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Japan Diet Approves Bill to Allow Japanese Troops to Fight Abroad

That barrier is hardly unbreachable, but it would demand quite a feat of political persuasion on Tokyo's part. As the learned strategist Mike Tyson points out, "everyone has a strategy 'til they get punched in the mouth." Memo to nuclear-weapons advocates: duck!

Nor are the strategic, operational, and technical challenges less daunting. A nuclear triad — land- and sea-based missiles combined with weapons delivered by manned bombers — holds little promise in light of Japan's lack of geographic depth and the vulnerability of surface ships and aircraft to enemy action. That means fielding an undersea deterrent would be Tokyo's best nuclear option. But doing so would be far from easy. The Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force operates an impressive fleet of diesel submarines but has no experience with naval nuclear propulsion. And that leaves aside the difficulty of developing sea-launched ballistic missiles and their nuclear payloads.

Such engineering challenges are far from insoluble for Japan's scientific-technical complex but cannot be conquered overnight. A force of nuclear-powered ballistic-missile subs, or SSBNs, thus looks like a remote prospect for Japan. As an interim solution, the JMSDF might construct cruise missiles resembling the U.S. Navy's old TLAM-Ns, or nuclear-tipped Tomahawks. JMSDF boats could fire such missiles through torpedo tubes, the easiest method. Or, shipyards could backfit Japanese subs with vertical launchers — much as the U.S. Navy installed Tomahawk launchers in its fast attack boats starting in the late Cold War.

The problem of constructing nuclear weapons small enough to fit on a missile would remain — but nuclear-armed diesel boats would represent a viable course of action should Japan decide to join the nuclear-weapons club. Years down the road, then — not overnight — a modest Japanese nuclear deterrent might put out to sea. Will Tokyo proceed down that road? I doubt it. But the prospect no longer appears unthinkable.

These things cannot be accomplished overnight even you have some impressive scientific/industrial capability.

PS, it is diplomatically unbreachable, the US won't allow Japan to truly remilitarize itself again.

The recent anti-Japan rant made by Donald Trump shows how the white conservatives in the US truly view about Japan; an alien oriental race that is not much different from China in their eyes.
 
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These things cannot be accomplished overnight even you have some impressive scientific/industrial capability.

PS, it is diplomatically unbreachable, the US won't allow Japan to truly remilitarize itself again.

The recent anti-Japan rant made by Donald Trump shows how the white conservatives in the US truly view about Japan; an alien oriental race that is not much different from China in their eyes.


Well as per policy we're moving towards just in that direction. Your understanding of Japanese Foreign Policy , let alone Japanese Political Economy requires some serious review. A serious review.
 
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One small step for Japan military independence, One giant FU to Japan's article 9. As I always said Japan needs to step up its game on the pacific.to help maintain order so the US can focus more on containing Russia.
 
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Because as long as the US still exists, it won't leave Japan, so it is fruitless to discuss how Japan is going to become a nuclear power. This is some fundamental knowledge in the diplomatic world..

This is utterly ridiculous. If they ask us to leave tomorrow...then we leave. We don't have veto power.

anti-Japan rant made by Donald Trump shows how the white conservatives in the US truly view about Japan; an alien oriental race that is not much different from China in their eyes.

He said Japan sells millions of cars in the US every year and we sell less than 1000 every year to Japan. He called it a complete embarrassment on "our" part. You are just putting a spin on it so you can add your "alien oriental race" blurb.

The US sells close to 5M in China every year (of course China sells zero here though...you can blame the "alien oriental race" thing for that..or maybe the reality is because you have no dealerships here and people don't buy cars unseen)
 
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Wait, aside from the PDF Chinese jiang, there is now a PDF Japanese shogun here? And likely to trash-talk each other? :pop:
(I use these terms for those ultranationalistic armchair generals)

Anyways, it seems Japan now is veering away from its initial pacifist stance to a somewhat, interventionist stance. Can't say if this is good or not, but an Asia-Pacific dominated solely by China is not a good idea, thus a counter-balance is needed.
 
