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india has publically declined a Russian offer to equip its new aircraft carrier with the Kashtan close-in weapon system, preferring systems from either Israel or France, the Strategy Page website reports.

The aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya, was refurbished by Russia from an old Russian carrier, while the Kashtan system, which has been in service since 1989, uses two six-barrel 30mm auto cannon to destroy nearby anti-ship missiles.

But India has made no secret of its dissatisfaction with the delays and cost overruns associated with the carrier, as well as Russia's support of the many Russian weapons systems already purchased.

India already uses Israel's Barak 1 missile system for anti-ship missile defense and is considering the much more capable Barak 8. Indian sources say that the Israeli systems are more expensive than their Russian counterparts but have proven more effective and reliable. Israeli tech support is also far superior to what the Russians offer.
 
India needs to aggressively invest in technology sharing and transfer with Israel.

The Indians have the good, the Israel have the talent, and the Indians can buy that talent to develop their technological industries.
 
Yep but wont they face problems incorporating two different tech in one platform?
 
India needs to aggressively invest in technology sharing and transfer with Israel.

The Indians have the good, the Israel have the talent, and the Indians can buy that talent to develop their technological industries.

The Barak 8 is a joint venture. The propulsion amongst other systems is entirely Indian.
 
The Jews are not interested in handing over technology to India.
 
LOLz.

The Israelis have openly admitted that they're passing good tech in defense. :lol:


Indians are complaining at lack of technology transfer for projects such as Barak 8.

Jews are not stupid to hand over secrets that took them decades to develop.

India needs to learn that cutting-edge technology is never for sale.
 
Barak 8 is one project out of many both countries worked on.

Indians are complaining at lack of technology transfer for projects such as Barak 8.

Jews are not stupid to hand over secrets that took them decades to develop.

India needs to learn that cutting-edge technology is never for sale.

No body said the Israelis are stupid or Indians are starving for technology. Customers are kings. India is a big dollar, they can buy everything they want.
 
Barak 8 is one project out of many both countries worked on.



No body said the Israelis are stupid or Indians are starving for technology. Customers are kings. India is a big dollar, they can buy everything they want.

It's universally shared knowledge that no country shares its most cutting edge technology. The Bangladeshi guy hasn't said anything new.
 
No body said the Israelis are stupid or Indians are starving for technology. Customers are kings. India is a big dollar, they can buy everything they want.

India went into the projects thinking that the Jews would hand over their latest technology.

Now they are complaining that this is not the case.

Indians were incredibly naive and have learnt that technology in nearly all cases must be developed by yourself.
 
It's universally shared knowledge that no country shares its most cutting edge technology. The Bangladeshi guy hasn't said anything new.

It depends on the degree of the " cutting edge " technology we're talking about.

Otherwise the US wouldn't have agreed to sell the F-35s to its allies and so on.

Dude,

The Indians realize that they won't be getting what the Israelis have got in their stoke but at least something that's relatively advanced and all.
India went into the projects thinking that the Jews would hand over their latest technology.

Now they are complaining that this is not the case.

Indians were incredibly naive and have learnt that technology in nearly all cases must be developed by yourself.

Come on! They paid almost $1.5 billions for the Barak 8 projects. For them, it is like nothing.
 
Israel requires US consent to supply any hardware. Relying on Israeli hardware is definitely a no no.
 
india has publically declined a Russian offer to equip its new aircraft carrier with the Kashtan close-in weapon system, preferring systems from either Israel or France, the Strategy Page website reports.

The aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya, was refurbished by Russia from an old Russian carrier, while the Kashtan system, which has been in service since 1989, uses two six-barrel 30mm auto cannon to destroy nearby anti-ship missiles.

But India has made no secret of its dissatisfaction with the delays and cost overruns associated with the carrier, as well as Russia's support of the many Russian weapons systems already purchased.

India already uses Israel's Barak 1 missile system for anti-ship missile defense and is considering the much more capable Barak 8. Indian sources say that the Israeli systems are more expensive than their Russian counterparts but have proven more effective and reliable. Israeli tech support is also far superior to what the Russians offer.

Kashtan was rejected earlier even for some frigates. According to an analyst, it's not suitable for the
conditions in Indian Ocean region. So it's only natural the Kashtan was rejected here too.
 

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