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Buddy you are a senior member and hope you make some mature comments than childish.India is a big country with 1.2 billion people and it is almost impossible task to get proper treatment for all.Even your own poor citizens coming to india for treatment in big hospitals and better to watch some clips over here


Some times indian doctors have to train your own doctors for complicated surgeries.There are 1000's of pakistani patients coming to india for better treatment, because your country can't provide those, neither pakistani doctors not that capable for doing so in your country.For your information india is one of the biggest medical tourism destination in the world and even patients coming from US for treatment with 1/10th the cost compared to US.Even a single metro city of india is having more world class hospital facilities than whole pakistan.

As on March 2014, Indian pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities registered with the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) stood at 523, highest for any country outside the US.

Indian companies like Cipla announced the acquisition of two US-based companies, InvaGen Pharmaceuticals Inc. and Exelan Pharmaceuticals Inc., for US$ 550 million.

Lupin has acquired two US based pharmaceutical firms, Gavis Pharmaceuticals LLC and Novel Laboratories Inc, in a deal worth at US$ 880 million and these are some of acquistion by indian companies out of many in US/Europe.Can pakistani companies dream about the same !

The Indian pharmaceutical market size is expected to grow to US$ 100 billion by 2025, driven by increasing consumer spending, rapid urbanisation, and raising healthcare insurance among others.

India has been the third-largest exporter of drugs to the US market by volume and has 370 FDA-approved manufacturing facilities outside the US, which is the second largest in the world

India ranks fourth in pharmaceutical production in the world with an output of about $31 billion in 2014.

The country has a 1.4 per cent share by value and 10 per cent by volume in the global pharma industry. It exports drugs to more than 200 countries.

Pharmaceuticals: 'Generics to double in five years’ - The Hindu

My dear india is a different league all together.......


The safety concerns about India go beyond the fear of being burned in a fire. Other major concerns include:

1. Fake pharmaceuticals are a big worry. In fact, 75 percent of counterfeit drugs supplied world over have origins in India, according to a report released by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

2. Lack of proper hygiene contributes to a large number of infections in hospital settings. A recent investigation into the death of 13 women in a Rajasthan hospital found that the poor hygiene standard in the hospital were flagrantly overlooked, according to Times of India.


Haq's Musings: Is India Safe For Medical Tourism?

#India's Sun Pharmaceutical’s factory in #Gujarat gets #FDA warning for quality issues. #Pharma India’s Sun Pharmaceutical Gets FDA Warning - WSJ via @WSJ

Sun Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., India’s largest drugmaker by sales, said Saturday that one of its factories is under increased scrutiny from U.S. regulators.

The generic-drug maker’s factory in Halol, in the western Indian state of Gujarat, received a warning letter from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Warning letters are issued when the FDA isn't satisfied with a drugmaker’s plan to fix quality issues spotted by the regulator.

This is the latest setback for India’s pharmaceutical companies, which have struggled with quality issues under the increased scrutiny from the FDA. Indian companies account for around 40% of generic drug sales in the U.S.

U.S. inspectors in September last year said they were concerned with how Sun Pharma workers at its plant handled quality-test data and the plant’s “sterile environment,” said Dilip Shanghvi, Sun Pharma’s managing director.

If Sun Pharma is unable to assure the FDA that it can fix the problems, the regulator will issue an import alert, barring that factory from producing medicines for the U.S.

Sun Pharma makes some of its most profitable products at the Halol factory, including pre-filled syringes that need to manufactured in a sterile environment.

The Halol factory is continuing to produce drugs as it tries to fix quality issues, better train its staff and automate more of the manufacturing process, Mr. Shanghvi said.

The company has already moved production of some of the drugs produced at Halol to mitigate any impact on sales should the Halol plant be unable to export to the U.S., he said.

A deadly epidemic that could have global implications is quietly sweeping India, and among its many victims are tens of thousands of newborns dying because once-miraculous cures no longer work.