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Well as per policy we're moving towards just in that direction. Your understanding of Japanese Foreign Policy , let alone Japanese Political Economy requires some serious review. A serious review.

His assertions are absurd. US defense leaders have openly encouraged Japan's military to take a greater share of the security burden in the Western Pacific. It's why we're selling some of our most advanced equipment to Japan.
 
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If what you say is true that Japan has the capability to produce nuclear weapons, would they not have done it back in the 70s-90s? Why now? If Japan can can arm itself with nuclear weapons, I'm sure China would at this point provide N Korea with the real capability to launch nuclear weapons.

Since North Korea has already proven to have nuclear capability to hit Japan already and is already trying hard to develop the capability to hit the U.S., it wouldn't matter much with Chinese assistance. Japan having nukes would be a big difference. China would be afraid of that.
 
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Yoshi, about that 2 thumbs up, a word of caution, TaiShang's incitation to "free" Japan of
American troops may we'll be motivated by a tactical belief diametrically opposite to yours.

You are just putting a spin on it so you can add your "alien oriental race" blurb.
Besides, Trump can't play the race card : weak argument , he's the lone orange out there. 8-)

Good evening all, Tay.
 
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Since North Korea has already proven to have nuclear capability to hit Japan already and is already trying hard to develop the capability to hit the U.S., it wouldn't matter much with Chinese assistance. Japan having nukes would be a big difference. China would be afraid of that.
N Korea's nuclear arsenal , if you can call it that is made up by the US. They might have one dirty bomb with no capability to deliver it.
With Chinese assistant they can have a capable nuclear force like Pakistan. Japan having nuclear weapons and threatening China is a big mistake. Big country vs small country in a nuclear exchange is not in the best interest of smaller country.
 
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N Korea's nuclear arsenal , if you can call it that is made up by the US. They might have one dirty bomb with no capability to deliver it.
With Chinese assistant they can have a capable nuclear force like Pakistan. Japan having nuclear weapons and threatening China is a big mistake. Big country vs small country in a nuclear exchange is not in the best interest of smaller country.

Nuclear ground tests and rocket launch in the past recent years is not made up by the U.S. I mean back in the 90s North Korea was able to launch a rocket over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, it scared the crap out of them. And it doesn't matter if Japan is small. As Nihonjin has stated they could make a thousand warheads if push comes to shove. That is enough to destroy a country like China. Even a hundred is enough.
 
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Nuclear ground tests and rocket launch in the past recent years is not made up by the U.S. I mean back in the 90s North Korea was able to launch a rocket over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, it scared the crap out of them. And it doesn't matter if Japan is small. As Nihonjin has stated they could make a thousand warheads if push comes to shove. That is enough to destroy a country like China. Even a hundred is enough.
Nihonjin can say whatever he want. He lives in the US and care very little about the fate of Japan. And yeah, China is going to sit there and let Japan launch nuclear warhead in its territory.
 
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He said Japan sells millions of cars in the US every year and we sell less than 1000 every year to Japan. He called it a complete embarrassment on "our" part. You are just putting a spin on it so you can add your "alien oriental race" blurb.

The US sells close to 5M in China every year (of course China sells zero here though...you can blame the "alien oriental race" thing for that..or maybe the reality is because you have no dealerships here and people don't buy cars unseen)

Try to offend the biggest market of your domestic carmakers isn't really a smart decision my friend.

Nihonjin can say whatever he want. He lives in the US and care very little about the fate of Japan. And yeah, China is going to sit there and let Japan launch nuclear warhead in its territory.

Japan can do nothing except bluffing.

But China should thank Abe and his cronies for providing this excellent excuse to hike the military expenditure, and people won't rant for China threat, since China got a perfect reason to strengthen its military power facing a such mentally aggressive neighbor.
 
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Nihonjin can say whatever he want. He lives in the US and care very little about the fate of Japan. And yeah, China is going to sit there and let Japan launch nuclear warhead in its territory.

Oh and you represent Nihonjin? And I don't think China would sit there and let Japan launch nukes at them. But Japan won't sit there and let China do that as well vice versa.
 
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