Japan, Philippines to Combat China’s Assertive Stance at Sea

[Genesis]

You cannot use that argument to create a valid comparison between the USN and the PLAN.

- WW II was the first time fleets fought against each other without seeing each other. That is not to say that such engagements will never occur again, no one is that bold in prediction, but that given the high value and capabilities of air power, it is remote that fleets will ever face each other in line-of-sight (LOS) combat, and when one side can wield an aircraft carrier fleet but the other cannot, the probability of such an engagement is even more remote simply because no one is that foolish. Suicidal, perhaps.

- The USN is ten times the expeditionary force of any sea going country. The PLAN is a young navy. Not trying to be insulting but to compare the PLAN against the USN is like comparing a domesticated cat against a wild tiger.

- If the US has not fought a major sea engagement since WW II, it is not for lack of will but simply for lack of peer opponents. Like it or not, not even the Soviet Navy could have taken on the USN back in the Cold War, and the PLAN today is not even half the Soviet Navy then.

that was my thinking as well, hence the next sentence.

Your carrier operations is crazy good, at least within the next 20 years, I doubt we can catch up a sufficient amount.to be able to defeat you without having access to our airports and you have no airports what so ever.

We will see how the world works, 15 years ago I was still impressed by the type 53. 15 years later even the 52D seems not that much for the PLAN.

Decades will pass before a true opponent will show up before you, we will see how the world economy works.

 

[C130]

Right, muslim Extremists will be a big problem in today`s world.
Yet we are still fight each other, leave space for muslim Extremists like IS to spread all over the world..

yeah while we are fighting. IS head choppers will be busy taking down countries that supply most the worlds oil.
what are you going to do with no oil to run your war machine let alone your economy, hans.

 

[hans]

The computer age is about to fade. The figure is shrinking.
We are transferring to mobile age, mobile phone and pad will replace the computer.
China has a lot of investment on that.

making billions in profit every year baaaaaad come on man come onnnnn now.

and I'm surprise China hasn't bought AMD and invested billions to compete with Intel.

 

[C130]

The computer age is about to fade. The figure is shrinking.
We are transferring to mobile age, mobile phone and pad will replace the computer.
China has a lot of investment on that.

you might be right.
but i feel that is still a decade and half away at the least.

really depends if any breakthroughs happen for the PC to stop bottlenecks in performance

 

[hans]

Don`t worry.
If US cannot solve IS, China will do that in the name of UN..
No oil output from middle east will be a big problem for all over the world, not China only
The world will unite to protect the world economy..

yeah while we are fighting. IS head choppers will be busy taking down countries that supply most the worlds oil.
what are you going to do with no oil to run your war machine let alone your economy, hans.

 

[C130]

Don`t worry.
If US cannot solve IS, China will do that in the name of UN..
No oil output from middle east will be a big problem for all over the world, not China only
The world will unite to protect the world economy..

enlighten me. how would China handle IS

 

[NiceGuy]

if you are relying on other countries to build your economy, you will fail..
China has lots of domestics company that can compete with JP, SK.
VN don`t. It is VN that are rely on low labor cost...
The market, basic facility, people are all no match for China, Frankly.

First step: beat China in funiture market- done. Many poor Chinese losing jobs coz they cant compete the price with VN in this market .

Second step: beat China in high tech product market- Coming, more high tech SK-JP-US companies r shifting from China to VN.

Just wait, more funs r coming

 

[hans]

The computer will shrink but last for many years.

The problem is mobility of PC is no match with smart phones,
yet performance of smart phones are getting more and more stronger.
Current mobile phones are better in performance that PC 5 years ago.
And it is sufficient for most daily application.
I guess developing countries like India will skip the computer age and directly go to mobile age

you might be right.
but i feel that is still a decade and half away at the least.

really depends if any breakthroughs happen for the PC to stop bottlenecks in performance

force them to believe in communism!
just kidding.

Just send army and economy to Iraq.
Army to restore order, economy to make it last.
US usually only send bombers, not economy that can bring jobs..

enlighten me. how would China handle IS

 

[NiceGuy]

Come on, Intel WAS a great company.
But now in smartphone and pad ages, Intel is doing poorly..
Computers is a shrinking market..
And other company moved from China to VN are suffering from lack of water/power, labor strike, rusted government, etc..

VN just increase 2 notches in Global competitive index..... and more notches in the future

 

[hans]

Are you kidding?
Poor VN people can make money because of China demand for furniture wood.
VN is wood supplier only...
Also China can produce a lot of high tech stuff with Chinese company?
What you can build without outside company?

First step: beat China in furniture market- done. Many poor Chinese losing jobs coz they cant compete the price with VN in this market .
Second step: beat China in high tech product market- Coming, more high tech SK-JP-US companies r shifting from China to VN.Just wait, more funs r coming

 

[C130]

The computer will shrink but last for many years.

The problem is mobility of PC is no match with smart phones,
yet performance of smart phones are getting more and more stronger.
Current mobile phones are better in performance that PC 5 years ago.
And it is sufficient for most daily application.
I guess developing countries like India will skip the computer age and directly go to mobile age



force them to believe in communism!
just kidding.

Just send army and economy to Iraq.
Army to restore order, economy to make it last.
US usually only send bombers, not economy that can bring jobs..

seems to easy.

 

[hans]

Still far away from China..
BTW, you are from south or north of VN?

VN just increase 2 notches in Global competitive index..... and more notches in the future

 

[NiceGuy]

Are you kidding?
Poor VN people can make money because of China demand for furniture wood.
VN is wood supplier only...
Also China can produce a lot of high tech stuff with Chinese company?
What you can build without outside company?

U just like a frog in the well, we've beaten u in this market for 10 years already.

Vietnam's furniture boom could hurt U.S. makers

Indeed, with goods nearly 10 percent cheaper than those made in neighboring China, Vietnam is being courted by U.S. furniture and retail executives looking for inexpensive desks, chairs and household sets made from pine, cajuput or rubber woods.

Vietnam's furniture boom could hurt U.S. makers - Houston Chronicle

 

[hans]

Actually it is not difficult. Balance the power, make life not hard and the chaos will be over.
US just don`t want to do it because it will cost money, rather than making money..

seems to easy.

 

[BoQ77]

seems to easy.

I found it's little useful to use smartphone for working, except emails checking.
For office use, home entertainment ..., there's no way to replace PC, laptop by smartphone, tablets.