J&K: Infiltrators occupy Indian village along the LoC, say sources

[qamar1990]

You would have to be a ****-poor farmer to be cultivating crops in a rocky, mountainous region with little to no arable land which is also right in the middle of a armed flashpoint between two nuclear armed nations.

well then poor innocent goat herders

 

[vivINDIAN]

India’s top military leadership on Friday bluntly accused Pakistan of drastically stepping-up ceasefire violations in a bid to push in as many militants as possible into J&K before winter sets in, but dismissed suggestions that a Kargil-like situation had developed in the Keran sector along the line of control (LoC).

IAF chief Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, who is also chairman of the chiefs of staff committee, said Pakistan was making “frenetic attempts” to ensure the maximum number of terrorists infiltrate across the LoC before the mountainpasses get snowed under.

“There is increased intensity in the border violations this year, which is there for the whole world to see … There have been far more violations this year compared to the last two-three years,” he said, adding Pakistan must “maintain the sanctity” of the decade-old ceasefire agreement.

Army chief General Bikram Singh, speaking separately, also stressed the infiltration attempts from across the border had “definitely” jumped up this year as compared to earlier years. But both the chiefs took pains to emphasize that the ongoing “Operation Shala Bhata” in the Keran sector, launched after a group of 30-40 terrorists and Pakistani “special troops” intruded across the LoC on September 24, was “a localised, tactical” operation.

Holding that no posts, bunkers or village had been “occupied” by the infiltrators, Gen Singh said, “They have been stopped, prevented. Some of them have been neutralised. Operations are on to flush them. It takes time since we want to avoid our own casualties.”

The massive Kargil intrusion in 1999 had witnessed systematic and surreptitious “occupation” of forward Indian posts along the LoC by Pakistani Army “regulars”, who were later evicted from their well-entrenched positions after a bloody conflict.

However, the 778km LoC has turned red-hot this time too. Senior officers say the Pakistani Army’s is “actively back” to its old strategy of providing “covering fire” to infiltrating militants, which has “peaked” especially after Nawaz Sharif became the PM in June.

This can be gauged from the fact that as many as 150 ceasefire violations have already been recorded this year, compared to 57 in 2010, 61 (2011) and 117 (2012). “There have been over 90 ceasefire breaches in August and September. Compared to 2011 and 2012, the maximum number of militants — around 220 — have also tried to infiltrate into J&K this year,” said an officer.

Incidentally, there was a fresh infiltration bid on Friday in the Keran sector, just about 6km south-west from the ongoing operation in Shala Bhata area. “Three militants were killed in the operation,” said an officer.

In Shala Bhata, the Army says it is now conducting mopping up operations after earlier claiming to have killed 15 of the original group of 30-40 intruders till now. “In the area they have come in, we are dominating from all sides … the terrorists are holed up. They are stuck in the very treacherous and difficult terrain, and we will take them on,” said Gen Singh.

 

[Dillinger]

well then poor innocent goat herders

You mean the same goat herders who deserted that area and stopped residing or going there twenty years back BECAUSE it is smack dab on the LOC? Plenty stupid of those "herders". Anyway, no herder will hole up in an abandoned village and sit there as the IA batters it.

 

[kaykay]

so as of now 20-25 militants are killed and we can expect 15-20 more in next 2 days if they don't runaway to their masters.

 

[qamar1990]

You mean the same goat herders who deserted that area and stopped residing or going there twenty years back BECAUSE it is smack dab on the LOC? Plenty stupid of those "herders". Anyway, no herder will hole up in an abandoned village and sit there as the IA batters it.

what I'm wondering is that why on earth the indian army brought in thousands of soldiers for 35 militants lol.
wtf is wrong your army? in pakistan they would have sent in 1 cop with a danda.

 

[India_rocks]

On one side NS talks about friendship with India and in reality this happens..

when will Pakistan stop cross border terrorism?

 

[karan.1970]

You mean the same goat herders who deserted that area and stopped residing or going there twenty years back BECAUSE it is smack dab on the LOC? Plenty stupid of those "herders". Anyway, no herder will hole up in an abandoned village and sit there as the IA batters it.

Its not the goat herders who are being stupid.. If you know what I mean

what I'm wondering is that why on earth the indian army brought in thousands of soldiers for 35 militants lol.
wtf is wrong your army? in pakistan they would have sent in 1 cop with a danda.

Yeah.. And we have seen the state of Pakistan.. Thanks but No Thanks..

 

[Dillinger]

what I'm wondering is that why on earth the indian army brought in thousands of soldiers for 35 militants lol.
wtf is wrong your army? in pakistan they would have sent in 1 cop with a danda.

Yes and then the next day the PAF's airbase would have been attacked. We don't operate that way, fools underestimate the scope of operations in high altitude areas (as the PA did in Kargil, one need only listen to Air marshal Shahid Lateef's view on that among many others). That is a 5 km front in the Northern Keran sector, but then you can't even point out that region on a map so it would be an exercise in futility to try and familiarize you with the ground situation. We are simply satisfied that the infiltrators are now trapped 200 meters into our territory and surrounded, 20 of them have been neutralized and the rest will soon follow suite.

Not surprising though, the infiltration spikes at this time right before the onset of winter and this is a major group that has been caught, these would have been the cells which would have been activated next year or later in December-Jan had they succeeded in this infiltration.

 

[GR!FF!N]

@Spring Onion

start the body count..I'll mention you each report that will publish the body count..

 

[ExtraOdinary]

what I'm wondering is that why on earth the indian army brought in thousands of soldiers for 35 militants lol.
wtf is wrong your army? in pakistan they would have sent in 1 cop with a danda.

That is the diff. b/w us, isn't it. Reinforcements are there to ensure not one of them should make it back alive. We are doing what you guys should be doing in N. Waziristan, but of course you'd prefer to talk to them while they bomb your cities.

 

[Dillinger]

Yaara not going by rumors. IF and when such a statement corroborated with proof is provided then we shall see. At the moment these are "non-state actors", we will neutralize them and dispose of their bodies since obviously no one will wish to claim them.

AND PLEASE till there is no confirmation lets not call them PA regulars.

 

[SQ8]

Yaara not going by rumors. IF and when such a statement corroborated with proof is provided then we shall see. At the moment these are "non-state actors", we will neutralize them and dispose of their bodies since obviously no one will wish to claim them.

AND PLEASE till there is no confirmation lets not call them PA regulars.

That fact that IA commanders are denying this puts the onus on the Indian Media for resorting to yellow journalism in an effort to push ratings.

 

[Hulk]

well then poor innocent goat herders

Yes they are firing goat pop on us and in return getting killed.

 

[datalibdaz]

12 militants killed till now...wonder how many would have got through...a wild guess...if 100 militants entered IOK and 10 got killed, but 90 made it...

 

[karan.1970]

That fact that IA commanders are denying this puts the onus on the Indian Media for resorting to yellow journalism in an effort to push ratings.

You are stating the obvious. Indian media can run global classes in yellow journalism.. Might not be a bad idea.. Will help the economy somewhat