These infants are born with bacterial infections that are resistant to most known antibiotics, and more than 58,000 died last year as a result, a recent study found. While that is still a fraction of the nearly 800,000 newborns who die annually in India, Indian pediatricians say that the rising toll of resistant infections could soon swamp efforts to improve India’s abysmal infant death rate. Nearly a third of the world’s newborn deaths occur in India.

“Reducing newborn deaths in India is one of the most important public health priorities in the world, and this will require treating an increasing number of neonates who have sepsis and pneumonia,” said Dr. Vinod Paul, chief of pediatrics at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences and the leader of the study. “But if resistant infections keep growing, that progress could slow, stop or even reverse itself. And that would be a disaster for not only India but the entire world.”

In visits to neonatal intensive care wards in five Indian states, doctors reported being overwhelmed by such cases.

“Five years ago, we almost never saw these kinds of infections,” said Dr. Neelam Kler, chairwoman of the department of neonatology at New Delhi’s Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, one of India’s most prestigious private hospitals. “Now, close to 100 percent of the babies referred to us have multidrug resistant infections. It’s scary.”

These babies are part of a disquieting outbreak. A growing chorus of researchers say the evidence is now overwhelming that a significant share of the bacteria present in India — in its water, sewage, animals, soil and even its mothers — are immune to nearly all antibiotics.

Newborns are particularly vulnerable because their immune systems are fragile, leaving little time for doctors to find a drug that works. But everyone is at risk. Uppalapu Shrinivas, one of India’s most famous musicians, died Sept. 19 at age 45 because of an infection that doctors could not cure.

While far from alone in creating antibiotic resistance, India’s resistant infections have already begun to migrate elsewhere.

“India’s dreadful sanitation, uncontrolled use of antibiotics and overcrowding coupled with a complete lack of monitoring the problem has created a tsunami of antibiotic resistance that is reaching just about every country in the world,” said Dr. Timothy R. Walsh, a professor of microbiology at Cardiff University.

Indeed, researchers have already found “superbugs” carrying a genetic code first identified in India — NDM1 (or New Delhi metallo-beta lactamase 1) —around the world, including in France, Japan, Oman and the United States.

Anju Thakur’s daughter, born prematurely a year ago, was one of the epidemic’s victims in Amravati, a city in central India. Doctors assured Ms. Thakur that her daughter, despite weighing just four pounds, would be fine. Her husband gave sweets to neighbors in celebration.

Three days later, Ms. Thakur knew something was wrong. Her daughter’s stomach swelled, her limbs stiffened and her skin thickened — classic signs of a blood infection. As a precaution, doctors had given the baby two powerful antibiotics soon after birth. Doctors switched to other antibiotics and switched again. Nothing worked. Ms. Thakur gave a puja, or prayer, to the goddess Durga, but the baby’s condition worsened. She died, just seven days old.

“We tried everything we could,” said Dr. Swapnil Talvekar, the pediatrician who treated her. Ms. Thakur was inconsolable. “I never thought I’d stop crying,” she said.

A test later revealed that the infection was immune to almost every antibiotic. The child’s rapid death meant the bacteria probably came from her mother, doctors said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/w...-babies-and-pose-an-overseas-threat.html?_r=0
 
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LOL then do you know GDP of that 600 sq km land is almost equal to your country's whole GDP.
Stop embarrasing yourself with your sweeping comments and stop this d1ck measurement.
If you want to know what's in India, come visit us if you can get a visa.


While the rich like the Ambanis live in Mumbai and their stocks traded at the city's stock exchange, the vast majority of Indians toil on farms. These poor farmers are in such despair that one farmer commits suicide every 30 minutes.

Haq's Musings: India's Agrarian Crisis: A Farmer Commits Suicide Every 30 Minutes
 
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The safety concerns about India go beyond the fear of being burned in a fire. Other major concerns include:

1. Fake pharmaceuticals are a big worry. In fact, 75 percent of counterfeit drugs supplied world over have origins in India, according to a report released by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

2. Lack of proper hygiene contributes to a large number of infections in hospital settings. A recent investigation into the death of 13 women in a Rajasthan hospital found that the poor hygiene standard in the hospital were flagrantly overlooked, according to Times of India.


