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India has different geopolitical and strategic necessities. In case of Pakistan, we have to be careful of the nukes falling in the hands of the Afghan taliban or the pak taliban, the bad taliban, the cute taliban, the al-qaeda or most importantly the state terror trader officials. Pakistan is a great ally in the WOT and it has sacrificed a lot to eradicate terrorism from this world. For the sake of a safer world, Pakistan should denuclearize to ensure that nukes dont fall in the wrong hands.

I think they should have included this condition in the aid package - A 5 year comprehensive program of peaceful nuclear disarmament in return for aid money for Pakistan people.

YOu forgot the non-muslim Indian Taliban
They are the most Active, and the most dangerous Taliban operating in Afganistan
Dressing up to be Muslim and then call them selves Muslim extremist (As if such an group exist - even its existance doesn't make sence when islam comes into it) Kiling fellow Pakistanis in Pakistan.

I wonder if Indai will give its nukes to the Taliban to put blame on Pakistan.

further more, When Pakistan is out of the picture it doesn't stop there, India will start another civil war in Sri Lanka another tamil tiger
therefore its paramount for Pakistan to survive and to keep its nuke from the Warmonger Nuclear India. Pakistan keeps the region stable and in peace
Pakistan keeps India in check
:D :pakistan: :china: :usflag: :pdf: :partay: :partay:
Like it or Lump it its the Truth and you know it ! :partay:
 
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This year, Bharat (aka India) has achieved the ignominious and unenviable distinction of being the state most at risk of failure. In many ways, Bharat has failed already, as the government lacks control of large tracks of the country. The loose coalition of various parties has led a corrupt and incompetent cabal of politicians that controls capital. Large tracks of Bharati territory are not in control of the Federal government. The government is not in control of the Naxalites, Kashmir, Assam and the states known as “The Seven Sisters“. The government troops have been routed and cannot control various states. The fighting has produced a clear victor–and it is not the Indian government. The country’s caste ethnic, and religious chaos continues unabated in the unruly states, while militants stalk the jungles and remote areas. The fighting has successfully produced is a refugee nightmare, with thousands homeless in Gujarat.

India’s disorder is generally eclipsed by the humanitarian disaster in Assam, Kashmir and Gujarat, a situation notable for its remarkable lack of progress. The spillover effects of this troubled region continue to pull Bangladesh and its neighbors closer to the brink, with worsening refugee crises around the region and escalating skirmishes between rebels in Nepal and Sri Lanka. All told, the South Asian Subcontinent is home to India–largest catastrophe on the planet. Bharat has consistently stayed on the top of the list of the failed states. The country ranking on this year’s index reflects the country’s out-of-control inflation, high unemployment, and the fact that thousands flee to states far away fromtheir home. The country’s fortunes, further spoiled by this year’s events in Mumbai are likely to continue to suffer before Indians can expect a respite.

The height of the U.S. military surge in Afghanistan was a key factor in this year’s analysis of that country. And though India’s score improved slightly, the gains that one might hope for—those that reflect fundamental, long-term changes—did not occur. The desperate predicament of millions people driven from their homes, the abysmal state of public services, and the discord among sectarian factions have shown no real improvement. The incremental security and economic progress that has occurred are dependent on tenuous, short-term factors that could unravel at any time. Eager to cobble together a fragile peace, the Hinduvata has armed dozens of new Hindu militia groups that could later turn their guns on the Indian government, their religious rivals, or the Central government in many states still regarded as occupiers. India’s economy has improved only moderately, thanks largely to the spike in multinational investment which is now very jittery. In short, progress in India last year was negligible at best and deeply susceptible to reversal should the country suffer the kind of shock—a food shortage, a high-level assassination, an attack that unleashes communal hatreds—that has exposed so many states’ deep vulnerabilities in recent months.

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India – a failed state ? by Ranjit Goswami

South Asia is in a sorrow state – much of its own making. India is in a sorrow state – as yesterday (8th October, 2009) Naxals killed 17 policemen in Maharashtra and in Kabul, another attempt to blast Indian embassy resulted in similar number of deaths.

What’s happening in India? What’s happening in South Asia? And why?

