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I frown everytime I see a discussion on economy using household income. This data is commonly used by people who like to deceive and they do that by not telling people the size of the household. As the result, you would see funny trend like per-capita growth being much faster than per-household growth or vice versa. Which data really shows the growth of the wealth?

Depends on what's your objective.

Household income is usually used to measure general socioeconomic well-being of the people. (Society-based.)

Per-capita is used more commonly to measure the health of the economy. (Economic-based.)
 
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Depends on what's your objective.

Household income is usually used to measure general socioeconomic well-being of the people. (Society-based.)
Again, without the size of household, the data on household income cannot be used for comparison. You cannot compare two fractions with only the nominators but not the denominators.
 
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Again, without the size of household, the data on household income cannot be used for comparison. You cannot compare two fractions with only the nominators but not the denominators.

By per capita do you mean per person or per household member?
 
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Oh I thought you meant per person as in the whole population like GDP per capita.
it doesn't really matter much when you compare two countries. you can compare GDP per capita of the whole population or the income per person in each household. these are all comparable. household income is not comparable without knowing the household size in question.
 
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Lets do it slowly.

Dont worry, I am just at the beginning of showing why the bottom 10% is far worse of as time progress and why Singapore increasingly deserve a Mao Zedong.

While bottom 10% household income increased by 54%, property in Singapore at this period skyrocket by close to 100%.

The poor become poorer. And the rich sit idly watching asset rising faster than income so that they go ahead of everyone by sleeping at home.

Singapore rich is really a bunch of parasite.

Meanwhile GOS celebrate such runaway inflation and plundering by misinterpreting it as economic growth.

Definitely I will be volunteering if Mao and Stalin shows up here.


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And many other developed countries saw stagnant or even negative real growth for their middle and lower income. 54% in 10 years time is bad for a developed country? It's bad because it didn't rise as fast as the rich?

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Not true. That's income per household member, and poorer households have larger families. You do know that which race (or religion which you so despise, judging from your previous posts) dominates the bottom 10%. They tend to have more kids even though they can't afford it.

Here's the household income:
http://www.tablebuilder.singstat.gov.sg/publicfacing/createSpecialTable.action?refId=15437

1st - 10th: 1,937
41st - 50th: 9,331
91st - 100th: 31,806

So the top 10% earned around 16x of the bottom 10%, not 24x like you claimed.

What you're looking at is income Gini coefficient before taxes and transfers. But you should've frame the argument to after taxes and transfers since many countries are worse than us if we look just at the top/bottom 10% ratio before taxes and transfer.

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Other countries have lower Gini coefficient than us through heavy taxation and subsidies.

However what is unique about Singapore's socioeconomic model can't be reflected here.

Households in the lowest income quintile (20%) in Singapore have on average more than $200,000 of equity in their homes. This is unmatched by any other country, but our capital grants do not show up in the Gini coefficients.

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Singapore is an asset-owning democracy where even our poor have assets and their children can grow up in decent neighborhoods and schools, so that they aren't denied the opportunity to advance in life just because they are born poor.

LKY believed in asset grants which creates a sense of ownership among the people so that Singaporeans don't believe that the world owes you a living. Not the welfarism which has created a huge sense of entitlement in the West with the poor waiting for handouts.

It's the pride and dignity that you earn your success through your own efforts, even for the poor.

The PAP would have lost power long ago if Singapore is such a miserable place to live or if your ordinary Singaporeans are feeling unfairly exploited by the 'elites' like you described.
 
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Lets do it slowly.

Dont worry, I am just at the beginning of showing why the bottom 10% is far worse of as time progress and why Singapore increasingly deserve a Mao Zedong.

While bottom 10% household income increased by 54%, property in Singapore at this period skyrocket by close to 100%.

The poor become poorer. And the rich sit idly watching asset rising faster than income.

Singapore rich is really a bunch of parasite.

Meanwhile GOS celebrate such runaway inflation as economic growth.

Definitely I will be volunteering if Mao and Stalin come in and recruit us to fight.


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now this is another thing I often have trouble with: the bottom 10% or some other percentage. who are the bottom 10%? what are their age brackets? are the bottom 10% now the same people as the bottom 10% 10 years ago? It is often misleading when an article gives an impression that the bottom 10% are some distinct group of people.
 
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Lets do it slowly.

Dont worry, I am just at the beginning of showing why the bottom 10% is far worse of as time progress and why Singapore increasingly deserve a Mao Zedong.

While bottom 10% household income increased by 54%, property in Singapore at this period skyrocket by close to 100%.

The poor become poorer. And the rich sit idly watching asset rising faster than income so that they go ahead of everyone by sleeping at home.

Singapore rich is really a bunch of parasite.

Meanwhile GOS celebrate such runaway inflation and plundering by misinterpreting it as economic growth.

Definitely I will be volunteering if Mao and Stalin shows up here.


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Yet Singapore is still one of the more affordable cities for properties, and that is EXCLUDING massive capital grants from the government. If included, it would be one of the most affordable for a major developed city.

