ITS OFFICIAL - Indian 5th Gen Fighter AMCA - Director interview

[BHarwana]

So you are a aviation expert working for Lockheed Martin

I bet you deliver pizza for a living

You know nothing about Aero science
And Pakistan knows nothing either relatively compared to India

Lca is here
Mark two getting close to first flight
Amca. To arrive

Live with it

That is the problem with you Indians. When they say in news you think ho gaya hai. Yes yes yes. Please listen what that man is saying. The requirements that person defined in the speech are for 4th gen and they are far behind fifth gen. The big question which India needs to understand here is what is 5th gen. What makes a jet fifth gen?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Possible If India learnt lesson from Tejas delay. As few member Mentioned 2032 date but it seems unrealistic. About india It seems impractical in one decade time.

 

[faithfulguy]

Possible If India learnt lesson from Tejas delay. As few member Mentioned 2032 date but it seems unrealistic. About india It seems impractical in one decade time.

The first flight at 2032 is more realistic. And even that is ambitious.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

What engines would it use? India has no jet engine.

 

[Dazzler]

The first flight at 2032 is more realistic. And even that is ambitious.

Take the LCA as the yardstick so it might consume more time than that.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Take the LCA as the yardstick so it might consume more time than that.

2040 at the earliest test flight. Depends on what engine they can get from America to power it.

 

[Storm Force]

What engines would it use? India has no jet engine.

The Engines for prototype have been confirmed as Usa supplied GE414 the latest version currently powering super hornets

Long term to USE indian kaveri engines

 

[KapitaanAli]

The development process is similar to the LCA. A TD before full prototypes.

LCA TD took 11 years after design. NGTD target is 5-6 years, focusing on stealth shaping.

 

[Hindustani78]

There was a requirement for a consultant in Numerical Master Geometry etc. PhD isn't required, but decades of experience is. There are also requirements with BTech qualifications for mechanical, avionics, integration and so on.

More details of the prototype and consultants:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/details-of-indias-5th-gen-amca-technology-demonstrator-ngtd.545135/

Over all PhD in religion is must, when you are part of Indian Armed Forces.

 

[thinkingcap81]

Take the LCA as the yardstick so it might consume more time than that.

LCA had a lot of project mismanagement coupled with a low technological base. India has changed since then and we are gradually reaching an acceptable degree of competence - not great, but a lot better. IAF too will be forced to play an active role in AMCA.

It will be wrong to take LCA as a yardstick.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Vendors for fabrication need not have people with very high qualifications, experience is important.

Design is frozen?? What aspects of design - aerodynamics? Electronics is surely a long way off.

Yes, it's shape is finished. Avionics, though some are in advanced stages isnt at that level.

 

[Jlaw]

Looks like f-22

Copy it is, copy on paper

It's only copy if Chinese does it. When Indians do it it's not copy buy rather "all jet fighters have similar looks and design"

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

I expect to see ALL 3 of of

Tejas Mark 1a

Tejas Mark 2

AND AMCA in IAF by 2035




don't UNDER ESTIMATE what india CAN and has BUILT already

All BEING well

IAF will have inducted 40 mark 1 by 2020-2021

Mark 1a x 83 PLANES by 2022-2027

I expect to see FIRST flight of Tejas MARK 2 by 2025

Seriel production by 2027-2028

I expect AMCA to arrive 2032-2034 Initial operational clearance

Let's just stick to the next 5 years first before going to 2032

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If it's a medium plane it can replace MiG-29 but not Su-30 which is in a totally different class. Only FGFA can replace Su-30. AMCA is not an alternative to FGFA. They are not even in the same size class.

 

[MimophantSlayer]

That is the problem with you Indians. When they say in news you think ho gaya hai. Yes yes yes. Please listen what that man is saying. The requirements that person defined in the speech are for 4th gen and they are far behind fifth gen. The big question which India needs to understand here is what is 5th gen. What makes a jet fifth gen?

And what's wrong with some of you pdf pakistanis is that you come into the conversation with bad faith, i.e. you lot disagree just for the sake of it.
The confirmation bias could have been easily avoided if you had done your due diligence and actually read the AMCA sticky.

The AMCA project director is barely talking about the 5th gen tech that'll be involved; he is basically talking about the logistics of the project and how they'll go about it.

Basically this.

What we are doing and where we are(that is made public).

But, do enlighten us, what exactly was the AMCA director talking about that you think was so low gen tech that is not to you pakistanis' preference?
Clearly you have seen something, we plebians haven't.

Take the LCA as the yardstick so it might consume more time than that.

Disagree.
When we started Tejas, we had nothing, no facilities for testing and R&D and this dependence caused us to go abroad which bit us in the @$$ when US(after our nuclear tests) sent our engineers back and did not let them keep the research they had already finished on the Tejas, forcing us to start all over again.
This time though, we have the resources(borne out of the Tejas program) to do it all on our own hence the Tejas' timeframe should not be taken as a benchmark for everything else to come.