Haq's Musings: Is India Safe For Medical Tourism?

#India's Sun Pharmaceutical’s factory in #Gujarat gets #FDA warning for quality issues. #Pharma India’s Sun Pharmaceutical Gets FDA Warning - WSJ via @WSJ

Sun Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd., India’s largest drugmaker by sales, said Saturday that one of its factories is under increased scrutiny from U.S. regulators.

The generic-drug maker’s factory in Halol, in the western Indian state of Gujarat, received a warning letter from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Warning letters are issued when the FDA isn't satisfied with a drugmaker’s plan to fix quality issues spotted by the regulator.

This is the latest setback for India’s pharmaceutical companies, which have struggled with quality issues under the increased scrutiny from the FDA. Indian companies account for around 40% of generic drug sales in the U.S.

U.S. inspectors in September last year said they were concerned with how Sun Pharma workers at its plant handled quality-test data and the plant’s “sterile environment,” said Dilip Shanghvi, Sun Pharma’s managing director.

If Sun Pharma is unable to assure the FDA that it can fix the problems, the regulator will issue an import alert, barring that factory from producing medicines for the U.S.

Sun Pharma makes some of its most profitable products at the Halol factory, including pre-filled syringes that need to manufactured in a sterile environment.

The Halol factory is continuing to produce drugs as it tries to fix quality issues, better train its staff and automate more of the manufacturing process, Mr. Shanghvi said.

The company has already moved production of some of the drugs produced at Halol to mitigate any impact on sales should the Halol plant be unable to export to the U.S., he said.

A deadly epidemic that could have global implications is quietly sweeping India, and among its many victims are tens of thousands of newborns dying because once-miraculous cures no longer work.

These infants are born with bacterial infections that are resistant to most known antibiotics, and more than 58,000 died last year as a result, a recent study found. While that is still a fraction of the nearly 800,000 newborns who die annually in India, Indian pediatricians say that the rising toll of resistant infections could soon swamp efforts to improve India’s abysmal infant death rate. Nearly a third of the world’s newborn deaths occur in India.

“Reducing newborn deaths in India is one of the most important public health priorities in the world, and this will require treating an increasing number of neonates who have sepsis and pneumonia,” said Dr. Vinod Paul, chief of pediatrics at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences and the leader of the study. “But if resistant infections keep growing, that progress could slow, stop or even reverse itself. And that would be a disaster for not only India but the entire world.”

In visits to neonatal intensive care wards in five Indian states, doctors reported being overwhelmed by such cases.

“Five years ago, we almost never saw these kinds of infections,” said Dr. Neelam Kler, chairwoman of the department of neonatology at New Delhi’s Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, one of India’s most prestigious private hospitals. “Now, close to 100 percent of the babies referred to us have multidrug resistant infections. It’s scary.”

These babies are part of a disquieting outbreak. A growing chorus of researchers say the evidence is now overwhelming that a significant share of the bacteria present in India — in its water, sewage, animals, soil and even its mothers — are immune to nearly all antibiotics.

Newborns are particularly vulnerable because their immune systems are fragile, leaving little time for doctors to find a drug that works. But everyone is at risk. Uppalapu Shrinivas, one of India’s most famous musicians, died Sept. 19 at age 45 because of an infection that doctors could not cure.

While far from alone in creating antibiotic resistance, India’s resistant infections have already begun to migrate elsewhere.

“India’s dreadful sanitation, uncontrolled use of antibiotics and overcrowding coupled with a complete lack of monitoring the problem has created a tsunami of antibiotic resistance that is reaching just about every country in the world,” said Dr. Timothy R. Walsh, a professor of microbiology at Cardiff University.