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And guess what? Home ownership in Singapore is above 90%. Most Singaporeans benefit when there's a property boom. That is why even the bottom 20% of households have an average of $200K equity. They share the fruits of economic growth too.

Would home ownership rate be above 90% if the prices are so unaffordable? I've shown you that even if you earn $1K, you can own a modest flat of 45sqm because of massive capital grants from the government.

http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120303-331368.html


Definitely I will be volunteering if Mao and Stalin shows up here.

So you think we would be better off if we are communist? Go ask the Chinese members here if they want to return to Mao era. :lol:

Crap, I shouldn't have wasted my time in replying you if I knew you are delusional to the point of wishing communism. Envy is the ulcer of the soul indeed. Cya. :lol:

now this is another thing I often have trouble with: the bottom 10% or some other percentage. who are the bottom 10%? what are their age brackets? are the bottom 10% now the same people as the bottom 10% 10 years ago? It is often misleading when an article gives an impression that the bottom 10% are some distinct group of people.

Indeed. Some of the bottom 10% may even be rich because of temporary unemployment of a household member. It's a fluid group which fluctuates year to year.

Note the footnote at the bottom:

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Oh no, not all those Japani Guryas!! (Japanese Dolls)
 
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Anywhere is affordable compared to HK. Is the property bloom or the result of monetary inflation, that trickle it up to the elites?

To your ignorant, Chinese on forum are cherishing the memories of Mao era, and elites including Bo Xilai has been capitalizing it. A lot of poor would want to go back, given the resentment against the elites.

http://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/china/2014/09/140908_maozedong_nostalgia

Taken a country as a system 90% will have home ownership so long as one return to their village and stay with parents. What is the big deal?

Singapore has achieve that during the PAP old guards era when housings are comparatively cheap, and so long as children do not move out, you get very high home ownership. Of course in paper these poor people sits on a inflated asset.

The elites put shyt on the people face and call them whatever names or "let them eat cake". Then came Mao and Stalin, or French Revolution type, and the elites cringe when in front of guillotine.

Nothing is new under the sun.

Yet Singapore is still one of the more affordable cities for properties, and that is EXCLUDING massive capital grants from the government. If included, it would be one of the most affordable for a major developed city.

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And guess what? Home ownership in Singapore is above 90%. Most Singaporeans benefit when there's a property boom. That is why even the bottom 20% of households have an average of $200K equity. They share the fruits of economic growth too.

Would home ownership rate be above 90% if the prices are so unaffordable? I've shown you that even if you earn $1K, you can own a modest flat of 45sqm because of massive capital grants from the government.

http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120303-331368.html




So you think we would be better off if we are communist? Go ask the Chinese members here if they want to return to Mao era. :lol:

Crap, I shouldn't have wasted my time in replying you if I knew you are delusional to the point of wishing communism. Envy is the ulcer of the soul indeed. Cya. :lol:



Indeed. Some of the bottom 10% may even be rich because of temporary unemployment of a household member. It's a fluid group which fluctuates year to year.

Note the footnote at the bottom:

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Lux you should have had a family with 2 children by now. Had you believe me many years ago. It's night time, and you should be producing children. SG apartment maybe too expensive. But you live in cheap south east asia. Die for your country? You can't even xxxx for your country!
 
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Lux you should have had a family with 2 children by now. Had you believe me many years ago. It's night time, and you should be producing children. SG apartment maybe too expensive. But you live in cheap south east asia. Die for your country? You can't even xxxx for your country!

Who is Lux.

Cheap SE Asia... you got to discount Singapore.
 
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Who is Lux.

A previous member who share similar ideals with you. Even the diction and unique choice of words (elites, Islamofascist, Hindutva etc) are similar. But too bad he got perma-banned for excessive trolling.

Geez, I wonder if he had created another dupe to troll in this forum again. He must be so smart since he's hiding so well that none of us can tell right away.

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In future only Sunni Islamofascist, Hindutva, or blacks will want to come.

Their elites are struggling in dilemma and they knew the problem as well. Either continue the Islamofascist way and poison the people, chasing out the progressive Chinese who are instrumental in moving the country forward, or Malay modernize themselves.

Their elites are not those ISIS type despite preaching Islamo fascism. All went to good western university or receive best western education locally.

But modernizing malay society would mean that elites need to lost many of their privileges as people can no longer be so easily fooled.

The problem of HK is that she refuse to follow Maoism of 分田分地真忙. And CPC today always work with the elites, again she forgotten Mao's warning against 脱离群众。

In the interim, time, just let Malay Islamo wait forever and I hope Allah will rain down Audi, 72 virgin from heaven without a single effort.

You probably have more lucky waiting for his Hindutva policies, or something like Hindi supremacism, anti murder cow-ism, dalit coverts no goodies-ism.
 
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A previous member who share similar ideals with you. Even the diction and unique choice of words (elites, Islamofascist, Hindutva etc) are similar. But too bad he got perma-banned for excessive trolling.

Geez, I wonder if he had created another dupe to troll in this forum again. He must be so smart since he's hiding so well that none of us can tell right away.

:wave:

Really....Thanks for the research, babes.
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Yo people power north of your house.
 
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