J-16D - China Builds Its Own 'Wild Weasel' To Suppress Air Defenses

[Falcon26]

None of what you've mentioned disproves any existing data about the J-11B/D/16's avionics. Just because a system isn't an open book doesn't imply a lack of capability.



Does it matter if it hasn't? The Rafale has never exercised with the Russians and yet that seems to be an exception to your golden rules of Internet aviation.



The question should be: why were the Russians so eager to sell the Su-35? Why did the Chinese ask to retrofit them with their own avionics? Why are the Chinese building the J-11D, J-15A, J-11B, & J-16 when the supposedly-"superior" Su-35 could fit all those gaps?



Are you sure? The Chinese have deployed AESA radars on the J-10C, J-15A, J-11B, J-16, and J-11D, in addition to their 5th generation aircraft, surveillance platforms, and a few helicopters. There are multiple research facilities that compete with each other for military contracts. Do the Russians have the same level of flexibility when it comes to avionics selection & bidding?

Great post but no point in debating with these BJP bots. In their minds, LCA is the second coming of F-22

 

[abrar khan]

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Please keep burnol with you, as its out of stock in india and now a days you people are using it a lot for butt hurt.
hey guys @War Thunder , @SinoSoldier please keep talking about a specialized EW and SAM hunter and ignore rants here.

 

[Mustang06]

J-16D brings hammer down on SAMs
Using the J-16/Su-30 airframe, the J-16D deletes some air to air combat gear for cramming in electronic attack equipment that includes electronic intelligence pods.

While China's Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) operations rely on heavy air defenses, Chinese air force planners may also have to account for enemy surface to air missiles, all the more with Taiwan and Japan embarking on a new buildup of missile shields. In December, one of the responses was revealed: the Shenyang J-16D.

The J-16D's wingtips have built in electronic intelligence pods, which intercept enemy electronic signals like radar transmissions, for processing in the fighter's computers, which then tell the J-16D's jammers how to scramble, confuse and block enemy usage of the electromagnetic spectrum.


The J-16D is a J-16/Su-30 multi-role fighter optimized for "Wild Weasel" missions. Starting in the Vietnam War, Wild Weasels are fighters designed to take on surface-to-air missile batteries in a SEAD (Supression of Enemy Air Defense) role. Armed with anti-radiation missiles (which lock on and target radars by their electronic emissions) and electronic intelligence and electronic warfare jammers, they are designed to engage and suppress defenses, opening the way for traditional air attacks.

Electronic Flanker

This comparision of the J-16D to the baseline J-16, done by noted aviation journalist Andreas Rupprecht, shows that the J-16D has removed its IRST sensor and 30mm cannon, as well as installing addition antennas.

Compared to the baseline J-16, the J-16D has removed its Infrared Search Tracking sensor and 30mm cannon to accommodate more electronics inside its fuselage. It also has several antennas mounted around its fuselage. The J-16D also two large ELINT pods on its wingtips, similar to those on the E/A-18 Growler, to collect enemy radar and electronic activity. Additionally, the J-16D has smaller radome, likely to include an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar optimized for electronic warfare, including signals collection and jamming. The J-16D will be fitted with large AESA jamming pods, a development of current jammers on JH-7A attack aircraft; its attack ability will come from YJ-91, LD-10 and other anti-radiation missiles.

The J-16D provides Chinese aerial operations with a fast, maneuverable and long range EW and Wild Weasel platform that can protect Chinese fighters and bombers like the J-10, J-11, J-15, J-20, J-31 and H-6K bomber. This will be an important requirement in combat operations in increasingly militarized areas like the Taiwan Straits and South China Seas. In combat operations, the J-16 would first use its jammers to disrupt the target and fire control of enemy air defenses, before firing its long range anti-radiation missiles, which are equally deadly against both mobile and fixed air defenses. As a fighter, it can still take part in aerial combat in self defense and to protect other aircraft against enemy fighters.

CM-102

The CM-102 anti-radiation missile, first seen here at the 2014 Zhuhai Air Show, is a supersonic, 100km range air launched missile with an anti-radiation warhead that homes in on the electronic activity of enemy transmitters like radars. The CM-102 is one of the many attack options for the J-16 to destroy enemy radars and other electronic equipment as part of its Wild Weasel mission.

China's increasing ability to protect its power projection capabilities shows that its advances in military technology are just as much focused on taking action aboard to advance its interests, as opposed to the A2AD narrative of hunkering down against enemy threats. And, much as the US plans for F-35/22, Chinese Wild Weasel capabilities can be expected to migrate to fifth-generation stealth fighters, carrier aircraft, and drones large and small.

By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer
http://www.popsci.com/china-builds-its-own-wild-weasel-to-suppress-air-defenses

Is the canopy tinted in the second picture?
With so much electronic equipment packed into the aircraft it makes it an Chinese 'Growler'!

 

[MarcsPakistan]

I said Clones
I am the best Indian ever
J16 is superior to MKI it just lack the thrust vectoring .

