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Israel's Struggle for Peace

which Israel, in a a admitted bid to push Gaza to a humanitarian crisis, has gobbled up to set up a "buffer zone".
Again false flag RFS_clown proved to me a pathological liar. His own link says that Israeli intention is AVOIDING humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Israel and peace are two opposite terms, please solomon stop jocking, it's no more fun now---Pakistanis won't change their opinion about israel, it will be as it was a Terrorist state from the beginning !
Israel gave up territory 3 times bigger than its own for sake of peace.
 
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Cool story bro, been hearing that story for decades now. The only thing you run is your mouth.

I appreciate your Javier Bardem avatar.

No country for Old Men?

Again false flag RFS_clown proved to me a pathological liar. His own link says that Israeli intention is AVOIDING humanitarian crisis in Gaza.


Israel gave up territory 3 times bigger than its own for sake of peace.


I am curious as to why you joined Pakistani Defence Forum. Don't get me wrong, I love Israel because it is an oasis of liberal values in a sea of irrational conservatism.

Pakistan is one of the most anti western countries there is.
 
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Again false flag RFS_clown proved to me a pathological liar. His own link says that Israeli intention is AVOIDING humanitarian crisis in Gaza.


Israel gave up territory 3 times bigger than its own for sake of peace.

No it said Israel's intention is to keep the economy at a brink of collapse. As if you're good for wanting horrible conditions but not so much where it's a enormous humanitarian crisis.

Again false flag RFS_clown proved to me a pathological liar. His own link says that Israeli intention is AVOIDING humanitarian crisis in Gaza.


Israel gave up territory 3 times bigger than its own for sake of peace.

Sinai was never your land and it was for the sake of peace with a neighboring country. That in itself is a whole different context. Peace with an occupied people's is something Israel is not likely to accomplish. In fact they keep expanding the occupation every day.
 
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Struggle for peace

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Palestinians rough up settlers in West Bank



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    Palestinians from the village of Qusra (front) surround a group of Israeli settlers at a construction site, who sparked clashes after entering the village near Nablus, in the Israeli occupied West Bank, on Tuesday. (AFP)
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Published — Wednesday 8 January 2014

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QUSRA, Palestinian Territories: Palestinians beat and detained several Israeli settlers who had sparked clashes after entering their village near the West Bank city of Nablus Tuesday, eyewitnesses and officials said.
At one point, Israeli soldiers were negotiating the release of some 13 settlers from a house in Qusra village, where they were being held, an AFP correspondent said.
Palestinian security sources told AFP the settlers were eventually released and handed to the Israeli Army.
Village council head Abdul Azim Wadi confirmed the incident but said only eight settlers were detained.
The area south of Nablus, in the northern West Bank, is the scene of frequent clashes between Palestinians and Jewish settlers, who live in nearby settlements.

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West Bank Palestinians say protected settlers from locals' revenge


Residents of West Bank village of Qusra say settlers confronting Palestinians due to evacuation of outpost attacked boy. Palestinian activists say prevented locals from attacking settlers in revenge for boy's injuries

Yoav Zitun

Published: 01.07.14, 18:29 / Israel News

Eleven settlers who entered the West Bank village of Qusra, south of Nablus, said they were attacked by a group of Palestinians on Tuesday. Several of the settlers said they sustained bruises as a result of the attacks.

According to the settlers, the attack was the result of clashes that took place earlier between settlers and Palestinians over security forces' evacuation of an illegal structure near the Esh Kodesh outpost.

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Palestinian residents of the village however said the settlers entered their village, and attacked a young boy, who sustained head injuries as a result. Once the boy was attacked, the Palestinians said, several Qusra residents rushed to his defense and stopped the settlers.

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IDF stated on Tuesday morning, "the tenants of an illegal structure in Esh Kodesh were evicted. Following the eviction, violent clashes emerged between dozens of settlers and Palestinians, including stone hurling. At the same time, several settlers approached the nearby village of Jalud, where another clash ensued. According to a preliminary report, several settlers were rescued by IDF troops after staying in a building in the village. Several of the settlers were evacuated with light to moderate injuries."

Elior Levy contributed to this report.
 
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Canadian MP Cotler calls to dismantle UNRWA
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01/15/2014 02:01

Irwin Cotler says Arab League should incorporate question of Jewish refugees in its framework for peace.
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IRWIN COTLER addressing ‘Jerusalem Post’ editors Photo: Steve Linde
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency, the international body dealing with Palestinian refugees, should be disbanded, MP and former Canadian justice minister Irwin Cotler demanded this week.

“Jurisdiction over the Palestinian refugees should be transferred from UNWRA, which, frankly, continues to engage patterns of incitement against Israel and in misrepresentation of the truth,” Cotler said at an event in Jerusalem on Monday staged by the World Jewish Congress' Israel Council on Foreign Relations. The former Canadian justice minister delivered a speech about the Jewish refugees exiled from the Arab states following the establishment of the State of Israel.

Responsibility for dealing with the Palestinians should be transferred to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, which handles all other refugee populations, he said.

“There is no reason why there should be one separate body dealing with Palestinian refugees where all other refugees in the world are under the jurisdiction of the United Nations commissioner for refugees, which is where Palestinian refugees also belong,” Cotler insisted.

He added that the “Arab League should incorporate the question of Jewish refugees as part of its framework for an Israeli- Arab peace in the same way that the Jewish narrative incorporates the Palestinian refugees,” and that the government of Israel insist that in “any and all discussions between the negotiating parties, any reference to Palestinian refugees must also include express reference to Jewish refugees.”

