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It’s not radical Islam that worries the US – it’s independence

Noam Chomsky | The Guardian, UK

The nature of any regime it backs in the Arab world is secondary to control. Subjects are ignored until they break their chains

‘The Arab world is on fire,” al-Jazeera reported last week, while throughout the region, western allies “are quickly losing their influence”. The shock wave was set in motion by the dramatic uprising in Tunisia that drove out a western-backed dictator, with reverberations especially in Egypt, where demonstrators overwhelmed a dictator’s brutal police.
Observers compared it to the toppling of Russian domains in 1989, but there are important differences. Crucially, no Mikhail Gorbachev exists among the great powers that support the Arab dictators. Rather, Washington and its allies keep to the well-established principle that democracy is acceptable only insofar as it conforms to strategic and economic objectives: fine in enemy territory (up to a point), but not in our backyard, please, unless properly tamed.

One 1989 comparison has some validity: Romania, where Washington maintained its support for Nicolae Ceausescu, the most vicious of the east European dictators, until the allegiance became untenable. Then Washington hailed his overthrow while the past was erased. That is a standard pattern: Ferdinand Marcos, Jean-Claude Duvalier, Chun Doo-hwan, Suharto and many other useful gangsters. It may be under way in the case of Hosni Mubarak, along with routine efforts to try to ensure a successor regime will not veer far from the approved path. The current hope appears to be Mubarak loyalist General Omar Suleiman, just named Egypt’s vice-president. Suleiman, the longtime head of the intelligence services, is despised by the rebelling public almost as much as the dictator himself.

A common refrain among pundits is that fear of radical Islam requires (reluctant) opposition to democracy on pragmatic grounds. While not without some merit, the formulation is misleading. The general threat has always been independence. The US and its allies have regularly supported radical Islamists, sometimes to prevent the threat of secular nationalism.

“The traditional argument put forward in and out of the Arab world is that there is nothing wrong, everything is under control,” says Marwan Muasher, a former Jordanian official and now director of Middle East research for the Carnegie Endowment. “With this line of thinking, entrenched forces argue that opponents and outsiders calling for reform are exaggerating the conditions on the ground.”

Therefore the public can be dismissed. The doctrine traces far back and generalises worldwide, to US home territory as well. In the event of unrest, tactical shifts may be necessary, but always with an eye to reasserting control.

The vibrant democracy movement in Tunisia was directed against “a police state, with little freedom of expression or association, and serious human rights problems”, ruled by a dictator whose family was hated for their venality. So said US ambassador Robert Godec in a July 2009 cable released by WikiLeaks.

Therefore to some observers the WikiLeaks “documents should create a comforting feeling among the American public that officials aren’t asleep at the switch” – indeed, that the cables are so supportive of US policies that it is almost as if Obama is leaking them himself (or so Jacob Heilbrunn writes in The National Interest.)

“America should give Assange a medal,” says a headline in the Financial Times, where Gideon Rachman writes: “America’s foreign policy comes across as principled, intelligent and pragmatic … the public position taken by the US on any given issue is usually the private position as well.”

In this view, WikiLeaks undermines “conspiracy theorists” who question the noble motives Washington proclaims.

Godec’s cable supports these judgments – at least if we look no further. If we do,, as foreign policy analyst Stephen Zunes reports in Foreign Policy in Focus, we find that, with Godec’s information in hand, Washington provided $12m in military aid to Tunisia. As it happens, Tunisia was one of only five foreign beneficiaries: Israel (routinely); the two Middle East dictatorships Egypt and Jordan; and Colombia, which has long had the worst human-rights record and the most US military aid in the hemisphere.

Heilbrunn’s exhibit A is Arab support for US policies targeting Iran, revealed by leaked cables. Rachman too seizes on this example, as did the media generally, hailing these encouraging revelations. The reactions illustrate how profound is the contempt for democracy in the educated culture.

Unmentioned is what the population thinks – easily discovered.According to polls released by the Brookings Institution in August, some Arabs agree with Washington and western commentators that Iran is a threat: 10%. In contrast, they regard the US and Israel as the major threats (77%; 88%).