Not long ago, Indian media was gung ho on ‘India superpower’ topic. I was one of the few skeptics – not because I am less or more patriotic. It’s something similar to the views one Singapore-based Indian fund manager once said: whenever in his TV interviews he states Sensex may correct more than many other markets, he has been perceived as a non-patriotic.

The last two years may or may not have seen decoupling conclusively – however one decoupling that has happened conclusively is comparing India along with China in global forums and media. President Obama would be visiting Asia next month – India does not feature in the list of nations.

India, like China, deserves to be a superpower if counted by its population only. However sadly, in global stage, population numbers don’t count. And India still struggles to get a seat in the UNP5.

Question is: how much has India (and whole of South Asia) prospered relatively in (1) infrastructure, biggest of which is education; (2) regional collaboration, and (3) social justice over the last two or three decades? The world has been more concerned about Sub-Saharan Africa (and good to see they score better compared to South Asia in many parameters of HDI) whereas South Asia has further created problems of its own.

It was comforting to see Rahul Gandhi recognizing part of the Naxal-problem, true with some political color, when he attributed lack of governance and improvement of quality of life as the root cause. On the Naxalite menance, Home Minister Chidambarm is again right when he said that agitation and terrorism by Naxalites is hampering further progress of these backward regions. But that’s the obvious well-known problem, and not the solution. In-spite of that problem, we need to find a solution going beyond the chicken and egg story of vicious cycles of poverty to destructive agitations.

Externally too, India does not feature prominently in ASEAN or in discussions when many Asian nations talk about a common currency following the Euro.

The ‘easy and acceptable’ Indian view of above would be India faced tremendous challenge from inside out (diversity along with terrorism leave aside corruption) and outside in (unfriendly neighbors). The best example of the inside problem is the presence of elements like Raj Thackeray in Indian politics, whom media projected recently and who proudly showed his concern for Maharashtra by speaking in Marathi in national channels. Credits must be due to both Raj Thackeray and those channels!

The other view could be – can something else work because following the same path has not solved domestic problems, neither has Indian stature in AfPak, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or even with China has gone up in recent years. One can even include Iran and Myanmar in South Asia, and again indecisiveness of India has acted against Indian interest (or broader interest of humanity) there. The reason is primarily Indian indecisiveness.

Best example of that is found when no one globally notices India as a responsible nuclear power (unlike Pakistan or even China), however what they notice is India has not signed the NPT.

The best example of this indecisiveness is epitomized in many an external relationship. I often heard from Indian Diaspora in African continent that whenever due to a natural calamity, some country there is affected – India takes years to send food grains/relief materials (due to bureaucratic delays) whereas assistance from China reaches them in days. It helps in creating public opinion.

Columnists (or bloggers) live with critics and one such feedback (by one Andrew) to one of my earlier related columns in BNN read like: ‘This is why India has no friend in the world because India is always so selfish. If India become a superpower, it will be the most selfish country too.’

For deliberate reason, I avoided the next sentence that Andrew had in his feedback. However as one sees how India stands in regional and global forums, one can’t but avoid noticing that India doesn’t have much friends to count on in the world or even within South Asia (or broader Asia). And leave aside the blowing Indian mainstream media, in the grassroot levels, India may not have many friends of its domestic policies too if the Naxal problem is indeed as deep as it’s popularly projected (25% of Indian districts). Naxals may be one such dividing force, India actually has many more. And surprisingly, all these happen in the land of Mahatma Gandhi!

I could not help but write a painful spoof article on that sometime back (India warns Iraq with Cold War rhetoric). One can replace Iraq with AfPak today whereas India again remains the common contender.

It’s time probably India relooks at its South Asian policies – ensuring militants are never helped by neighboring countries trying to settle scores with India (or any other countries). A true spirit of partnership rather than outdoing each-other is what is needed in all of South Asia, including India. A stable Pakistan is in India’s interest and so is for Pakistan. A strong China can be for India’s interest and as the largest power in South Asia, respecting India’s rightful positions can be of China’s interest. And all these interests can benefit 20% or more global people who live in South Asia. Even it is time that the west (the US, EU) involves local powers (India and also China) in solving their problems in AfPak.

India should also ensure that domestic imbalances are taken care from its roots rather than parliamentarian speeches and faulty policy-implementations. That probably demands reviewing how the Constitution works in grass-root levels.

