Israelis are patent champions - but do not enjoy them

[dani191]

Old report on US mil aid to israel.

Joint ventures, funded by US.
Example: 500 million for missile development.
Almost 200 million for davids sling.
70+ million for iron dome.
300 mil for arrow.

And alot and lots more.

200 billion USD well spent on propping up israel.

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL33222.html

so if pakistan will get that money to defence so ?

 

[jamahir]

give me one example where socielizem work?

Libya and Afghanistan. And I don't know why you are not counting USSR.

Edit : Add the direct democracy experiment started by Chavez.

 

[vostok]

The Indian city of Bangalure ( now Bengaluru ) is called Silicon Valley of India yet it has produced nothing in the field of computing except IT services.

These companies in Bangalore have no government involvement.



@vostok, what is your opinion ?

My opinion is we are living in some sort of contr-reformation or contr-revolution period when new progressive formation (socialism), not mature, was for a while pushed by previous regressive, but mature, formation - capitalism. There were few periods in history when civilisation made step back for a while before make step forward.
After AI will become enough powerful to refresh global economic plan (new form of Gosplan) in 24 hours no "free market" can not come even close in efficiency to planned economy. And the time is quite close.

 

[Psychic]

Libya and Afghanistan

LMAO

 

[jamahir]

My opinion is we are living in some sort of contr-reformation or contr-revolution period when new progressive formation (socialism), not mature, was for a while pushed by previous regressive, but mature, formation - capitalism. There were few periods in history when civilisation made step back for a while before make step forward.

Got your point.

After AI will become enough powerful to refresh global economic plan in 24 hours

In my opinion AI is not necessary for economics.

no "free market" can not come even close efficiency to planned economy.

Agreed.

And the time is quite close.

I too think so. I have created the structure of a new socialist economic system. Please go through it and leave your comment there. This is the thread.

LMAO

A man in space, advanced education especially for the women, general progress.

But the war, led by the Western governments and unfortunately by China, did not allow the developments to succeed.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Israel has received aid worth HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars over the previous decades, for such a small population and small geographical area, that is a massive amount of money.

If you translate that aid and adjusted for population and geographical size of other countries, every country in the world would become a developed country within a couple of decades.

Not just money, Israel received access to the latest technology, which helped them leap ahead in their domestic technological development because they were able to jump ahead a few steps by acquiring technology and developing a good industrial and technological base.

America even gave military aid for Israel to purchase Israeli produced military equipment, no other country in the world has received such treatment, that allows Israel to maintain and develop a good domestic military-industrial complex.

Good for Israel, but it is important to keep things in perspective.
Not a single country in the world has received such a level of support.

American Jews and Israeli-Americans are massively over-represented in key US technological farms specially those are defence related. So Israel is getting the fruits of hundreds of billions of dollars of R&D spending of US which in otherwise would have been impossible for Israel to match even for a small fraction by it's own. So what US develop, Israel get them automatically. No other country come anything remotely close of getting this diffusion/leaking of US technology like Israel. Despite USA keep it's all door open for Israel, still Israel spy on US technology to extract the last bit of data from it's benefactor. So, whenever we say, 'Israeli technology' we always to need to remember that, it is just the tip of iceberg.

 

[vostok]

In my opinion AI is not necessary for economics.

In 30's-60's planned economy was more efficient than capitalist one (up to 30% growth a year) because of better planning. But in 60's the amount of economical units (spares, industrial equipment, household goods and so on) became to high and people in Gosplan simply could not calculate efficient plan - they simply did not keep pace with progress, and this difference became bigger every year. For planned economy to become more efficient than capitalist one you need to have global national economy plan refreshing every day - I believe it is difficult to make it without AI.

 

[jamahir]

In 30's-60's planned economy was more efficient than capitalist one (up to 30% growth a year) because of better planning. But in 60's the amount of economical units (spares, industrial equipment, household goods and so on) became to high and people in Gosplan simply could not calculate efficient plan - they simply did not keep pace with progress, and this difference became bigger every year.

OK.

For planned economy to become more efficient than capitalist one you need to have global national economy plan refreshing every day - I believe it is difficult to make it without AI.