Arab opinion is so hostile to Washington’s policies that a majority (57%) think regional security would be enhanced if Iran had nuclear weapons. Still, “there is nothing wrong, everything is under control” (as Muasher describes the prevailing fantasy). The dictators support us. Their subjects can be ignored – unless they break their chains, and then policy must be adjusted.

Other leaks also appear to lend support to the enthusiastic judgments about Washington’s nobility. In July 2009, Hugo Llorens, U.S. ambassador to Honduras, informed Washington of an embassy investigation of “legal and constitutional issues surrounding the 28 June forced removal of President Manuel ‘Mel’ Zelaya.”

The embassy concluded that “there is no doubt that the military, supreme court and national congress conspired on 28 June in what constituted an illegal and unconstitutional coup against the executive branch”. Very admirable, except that President Obama proceeded to break with almost all of Latin America and Europe by supporting the coup regime and dismissing subsequent atrocities.

Perhaps the most remarkable WikiLeaks revelations have to do with Pakistan, reviewed by foreign policy analyst Fred Branfman in Truthdig.

The cables reveal that the US embassy is well aware that Washington’s war in Afghanistan and Pakistan not only intensifies rampant anti-Americanism but also “risks destabilising the Pakistani state” and even raises a threat of the ultimate nightmare: that nuclear weapons might fall into the hands of Islamic terrorists.

Again, the revelations “should create a comforting feeling … that officials are not asleep at the switch” (Heilbrunn’s words) – while Washington marches stalwartly toward disaster.

It's not radical Islam that worries the US ? it's independence | Noam Chomsky | Comment is free | The Guardian
 
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The ability for the western media to create a false narrative is stunning, what the West fear, is not a fear of the other, but a fear of losing control. What we essentially do in places like this forum is beat around the bush and we never discuss this truth face on.
 
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The ability for the western media to create a false narrative is stunning, what the West fear, is not a fear of the other, but a fear of losing control. What we essentially do in places like this forum is beat around the bush and we never discuss this truth face on.

It's not the radical Islam but the moderate Sunni one that the majority practices that worries the US the most. They're least concerned about Shia Iran, had they been so worried wouldn't have they attacked and conquered them before Iraq?

Sunni Islam dominates the demographic makeup of the middle east and all the natural resources within it. And Egypt being the largest Sunni state, it`s independence will be way too symbolic for the khaleeji sunni`s to follow. Yemen is already following the footsteps of the Egyptian revolution in the making.

How come the Shia`s are allowed a democracy but all the sunni`s must be chained by ruthless dicatators and mafias from Egypt to all the way in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

therefore, it`s not just the fear of losing control, but also the fear of the `other` that they ideologically resent the most. i think it`d be naive to not consider ideological factors in this complex equation.
 
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We as Muslims have an issue because with America we have a secular quarrel first and foremost, and then a periphery religious issue. We demand control of our lands, we demand sovereignty, we demand the right to a prosperous life, and simply put Americans do not want this for us because we will divert from their interests.


This is a tyranny of sorts. The first questions American ask are does this benefit us, the biggest trap we can fall into is when you start asking does this benefit the Americans.
 
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Americans really expect to make some friends by trying to break the core of muslims, that is the unity and levying sanctions against them in the name of x or y with the sole purpose of draining them economically..example Iran, Iraq and Sudan..
 
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Americans really expect to make some friends by trying to break the core of muslims, that is the unity and levying sanctions against them in the name of x or y with the sole purpose of draining them economically..example Iran, Iraq and Sudan..

Iraq has drained US financially. I've never understood this popular notion that somehow the U.S. is "stealing oil." Brilliant... let's mount a $1 trillion operation to steal $5 billion worth of oil. That makes sense.

Two uncomfortable truths: 1) Iraq sells oil on the world market, at market prices. There is no "free oil" headed towards U.S. ports. 2) Iraq supplies about 5% of the oil used in the U.S. The vast majority comes from Canada and Mexico. Iraq is #6 IIRC, far below other nations.

Look it up. And no, I was never in favor of conflict there.
 
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