It is “high time that the forced exodus of Jews from Arab lands be introduced to the international agenda after the unconscionable neglect of the issue for six decades,” he declared.

This is not the first time that Cotler has called for the end of UNRWA or for recognition and redress for the 850,000 Jewish refugees of the Israeli-Arab conflict; he said so in almost identical words in an op-ed in The Jerusalem Post three years ago.

Israel, Cotler insisted, must do more to raise the issue of Jewish refugees during its dealings with international bodies.

“The [UN’s} annual November 29th commemoration [of the Palestinian defeat in 1948] and the 2014 Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People must be an annual day and now a year of solidarity with the Jewish people as well as with the Palestinian.

If the UN is not going to do it, then the Jewish people, in conjunction with men and women of goodwill, must launch our own year of truth and justice and solidarity.”

In response to Cotler’s comments, MK Shimon Ohayon told the Post that he hoped to soon pass a law “to create a day of commemoration and education about the Jewish refugees from Arab countries.”

“The Foreign Ministry under Avigdor Liberman has pressed the issue on the international stage, creating a now annual event at the UN in New York devoted to the issue which is attended by foreign ambassadors, and communiques were sent to all our foreign-based representatives to raise the issue with their interlocutors where relevant,” the lawmaker said.

While a 2010 law mandates that the Jewish refugees be brought up during any negotiations with the PLO , Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, who is in charge of the current talks, reportedly told World Jewish Congress officials that she would not raise the issue.

Also during Monday’s meeting, Dr. Harold Rhode, the former Middle East analyst at the US Defense Department who found a large collection of documents in Baghdad confiscated from the now exiled Iraqi Jewish population, insisted that his discovery not be returned to Baghdad later this year as agreed by the US government.

“Sending the material back to Baghdad would be comparable to the US returning to the German government Jewish property that had been looted by the Nazis,” Rhode insisted.

The documents, which the Hussein regime confiscated from the Jewish community, were discovered by coalition forces in the basement of the headquarters of the Mukhabarat, or secret police, in 2003 and document centuries of life in Mesopotamia. A portion of the documents, which are being restored, are on display at the US National Archives in Washington, and are due to be returned to Iraq within months.
 
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Perhaps it is time to re-consider the one-state solution. Call the one nation Israel. Make it a non-religious state with very, very tough rules on those who perpetrate violence. All faiths would have equal civil rights and responsibilities. Timely and fair use of the death penalty for any criminals who use violence against others might weed out the most undesirable and let the rest of Israeli society get on with improving the nation. Present Israelis would have to give up the concept that Israel is a Jewish state and present Palestinians would have to give up the concept of replacing Israel with a non-Jewish state.
 
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If Israel is looking for international support for its position, maybe it should try follwing international laws.

Refusing to follow international laws and sticking to its stubborn interpretations naturally does not get israel any supporters.
Asking for continued international support based on exaggerated threats to Isreal does start to sound ridiculous after a while .

Dismantling the wall and settlements and sitting down with Palestinians for talks would at least show the world Israel is serious about peace.
 
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If Israel is looking for international support for its position, maybe it should try follwing international laws.
The thing is, Israel does follow international law; it's merely accused of not doing so, or else international laws (like the Geneva Conventions) are twisted into something unrecognizable that then is only applied to Israel and not others - which means it isn't law at all.

It's the difference between what things are and what they are called. This is one of the things the Canadian above is trying to remedy.

Perhaps it is time to re-consider the one-state solution. Call the one nation Israel. Make it a non-religious state with very, very tough rules on those who perpetrate violence. All faiths would have equal civil rights and responsibilities. Timely and fair use of the death penalty for any criminals who use violence against others might weed out the most undesirable and let the rest of Israeli society get on with improving the nation. Present Israelis would have to give up the concept that Israel is a Jewish state and present Palestinians would have to give up the concept of replacing Israel with a non-Jewish state.
Rather than try the experiment out between two peoples where one - the Palestinians - have vowed to eliminate the other - the Israelis - why not try it people who are good neighbors, like the U.S. and Canadians, or maybe the English and Scots?
 
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Israel's struggle for peace ! ! ! aaaaaaaaaaahaaaahahaha :lol: the joke of human history,oh sorry they have different definition of peace because they are chosen one :jester:
 
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If Israel is looking for international support for its position, maybe it should try follwing international laws.

Refusing to follow international laws and sticking to its stubborn interpretations naturally does not get israel any supporters.
Asking for continued international support based on exaggerated threats to Isreal does start to sound ridiculous after a while .

Dismantling the wall and settlements and sitting down with Palestinians for talks would at least show the world Israel is serious about peace.
Dismantling the walls would jeopardize Israeli lives. The wall barely keeps two mutually hating communities away from each other. It is essential for now at least. Besides, lets face it - the world does not care much for the Jews. So there is a tendency to trust no one among the Jewish leadership other than their own strength. That's what they are projecting - strength.

True - the wall does jeopardize Arab lives. But then it's all relative, isn't it? A jihadi will wish for the electrified fence in Kashmir to disappear - right? :azn:
 
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Israel's struggle for peace ! ! ! aaaaaaaaaaahaaaahahaha :lol: the joke of human history,oh sorry they have different definition of peace because they are chosen one :jester:
Jealousy? Envy? Read up on that here: link

Give us your definition of "peace", please.
 
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Jealousy? Envy? Read up on that here: link

Give us your definition of "peace", please.
what jealousy ?:sarcastic: do not need to read , i know what is happening there, i personally met Israelis even with IDF member, Palestine ppl, Lebanese ppl :D
 
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