J-16. China's answer to America's upcoming F-15EX.

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Same can be said about K-8 trainer. Unbeaten in combat.

Is K-8 is a combat jet please tell me

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Is K-8 is a combat jet please tell me

Making a point. You can also argue no Flanker has ever been shot down so it's super duper. On the other hand, F-15E have been destroyed by ground fire in 1991 Gulf war.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Same can be said about K-8 trainer. Unbeaten in combat.

Last time I checked K-8s didn't shoot down Migs

Making a point. You can also argue no Flanker has ever been shot down so it's super duper. On the other hand, F-15E have been destroyed by ground fire in 1991 Gulf war.

Yea but we still kicked their Migs out of the sky

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Yea but we still kicked their Migs out of the sky

Likewise Chinese J-20 kills Taiwanese F-16 without a single loss if war happens. Modern war is all about technology.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Likewise Chinese J-20 kills Taiwanese F-16 without a single loss if war happens. Modern war is all about technology.

Yeah but again knowing China's J-20s are probably barely stealth sooo it depends , plus it's the fighter pilot that counts and his or her flight hours in the aircraft.

Also it's engines are 3rd gen so it's not even a proper 5th gen aircraft

 

[Beast]

Yes American F-15s did pretty good against Indian Su-30s , so NO the Russian still won't kick our @sses


Western fighters are always superior fam , after the Mig-21 Russian fighters fell from then and all China does now is just copy what they have or what the Israelis have nothing special.

You forget the J-20...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Yeah but again knowing China J-20s are probably barely stealth sooo it depends

J-20 shoots from 200 km away using PL-15. Anyway, they don't encounter many F-16 in the air considering Taiwanese airbases obliterated by CJ-10 cruise missiles and DF-17 hypersonic missiles fired from H-6N bombers operating from Urumqi airbase which is about 3,700 km from Taiwan where it's safe from attacks. So basically it'll be like 200 J-20 against 10 F-16.

The hard hitting Badger. China's latest H-6N equipped with IFR probe, FLIR turret, MAWS, air launched ballistic missiles

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[Beast]

Yeah but again knowing China's J-20s are probably barely stealth sooo it depends , plus it's the fighter pilot that counts and his or her flight hours in the aircraft.

Also it's engines are 3rd gen so it's not even a proper 5th gen aircraft

If J-20 is barely stealth, I guess Rafale.mist be full stealthy..

 

[SpaceMan18]

J-20 shoots from 200 km away using PL-15. Anyway, they don't encounter many F-16 in the air considering Taiwanese airbases obliterated by CJ-10 cruise missiles and DF-17 hypersonic missiles fired from H-6N bombers operating from Urumqi airbase which is about 3,700 km from Taiwan where it's safe from attacks. So basically it'll be like 200 J-20 against 10 F-16.

The hard hitting Badger. China's latest H-6N equipped with IFR probe, FLIR turret, MAWS, air launched ballistic missiles

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Nope the U.S won't go easy on the Chinese and plus hyper sonic missiles are hard to control so idk , and 200 J-20s LMAO what ? China's not gonna put 200 J-20s and plus J-20s is a 4th gen aircraft trying to be a 5th gen aircraft soo no

If J-20 is barely stealth, I guess Rafale.mist be full stealthy..

No one fk mentioned the Rafale , and the J-20s engines are 3rd gen


An aircraft can be fully stealth if it's engines/body is stealth

J-20 is half stealth 4th gen

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

J-20 is half stealth 4th gen

Evidence? Anyway stealth is marketing gimmick. It's not effective in real life situation. Just like super duper American vaccine claimed to be nearly 100% efficient and real world numbers show it is useless.

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[SpaceMan18]

Evidence? Anyway stealth is marketing gimmick. It's not effective in real life situation. Just like super duper American vaccine claimed to be nearly 100% efficient and real world numbers show it is useless.

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OHHHH SO NOW WHEN I SHOW THE CHINESE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL STALTH AIRCRAFT YOU SAY STEALTH IS A GIMMICK ?

Nope stealth has an edge , the Americans along with it's allies spent tons of money and resources to build such fighters where all China has done is steal and market fake *** stealth aircrafts like the FC-31 and J-20s.

I rather trust the hard work done by many nations engineers and scientists vs Chinese international property theft

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

OHHHH SO NOW WHEN I SHOW THE CHINESE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL STALTH AIRCRAFT YOU SAY STEALTH IS A GIMMICK ?

Nope stealth has an edge , the Americans along with it's allies spent tons of money and resources to build such fighters where all China has done is steal and market fake *** stealth aircrafts like the FC-31 and J-20s.

I rather trust the hard work done by many nations engineers and scientists vs Chinese international property theft

J-20 has lower RCS than F-22 from the front due to DSI air intakes which hide engine blades.

 

[SpaceMan18]

J-20 has lower RCS than F-22 from the front due to DSI air intakes which hide engine blades.

Alright , but again we don't know if the Americans have modified the F22 and now you guys have to deal with the F-35 and it's own variants


Also deal wit the B-2 stealth bombers and the upcoming B-21

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Alright , but again we don't know if the Americans have modified the F22 and now you guys have to deal with the F-35 and it's own variants


Also deal wit the B-2 stealth bombers and the upcoming B-21

F-35 is not air superiority. It is mainly for ground attack mission. J-20 is mainly for air superiority. F-22 still lacks DSI. It hasn't been modified. No F-22B which had been planned to replace F-22A.

Also deal wit the B-2 stealth bombers and the upcoming B-21

B-2 don't have long range stand off missiles. It cannot hit Urumqi airbase unless it flies over mainland China. Well, sitting ducks for J-20 and HQ-9C.

 

[SpaceMan18]

F-35 is not air superiority. It is mainly for ground attack mission. J-20 is mainly for air superiority. F-22 still lacks DSI. It hasn't been modified. No F-22B which had been planned to replace F-22A.

AGAIN J-20 is not STEALTH , it's engines are 3rd gen which makes the whole body useless even if it's stealth which means the F-22 is still going to be stealth and not detected