Indeed, researchers have already found “superbugs” carrying a genetic code first identified in India — NDM1 (or New Delhi metallo-beta lactamase 1) —around the world, including in France, Japan, Oman and the United States.

Anju Thakur’s daughter, born prematurely a year ago, was one of the epidemic’s victims in Amravati, a city in central India. Doctors assured Ms. Thakur that her daughter, despite weighing just four pounds, would be fine. Her husband gave sweets to neighbors in celebration.

Three days later, Ms. Thakur knew something was wrong. Her daughter’s stomach swelled, her limbs stiffened and her skin thickened — classic signs of a blood infection. As a precaution, doctors had given the baby two powerful antibiotics soon after birth. Doctors switched to other antibiotics and switched again. Nothing worked. Ms. Thakur gave a puja, or prayer, to the goddess Durga, but the baby’s condition worsened. She died, just seven days old.

“We tried everything we could,” said Dr. Swapnil Talvekar, the pediatrician who treated her. Ms. Thakur was inconsolable. “I never thought I’d stop crying,” she said.

A test later revealed that the infection was immune to almost every antibiotic. The child’s rapid death meant the bacteria probably came from her mother, doctors said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/w...-babies-and-pose-an-overseas-threat.html?_r=0

Lol india is the world's largest generic drug maker and even one chinese member in pdf told that they are consuming indian drugs than chinese.

Do i want to remind you the 2012 incident in your country of having fake drug incident in which 100 patients died !

2012 Pakistan fake medicine crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By the way instead of blaming india is like this and like that Where is pakistan stand on my all discussions as above, be mumbai,be where india stands on parameters and discussion related to pharma industry just above?

While the rich like the Ambanis live in Mumbai and their stocks traded at the city's stock exchange, the vast majority of Indians toil on farms. These poor farmers are in such despair that one farmer commits suicide every 30 minutes.

Haq's Musings: India's Agrarian Crisis: A Farmer Commits Suicide Every 30 Minutes

But they are not died as of terrorism or gun fire normally seen daily no matter some one is rich or poor

Actually i am a fool comparing India with pakistan and that's why can't find much indian members on this thread.
 
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You dont even know the basic history of Delhi. It has been built and razed seven times. At its earliest it was called Indraprastha. That was 2000-3000 year ago. Islam under Prophet Muhammad had not even started.

Dont get me started about Pakistan. Your entire country has borne the burnt of scores of invaders in its history. You seem to be the only people in whole world who are proud of the invaders that pillaged and ravaged their nation!

It is better you stick with the Delhi, the city founded by Muslim rulers of India :) And when the history repeats itself, you will get a new capital city.
 
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Lol india is the world's largest generic drug maker and even one chinese member in pdf told that they are consuming indian drugs than chinese.

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But they are not died as of terrorism or gun fire normally seen daily no matter some one is rich or poor

Actually i am a fool comparing India with pakistan and that's why can't find much indian members on this thread.

Currently, India imports over 80-85% of API, or raw material used in medicines, from China. This is crucial because any kind of tension or adverse circumstances between the two countries have potential to lead to a crisis in public health in India. Experts say China has antagonized many of its neighbours in the past and India should take a call based on its economic and strategic relationship with the country.

Overdependence on China for drug ingredients worries NSA - Times of India

Dead is dead, regardless of cause. Premature mortality is still early death. And India has higher rates of early deaths than Pakistan, according to WHO.
 
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It is better you stick with the Delhi, the city founded by Muslim rulers of India :) And when the history repeats itself, you will get a new capital city.

Well, didn't surprised about your intelligence. :lol:
 
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Currently, India imports over 80-85% of API, or raw material used in medicines, from China. This is crucial because any kind of tension or adverse circumstances between the two countries have potential to lead to a crisis in public health in India. Experts say China has antagonized many of its neighbours in the past and India should take a call based on its economic and strategic relationship with the country.