1. What do you mean by refresh ? Can you give an example ?

2. Instead of top-down planning what do you think of provision for decentralized economic requests ( from neighborhoods and cities ) to the top-level economic resources distributor ? This was being done in Libya until 2011.

3. Please go through my thread which I linked.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Why not ? Take the case of SpaceX. It is small organization compared to the government space agencies of India, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia etc but look at the achievements and ambition of SpaceX.

But you can tell me your opinion.

Small effective teams costs a lot. Because everyone knows the work.
Larger teams, for same work, usually means, most of the team members are not fully compitent.
That's Was answer to first question.
Why people dont return to third world.
To make someone a bigshot, it requires equipment, factories, design houses, vendors, fellow bigshot, and ofcourse directed funds.
So you see, kia karaingy wapas aaker. Phir jana paryga.

 

[vostok]

OK.



1. What do you mean by refresh ? Can you give an example ?

For example - last year builders used 1 mln pieces of ceramic bricks and build 100 5-stores houses, 10% more than previous year. Next year we must produce 1,1 mln pieces. But in April they decide to use silicate bricks and build 7-stores houses. You need to make improvements in global plan, calculate it from beginning. And you will have 1 bln those improvements and every year more and more because every year humanity invent more material units.

2. Instead of top-down planning what do you think of provision for decentralized economic requests ( from neighborhoods and cities ) to the top-level economic resources distributor ? This was being done in Libya until 2011.

Libya never was industrial power and it is small state so they could use simple solutions. But those local plans surely will be taken into account in global plan.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Asked a simple question, name a few critical projects that dont involve freebie funding?

Most of Israeli inventions came from the private section, I wouldn't call them projects.
The Lavi, Merkava, all Israeli light arms, Trophy and Iron Fist, all Israeli drones were designed in Israel, and apart from engines in the Merkava and Lavi, were completely Israeli.

Private sector made a bunch of more inventions, like Waze, Disk on Key, a bunch of spy software etc etc.

Old report on US mil aid to israel.

Joint ventures, funded by US.
Example: 500 million for missile development.
Almost 200 million for davids sling.
70+ million for iron dome.
300 mil for arrow.

And alot and lots more.

200 billion USD well spent on propping up israel.

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RL33222.html

Those projects cost tens of billions, and the US funds them only on the millions. They're codeveloped by both nations.

 

[Psychic]

But the war, led by the Western governments and unfortunately by China, did not allow the developments to succeed.

The war was imposed by the Soviets and their puppets on the people. The rest what you mentioned was nothing but gimmickry to give a cover to the project of exploitation of that country's natural resources. [Real Progress isn't measured by the length of women's skirts BTW; which was worn only by the Westoxified elite, not representative of the nation at all]

Your commies erased entire villages from the map; villages which had been there for centuries. Mines were indiscriminately laid and dropped from the air(butterfly mines) with total disregard for civilian population that led to the maiming and deaths of thousands of [especially] women and children. War crimes conveniently ignored by the likes of yourself.

The agenda was nothing but to occupy Muslim land just like the Central Asian Khannates were occupied and Muslims residing there were forced to close mosques and abandon their faith altogether. Those Central Asian commie heavens are in tatters by the way, and they do not resemble the utopia which you claim communism brings. The entire eco system of the Transoxania was decimated by the Soviets; the death of the Aral is the world's worst environmental disaster which was brought about by your idols.

The Central Asian countries is a reflection of what communism ultimately leads to. Thugs and strongmen becoming presidents and ruthlessly hunting down all those who oppose them or expose their corruption. University, college and school kids forced to pick cotton in summer heat by the state machinery. Pervasive corruption, mismanagement, underdevelopment and economic crisis. That is what the after effects looks like.

Unfortunately, the Musalman of today is Muslim by name only as he is so deluded, defeatist and intellectually colonized that he tries to find salvation of his nation in Western political ideologies like communism, secularism and liberalism instead of reviving the Muslim political thought which is not only unique but also eternal and objectively right.
@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

LMAO

This Afghanistan?

 

[master_13]

they contribute in usa or other develop countries

even if you counting that, it's pretty insignificant, adding oversea Indian + Indian own patent, it's still nothing. The only thing Indian is good at is climb up the corporate rank in another English speaking country, and almost always at companies started by non-Indian, Indian simply rise in those companies as professional managers.