India and whole of South Asia indeed needs a lot of genuine help from rest of the world – for the betterment of South Asia and for the betterment of the world. The rest of the world should not find faults with South Asia – due to its inherent unique historical characteristics. They should rather try genuinely to resolve same.

Lastly – this article needs a disclaimer. ‘India – a failed state’ may raise a lot of eyebrows within India and unnecessary criticism by being ‘not in the same page’ (or for South Asia). One such example comes to mind when a recent UN discussion talked about comparing caste based differentiation with racism and applying same to India. Many in India viewed that would embarrass India. But the truth is something deeper (and as stated by Rahul Gandhi again when he said he doesn’t believe in caste) and may be in grass-root Indian culture. Can we ask the UN to help us resolve that problem rather than finding fault with our historical diversity or even denying the problem? Can we ask UN to help us in improving literacy rather than lecturing alone (and spare the public-private mode there)?

The objective of the article is to ensure India should never be anywhere close to a failed state and South Asia should never look like a failed region. But recent events are indeed disturbing. By taking the worst possible scenario, it’s time to re-think how India as the largest country in South Asia and as one deeply affected formalizes her internal policies and external relationships. India, due to her stature in South Asia, definitely owns a significant responsibility in bringing peace, stability and growth in the whole region. However lately we only see failures. And the blame games can’t continue.

The best thing one can learn from the media in the west is to critically self-evaluate oneself rather than glorifying oneself (what China so far does). Indian media would probably do more justice to India by critically (and not superficially) examining the effectiveness of India’s external and internal policies, if anything like that at all exists. And that goes for countries in other South Asian nations as well.

One can learn from failures, alternatively one can sink further in those failures. If Russia and the US can do business leaving aside cold war memories, if the US and the communist China can do business for mutual benefit; why can’t China, India (and if need be with Pakistan, Bangladesh and others) do business for mutual benefit?

It’s time to think outside the box for the problems that India and whole of South Asia faces. That genuine out of the box thinking must start from India, percolate to the other South Asian nations and finally to the rest of the world.

Ranjit can be followed at Twitter @ Ranjit Goswami (RanjiGoswami) on Twitter
 
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One can learn from failures, alternatively one can sink further in those failures. If Russia and the US can do business leaving aside cold war memories, if the US and the communist China can do business for mutual benefit; why can’t China, India (and if need be with Pakistan, Bangladesh and others) do business for mutual benefit?

It’s time to think outside the box for the problems that India and whole of South Asia faces. That genuine out of the box thinking must start from India, percolate to the other South Asian nations and finally to the rest of the world.

Couldn't agree more

certain western powers would like to see asaia split
 
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The ‘tornado’ awaiting India
October 27, 2009

Rahimullah Yousufzai

“I fear there will be a bloody revolution in India,” a retired Indian military officer remarked to this writer and other guests during a recent visit to New Delhi. It was shocking to hear the comment from a soldier, in a country that supposedly had given a voice to its huge population and was believed to be all-inclusive.

It is obvious that India’s much-praised democracy hasn’t brought any real change in the lives of millions of Indians. That some of the poorest men and women are now up in arms in parts of India is evidence enough that democratically elected governments must do more to provide rights and justice to the rural poor and ensure even-handed development in different parts of the country.

The Naxalite violence in India has caused pain to most thinking Indians. For them it is a matter of anguish that a growing number of Indians are disillusioned with their country’s democracy and see no hope of benefiting from India’s steady economic progress. They have picked up the gun to fight for their rights.

The Maoist-linked violence is spreading and engulfing new places. The vast region affected by the insurgency include the states of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Bihar and West Bengal and runs south through Orissa, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It is usually called the “Red Corridor” because the leadership for the rebels is provided by communist cadres labelled as Maoists. The Communist Party of India (Marxists-Leninists), despite suffering splits, is still the standard-bearer of the rebels.

