmotivated etc.

All of that stops mattering very very quickly.

 

[Englishman]

Really?

There won't be a Japan left as not enough of them are having babies.

Guess that's what anime and aspiring to be an obedient salaryman does to you...