Overdependence on China for drug ingredients worries NSA - Times of India

Dead is dead, regardless of cause. Premature mortality is still early death. And India has higher rates of early deaths than Pakistan, according to WHO.

You are still funny,those are concerns and chinese are not that fool to loose the market opportunity in india by having hostile of not supplying ingredients especially trade figures favours them.India can get the ingredients from other source of course will be more expensive to us.This also shows that we are more smarter than them, when it comes to pharma industry.

By the way the revenue figures of Sun pharma company(I am not talking ambani or tata etc but a pharmaceutical company) is 24 billion dollar in 2016 and is almost equivalent to the export figure of pakistan and so you can understand the place of pakistan vs india.

Not only indian pharma companies eying business abroad,but also indian port/mining giants like adani struck a deal of 16 billion dollar of queensland coal project (Australia) even under severe objection from environmentalists.So not only tata,birla,reliance like monsters but also several indian companies increasing the foot hold in many countries and proud moment for indians.

I know india is a big market but even based on proportion also pakistan or pakistani companies do not have any match.
 
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It is better you stick with the Delhi, the city founded by Muslim rulers of India :) And when the history repeats itself, you will get a new capital city.
Um...I understand if Pakistanis raised in Pakistan have bad history on account for doctored books, but does having a Pakistani family prevent you from reading even in the United States?

Delhi was founded way before any Muslim ever even existed. It was called Indraprastha before Delhi and there are other names preceeding even Indraprastha.
 
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Telling old story does not have any use, just to have some mental satisfaction.India was least developed countries in 70's and 80's and look where we stand right now in 2016.

1. India is the 7th largest economy by nominal and 3rd largest by GDP PPP

2. India is the 3rd largest producer of electricity, the state like gujarat produce more electricity than whole pakistan

3. India now become 3rd largest consumer of oil overtaking japan

4. India going to overtake japan in 2016 as the 2nd largest producer of steel

5. India road and rail network is one of the biggest in the world

6. India is one of the biggest Software and Pharmaceutical industry in the world

7. India is one of the biggest producer of cement and coal

8. India have one of the largest pool of engineers,doctors,technicians in the world

9. India is one of the biggest soft power in the world

10. India is home to largest film industry in the world

11. India is having the biggest remittance figure in the world

12. India is the top producer of many agricultural products,Milk in the world

13. India is the 4th most powerful military in the world

14. India is home to one of the largest billionaires in the world

15. India is the first country in the world to send mars probe in first attempt

16. India is the largest consumer of gold

17. India is one of the biggest space power

18. India is home to the largest refinery in the world

19. India is the fastest growing major economy in the world

Now you can compare where india was all above parameters in 60's,70's and 80's and where we reach now.You can also see where pakistan lying in above parameters today.


again u started bull shit of 4th biggest nominal gdp lol dear tell me whats the condition of poors there ?? you guys have 1.2 billion population bomb and holds half of world's poor in your country pakistan surely cant match your figures as our population is way below than yours pakistan is also developing we are not sitting laying eggs our economy will be in top 20s in next 20 to 25 years we are going to be trade hub of the region and on the pace pakistan is developing its infrastructure like highways , motorways , experss ways is part of pakistan it a trade hub , as i told u guys before we have every major city connected with each other with network of a separate motorways where slower vehicles and two wheels are not allowed to ride these are high speed motorways with a state of the art police system which u guys can only dream happeining in ur whole country lol

LOL then do you know GDP of that 600 sq km land is almost equal to your country's whole GDP.
Stop embarrasing yourself with your sweeping comments and stop this d1ck measurement.
If you want to know what's in India, come visit us if you can get a visa.


yeah and that 600 sq km land also hosts the biggest slum of asia :D

You dont even know the basic history of Delhi. It has been built and razed seven times. At its earliest it was called Indraprastha. That was 2000-3000 year ago. Islam under Prophet Muhammad had not even started.

