Japan is considering to export warships to Indonesia

[Zarvan]

According to information published by the "Japan Times" newspaper website, Japan government is considering to export Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces warship to Indonesia.
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Mitsubishi Heavy Industries MHI showcasing its 30FFM / Future Multi Mission Frigate concept model at Sea Air Space 2018. (Picture source Navy Recognition)

A successful destroyer deal, if struck, would provide momentum for Japan’s exports of defense equipment and help realize the country’s initiative to make the Indo-Pacific region free and open, citing Japan Times.

Last month, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga agreed with Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo in Bogor, near Jakarta, to accelerate bilateral talks on defense equipment exports and technology transfers.

Based on the Indonesian Navy’s strategic planning, the country aims to gradually transform its current force structure into a naval force with ‘green water’ capabilities by 2024 using a concept of minimum essential forces. The Navy aims to develop a force structure based on Indonesia’s geostrategic requirements, primarily to protect sea-lanes of communication and choke points. At the operational level, the future naval force structure will consist of 3 fleets equipped with Integrated Fleet Weapon Systems (SSAT) that encompass a strike force, a patrol force, a Marine Corps component and naval supporting elements.

For the naval strike force, future acquisition plans include missile-guided destroyers, tactical submarines, fast attack missile boats, torpedo boats and minesweepers. Meanwhile, Marine Corps elements will be developed and possibly stationed in western, central, and eastern Indonesia. Over the next 20 years, it is unlikely that the Indonesian Navy will acquire significant elements for power projection beyond national borders, at least, not more than a minimum essential force.

According to Japanese sources, destroyer that could be export to Indonesia is the 30FMM, a Japanese multi-mission frigate in development for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF). The ship will have an overall length of 130 m, breadth of 16 m, a standard displacement of 3900 tons with a full load displacement of about 5500 tons, and a maximum speed of over 30 knots. Weapons will include a Mk 45 gun, two remote weapon station above the bridge, 16 Mk 41 VLS at the bow, 8 anti-ship missiles, one SeaRAM, an SH-60L helicopter, torpedoes, and decoy launchers. It can also deploy and recover UUV, USV, and sea mines from the rear ramp beneath the helideck. It is also expected to use a naval version of the Type 03 Chū-SAM.

The new 30FMM is based on stealth technology using the Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin (then ATD-X) stealth fighter technology demonstrator, as both platforms are designed by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Along with stealth capabilities, the frigate also emphasizes on having a high level of automation. This allows the frigate to possess a low crew size of only 90 personnel compared to other ships of similar size.

Japan is considering to export warships to Indonesia

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[Indos]

The offer is to build 4 ships in Japan and another 4 build in Indonesia (in total there are 8 frigates). Japan has already surveyed PT PAL Indonesia facility. The price is quite competitive, relatively similar with the offer from Denmark for Iver Hutfield class frigates ( a bit bigger than Japanese ship).

Something that makes Denmark offer is more interesting IMO is that they only offer 2 ships and all the ships will be built in Indonesia. The offer is quite appealing in the midst of pandemic suffered economy.

 

[striver44]

only the hull will be Japanese, the arms and electronics are gonna be Europeans.

 

[Zapper]

Something that makes Denmark offer is more interesting IMO is that they only offer 2 ships and all the ships will be built in Indonesia

Why are they offering only two ships?

and what is your Navy's requirement?

 

[Indos]

Why are they offering only two ships?

and what is your Navy's requirement?

The truth is Indonesia asks for two ships and should be built in Indonesia and they are agree on it, while Japanese needs to offer 8 ships in order to have 4 build in Indonesia. This is all about local defense participation. If there is no requirement to include local defense companies, number of ship being ordered is not relevance at all.

 

[striver44]

The truth is Indonesia asks for two ships and should be built in Indonesia and they are agree on it, while Japanese needs to offer 8 ships in order to have 4 build in Indonesia. This is all about local defense participation. If there is no requirement to include local defense companies, number of ship being ordered is not relevance at all.

I read somewhere that the navy needs is 8 frigates consisted of 4 Martadinata's + 4 Iver.

I think they change the requirements for all the Martadinata's to a full frigate.

 

[Indos]

I read somewhere that the navy needs is 8 frigates consisted of 4 Martadinata's + 4 Iver.

I think they change the requirements for all the Martadinata's to a full frigate.

It could be, but if we talk about ordering, it is impossible to order more than 4 ships by learning from our past acquisition history. Gov will likely to fulfill the needs of Navy by ordering them gradually, it is what has become the norm and practice of our finance ministry and Bappenas so far as the most important institutions in the country in term of our military acquisition scheme. With the current pandemic outbreak and recession that we experience, such approach will likely to enhance rather than loosen. We are also currently under economic centric administration.

I dont know whether they prefer full frigate now, but I prefer highly weaponized frigate, larger frigates with similar or even less weapon and sensor should not become our requirement, it just adds the cost without actual benefit since smaller frigate means lower RCS and still adequate to operate within our territory.