Rafale will be superior to J 20 and J 31

The EXTERNAL Stealthy shape is a good thing but is NOT everything

What matters is what is INSIDE the plane ; that is Avionics

And then PAK FA is coming ; which will be the BIG daddy of J 20

Pak FA and FGFA are two different things
Just had the design in same and Russia will never give its Technology to India who rely on West
and For J-20 it will kick ur As*
U haven't recieved Rafale yet and thinking to Beat J-20
Just Rindian Things

 

[truthseeker2010]

ONLY SU 35 which China has bought recently is Superior to SU 30 MKI
J 11 ; J 16 are just clones

And here also we are Upgrading our SU 30 MKI very soon
which will make it equal to Su 35

And with PAK FA and RAFALE coming in --

IAF will remain qualitatively superior
to PLAAF ; No worries for us

comparing apples with oranges, MKI and J-16 are made for different roles........

 

[Star Expedition]

Very well.
We need 100 J-16 and 200 J-16B

 

[Sully3]

ONLY SU 35 which China has bought recently is Superior to SU 30 MKI
J 11 ; J 16 are just clones

And here also we are Upgrading our SU 30 MKI very soon
which will make it equal to Su 35

And with PAK FA and RAFALE coming in --

IAF will remain qualitatively superior
to PLAAF ; No worries for us

hahahahahahahahah stupid indian.

 

[War Thunder]

YES they can

What makes you think that We dont have dedicated SU 30s for SEAD and DEAD missions
EW attack aircraft are tasked with SEAD and DEAD missions

And what do you know about EW capabilities of RAFALE - absolutely Nothing

dude you must be retarded but maybe thats just normal for your fellas
Tell me if you have issues comprehending the OP post or do i need to spoon feed here?


We are talking about a platform restructured to be an EW and SAM hunter .... and you are comparing that with your su 30 and Rafaele?

You sir are an absolute IDIOT .... thats all i can say



Try comprehending this...

The J-16D's wingtips have built in electronic intelligence pods, which intercept enemy electronic signals like radar transmissions, for processing in the fighter's computers, which then tell the J-16D's jammers how to scramble, confuse and block enemy usage of the electromagnetic spectrum.


The J-16D is a J-16/Su-30 multi-role fighter optimized for "Wild Weasel" missions. Starting in the Vietnam War, Wild Weasels are fighters designed to take on surface-to-air missile batteries in a SEAD (Supression of Enemy Air Defense) role. Armed with anti-radiation missiles (which lock on and target radars by their electronic emissions) and electronic intelligence and electronic warfare jammers, they are designed to engage and suppress defenses, opening the way for traditional air attacks.

Compared to the baseline J-16, the J-16D has removed its Infrared Search Tracking sensor and 30mm cannon to accommodate more electronics inside its fuselage. It also has several antennas mounted around its fuselage. The J-16D also two large ELINT pods on its wingtips, similar to those on the E/A-18 Growler, to collect enemy radar and electronic activity. Additionally, the J-16D has smaller radome, likely to include an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar optimized for electronic warfare, including signals collection and jamming. The J-16D will be fitted with large AESA jamming pods, a development of current jammers on JH-7A attack aircraft; its attack ability will come from YJ-91, LD-10 and other anti-radiation missiles.

The J-16D provides Chinese aerial operations with a fast, maneuverable and long range EW and Wild Weasel platform that can protect Chinese fighters and bombers like the J-10, J-11, J-15, J-20, J-31 and H-6K bomber. This will be an important requirement in combat operations in increasingly militarized areas like the Taiwan Straits and South China Seas. In combat operations, the J-16 would first use its jammers to disrupt the target and fire control of enemy air defenses, before firing its long range anti-radiation missiles, which are equally deadly against both mobile and fixed air defenses.



Comprende?

 

[Sully3]

Rafale will be superior to J 20 and J 31

The EXTERNAL Stealthy shape is a good thing but is NOT everything

What matters is what is INSIDE the plane ; that is Avionics

And then PAK FA is coming ; which will be the BIG daddy of J 20

Donkey of the day award goes to .........

 

[帅的一匹]

Su 30 MKI of India is the Bigger Predator as compared to J 16

And RAFALE will be the APEX Predator in Asia -- till Japan gets F 35

Japan already had the first F35 ready for induction.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Man that indian Dude is most Stubborn retard i ever saw...

 

[Skywalker]

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For the time being just send this to your assets in Afghanistan who are burning to ashes in their shit holes. I can already see loads of smoke is coming out.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

indians here trying hard to convince others that Su-30 of late 90's is superior then J-16D of 2017 without any technical details to support their claims
.
poor baniyas still high on holy u**** .

indians here trying hard to convince others that Su-30 of late 90's is superior then J-16D of 2017 without any technical details to support their claims
.
poor baniyas still high on holy u**** .

comparing apples with oranges, MKI and J-16 are made for different roles........

Still a feel of J-16& J-16D is way better then su-30 of 90's . stop day dreaming bhakt.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Cool.

We should do that too.

 

[Glockaholic]

how will it fare against Russian S-400 Triumph ?