According to reports in the Indian media, more than 220 districts in 20 or so states are now affected by Maoist-linked violence. Indian intelligence agencies believe the movement has at its disposal 20,000 armed cadres and over 50,000 regular members. Apart from the rural poor, indigenous tribes such as the Girijans in Andhra Pradesh and Santhals in West Bengal have been flocking to the Naxalite movement. The movement has appeal for the dispossessed and the under-privileged. In the words of its present leader, Mupalla Laxman Rao, in hiding somewhere in eastern India and better known as Ganapathi, his party’s influence has grown stronger and it was now the only genuine alternative before the people of India.

The Naxalite movement began as a peasants’ uprising in May 1969 in the village of Naxalbari in West Bengal. It was initially led by 49-year-old Charu Mazumdar and its aim was to seize power through an agrarian revolution by overthrowing the feudal order. Mazumdar died in police custody 12 days after his arrest in Calcutta in 1972 and became a hero to Maoist cadres that have increased in number and strength over the years despite splits in the movement. The Naxalite insurgency has sprouted after every defeat and is now stronger than ever.

India’s share of the world’s poorest people has increased to 39 percent from 25 percent in 1980. In comparison, the Below Poverty Line population worldwide has decreased from 1,470 million to 970 million. There are reportedly 301 million Indians below the poverty line, just 19 million less than in 1983. The Human Development Report by the UN has been ranking India among the lowest 60 or 65 countries in the list of 193 nations that are part of the annual study. India’s poor performance on this score was in spite of the around nine percent growth rate in its GDP. There are reports in the media about farmers committing suicide or selling their wives to pay mounting debts. Though the recorded figures of such cases aren’t high in a big country such as India with 1.17 billion people, it still indicates the desperate state of certain communities.

India’s poor and marginalised groups have on occasions showed their anger through the power of the ballot. This happened in the 2004 and also in the 2009 national elections. The Hindu nationalist BJP tried to seek votes by coining the slogan, India Shining, in the 2004 Lok Sabha elections as part of its claim that its coalition government had brought prosperity during its five-year rule. But the electorate thought otherwise as the majority, particularly the poor and rural voters, the lower castes and minorities hadn’t benefited from the progress that had mostly made the rich richer. Their verdict in the polls was against the BJP-led NDA alliance and in support of the Congress and its allies. The Congress won again in 2009 despite the incumbency factor because it was largely seen as the party that cared more for the rights of the poor and the rural voters and was conscious of the concerns of the minorities, particularly Muslims.

However, it is the ruling Congress now that is confronted with the challenge of responding to the needs of India’s restless rural poor and tribal communities. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recently described the Naxalite insurgency as the single greatest threat to India’s internal security. Rahul Gandhi, son of Congress head Sonia Gandhi and the rising star of Indian politics, has been focusing on the vast Indian hinterland, visiting the under-developed rural villages and spending nights at the homes of Dalits, often termed the poorest and most oppressed people in the country. This cannot be enough to calm down the Naxalites, who are convinced that only force could win the Indian people their rights.

A showdown between the Indian government and the Naxalites is now imminent. The Congress-led government is mobilising hundreds of thousands of security personnel, mostly police and paramilitary forces, to launch an offensive against the Maoists mostly likely in November. It has ruled out the use of the military, but the operation will be coordinated from New Delhi as part of a central government initiative. Indian analysts and foreigners knowledgeable about India have pointed out that the country lacked a cohesive strategy to deal with the insurgency. The ruling elites have also been criticised for being slow in responding to the needs of the poorest communities, who were then easily recruited by the Maoists.

Such is the hatred of the Naxalites for the ruling elite that their leader Ganapathi, a former schoolteacher, branded Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Home Minister P Chidambaran as “terrorists.” In a recent interview at his secret jungle hideout with the weekly magazine Open, he said “the people will rise up like a tornado under our party’s leadership to wipe out the reactionary blood-sucking vampires ruling our country.” At another point, the 59-year old Ganapathi declared: “Those (government) sharks want to loot the wealth and drive the tribal people of the region to further impoverishment.”