Dont get me started about Pakistan. Your entire country has borne the burnt of scores of invaders in its history. You seem to be the only people in whole world who are proud of the invaders that pillaged and ravaged their nation!


you mean to say delhi was capital of Indus civilization ?? :o::o:
 
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again u started bull shit of 4th biggest nominal gdp lol dear tell me whats the condition of poors there ?? you guys have 1.2 billion population bomb and holds half of world's poor in your country pakistan surely cant match your figures as our population is way below than yours pakistan is also developing we are not sitting laying eggs our economy will be in top 20s in next 20 to 25 years we are going to be trade hub of the region and on the pace pakistan is developing its infrastructure like highways , motorways , experss ways is part of pakistan it a trade hub , as i told u guys before we have every major city connected with each other with network of a separate motorways where slower vehicles and two wheels are not allowed to ride these are high speed motorways with a state of the art police system which u guys can only dream happeining in ur whole country lol




yeah and that 600 sq km land also hosts the biggest slum of asia :D




you mean to say delhi was capital of Indus civilization ?? :o::o:

Lol when your country become top 20, india will be a 3rd largest economy in the world overtaking Japan and 3rd most powerful country after US,China in every aspect.
 
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Um...I understand if Pakistanis raised in Pakistan have bad history on account for doctored books, but does having a Pakistani family prevent you from reading even in the United States?

Delhi was founded way before any Muslim ever even existed. It was called Indraprastha before Delhi and there are other names preceeding even Indraprastha.

We are talking about recorded history, not myths!!!

The real history of Delhi begins with the Muslim Sultanates.

As to the reference to Orangi, the fact is that Orangi is nothing like Dharavi in terms of the quality of its housing or the services available to its residents. This report appears to be nothing but a shameful attempt by Mumbai's municipality to hide its own inadequacies by diverting the attention of the world to the biggest city of India's neighbor and arch rival Pakistan. What is even more disturbing is how the UNDP has become a party to this misleading claim. This preposterous claim is also an insult to the memory of Dr. Akhtar Hamid Khan who organized Orangi Pilot Project (OPP) and tirelessly worked with the residents on self-help model to improve their lives.

While Dharavi has only one toilet per 1440 residents and most of its residents use Mahim Creek, a local river, for urination and defecation, Orangi has an elaborate sanitation system built by its citizens. Under Orangi Pilot Project's guidance, between 1981 and 1993 Orangi residents installed sewers serving 72,070 of 94,122 houses. To achieve this, community members spent more than US$2 million of their own money, and OPP invested about US$150,000 in research and extension of new technologies. Orangi pilot project has been admired widely for its work with urban poor.


Haq's Musings: Orangi is not Dharavi!
 
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We are talking about recorded history, not myths!!!

The real history of Delhi begins with the Muslim Sultanates.

As to the reference to Orangi, the fact is that Orangi is nothing like Dharavi in terms of the quality of its housing or the services available to its residents. This report appears to be nothing but a shameful attempt by Mumbai's municipality to hide its own inadequacies by diverting the attention of the world to the biggest city of India's neighbor and arch rival Pakistan. What is even more disturbing is how the UNDP has become a party to this misleading claim. This preposterous claim is also an insult to the memory of Dr. Akhtar Hamid Khan who organized Orangi Pilot Project (OPP) and tirelessly worked with the residents on self-help model to improve their lives.

While Dharavi has only one toilet per 1440 residents and most of its residents use Mahim Creek, a local river, for urination and defecation, Orangi has an elaborate sanitation system built by its citizens. Under Orangi Pilot Project's guidance, between 1981 and 1993 Orangi residents installed sewers serving 72,070 of 94,122 houses. To achieve this, community members spent more than US$2 million of their own money, and OPP invested about US$150,000 in research and extension of new technologies. Orangi pilot project has been admired widely for its work with urban poor.


Haq's Musings: Orangi is not Dharavi!

True. Cities like Melbourne, Vienna, Vancouver, Karachi, Zurich, San Francisco, etc. are in a different league! :)
 
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