By threatening to unleash a “tornado” of violence if the Indian government went ahead with its planned large-scale offensive against his insurgent forces, Ganapathi has made the intentions of the Maoists obvious. Already, his men, and even some women cadres, have carried out actions that are now normally associated with the Taliban. They have kidnapped and beheaded government officials, blown up electricity and telephone towers, destroyed roads and railway tracks, killed political opponents and attacked police stations and other official installations. The offensive against the Naxalites will certainly weaken and deprive them of some of their bases and hideouts, but the issue cannot be resolved by the use of force alone. Many members of the Indian intelligentsia sympathise with the cause of the Maoists and objective analysts see it as an economic issue and one concerning lack of justice. The Indian ruling elite needs to tackle the root-cause of the insurgency instead of applying force through the state apparatus to crush the rebels.

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Thats a legitimate concern. The UN should pass a resolution to have a quarterly inspection of Pak nuclear facilities by IAEA inspectors to start with and then slowly start to denuclearize Pakistan so that they can start focusing on doing some hard work and earning their own money with their own sweat - what a great day that will be!

You are talking rubbish dont you know that Pakistans nukes are india centric. It has nothing to do with isreal or the UN. There is more danger from the indian nukes as it wants to use them to become a Great Power or Super Power which is wet dream. Stop people sleeping on the streets of your cities then perhaps your wet dreams will become reality.:pakistan::rofl:
 
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Yes india has been ruled by many invaders and the indians have taken them all lying down.
 
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First of all, Pakis never ruled India and never will. You Pakis are always think of defeating India in one or other way whereas India aims to win , and not to defeat Pakistan.

Dont forget what happened to you guys in battle of Longewala... so please dont talk about heart to fight.

Insha allah, you will always remain boot lickers.

do you want your beans roasted?:rofl:

Classic example of a wolf in a sheeps clothing, our little indian friend is trying pass as an a kashmiri and saying Insha Allah.

Heart to fight, well our brave army has proved that wrong, many indians soldiers left their weapons and armour and ran. Read it on bbc and other archives.

India Is Obsessed in destabilisng pakistan, not the other way round, pakistan and pakistanis just want a quite peaceful life.
 
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israel is alive today because of all muslims if we got together israel will be on run it is all our mistakes in which small state like israel dectating the terms of world
 
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israel is alive today because of all muslims if we got together israel will be on run it is all our mistakes in which small state like israel dectating the terms of world

yeh dude - but israel is not your dinner steak !

israel have human living there - and if you talk about killing innocent people-

thinkabout this - it will take just one day to finish whole of middle east and south east asia. - I.E muslim states.

and there will be peace forever ??????? israel - europe , anerica , pecific , asia , africa will leave in peace.!!!!!:cheers:
 
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Taliban will take over a facility here where our nuclear weapons are stored,they will find their a box on which NUCLEAR BOMB will be written with a big RED button of detonation and then they will take it away. :angry::eek:
 
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yeh dude - but israel is not your dinner steak !

israel have human living there - and if you talk about killing innocent people-

thinkabout this - it will take just one day to finish whole of middle east and south east asia. - I.E muslim states.

and there will be peace forever ??????? israel - europe , anerica , pecific , asia , africa will leave in peace.!!!!!:cheers:

Agreed.....
 
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Taliban will take over a facility here where our nuclear weapons are stored,they will find their a box on which NUCLEAR BOMB will be written with a big RED button of detonation and then they will take it away. :angry::eek:

If they could read NUCLEAR BOMB that is :coffee:

The level of absurdity in posts by the indians make me :lol:

If the indians are so worried about our nukes; maybe we can pop a few on their poor population; will do good to both of us:

1 - Will reduce the number of Nuclear warheads controlled by Pakistan
2 - Will reduce the poor population of India by two-thirds; hence decreasing the burden on the state.

Win win situation no? :cheers:
 
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THE taliban has a better intelligance community than America does. the CIA cant confirm the exact locations of pakistans nukes but the taliban can. Says alot. India wants pak to denuclearise why? because its in your favour. If the mullahs control our nukes then the hindu monks control yours. The world knows Hindu nationalists pull your nuclear strings. Pakistan at will is expanding its arsenal and long it continue. India doesnt sleep at night infact america doesnt either knowing theres a muslim country with nukes. I mean Indias got another nuclear neighbour in China. I dare it to call for China to denuclearise. One thing India can never say its nukes are pakistan specific coz the Chinese hate you to whereas atm Pakistans arsenal is pointing at you. Isreal is the b**** that needs to keep quite. When is the Atomic agency inspecting India again?
 
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