Israeli Airstrikes on Syrian T-4 Airbase martyr 5 Iranians

[AmirPatriot]

These people are true idiots. Instead of building up and live in total peace and wealth they choose to die in a jet air strike. What is the IQ of these people?

The true idiot is the one who insults martyrs.

Why Iran's Options In Syria Are Limited

I've talked before about why Iran's conventional military weakness means it lacks escalation dominance. This means Iran cannot escalate a conflict to its advantage, because the situation would spiral out of its control.


Shahid Mahdi Lotfi

Now we are seeing this limitation in action.

Click the link below for the full blog post.

https://irangeomil.blogspot.com/2018/04/why-irans-options-in-syria-are-limited.html

@Gomig-21 I saw you talking to zartosht about this in another thread in the ME section started by that vile "Arabi". I don't want to comment in that thread but here is my take on the issue if you want to read it.

 

[zartosht]

The true idiot is the one who insults martyrs.

these soldiers who put their lives on the line to advance Iranian security and interests are "idiots" apparently.

this American-"Iranian" forgot how americans worshipped their countries fallen casualties. even though they died fighting a completely dumb war (a near American consensus at this point).

would any American called the fallen soldiers "idiots". and they had far less to be fighting for in Iraq..

 

[N_Al40]

How will Iran protect Syrian jets exactly..?

https://twitter.com/x/status/984932487053881344

Expect big news soon...

https://twitter.com/x/status/984932235928309760

 

[AmirPatriot]

How will Iran protect Syrian jets exactly..?

https://twitter.com/x/status/984932487053881344

She means sending Syrian jets to hide in Iraqi airbases while they wait for everything to blow over.

 

[N_Al40]

She means sending Syrian jets to hide in Iraqi airbases while they wait for everything to blow over.

Ahh right cool, wasn't communicated properly on her part.

That's why commas are important LOOL

 

[Stryker1982]

these soldiers who put their lives on the line to advance Iranian security and interests are "idiots" apparently.

this American-"Iranian" forgot how americans worshipped their countries fallen casualties. even though they died fighting a completely dumb war (a near American consensus at this point).

would any American called the fallen soldiers "idiots". and they had far less to be fighting for in Iraq..

He's a pretender Iranian.

 

[Kastor]

The U.S. strike on Syria is imminent, apparently, the debate is surrounding how big of a response. Of course, the Zionists investment in Bolton and Pompeo is going to pay off. Whatever the response, the game WILL NOT CHANGE on the ground. On other news, it's been reported that Britan maybe behind the false flag ops using the ole U.N. White Helmet fakers. Of course, it doesn't matter because the UN Security Council (minus Russia and China) is in the pocket of the U.S. anyway. I want you all to notice one thing, the 2 nations that will benefit the most (S.A. and Israel) did not lift a finger and have kept quiet. Dig in this is about to get interesting.......

https://twitter.com/x/status/984409897310801920

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/13...idence-chemical-attack-syria-staged-lets-see/

 

[skyshadow]

Democracy Dies in Darkness
National Security

U.S. launches missile strikes in Syria
By Anne Gearan, Missy Ryan

April 13, 2018 at 9:12 PM

President Trump announced on April 13 that the U.S. conducted a military strike against the Syrian government in response to suspected chemical attack in a Damascus suburb. (The Washington Post)
President Trump ordered a military attack against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Friday, joining allies Britain and France in launching missile strikes in retaliation for what Western nations said was the deliberate gassing of Syrian civilians.

The coordinated strike marked the second time in a year that Trump has used force against Assad, who U.S. officials believe has continued to test the West’s willingness to accept gruesome chemical attacks.

Trump announced the strikes in an address to the nation Friday evening. “The purpose of our action tonight is to establish a strong deterrent” against the production and use of chemical weapons, he said, describing the issue as vital to national security. Trump added that the United States is prepared “to sustain this response” until its aims are met.

Trump asked both Russia and Iran, backers of Assad, “what kind of nation wants to be associated” with mass murder and suggested that someday the United States might be able to “get along” with both if they change their policies.


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The assault followed repeated threats of military action from Trump, who has been moved by civilian suffering to set aside his concerns about foreign military conflicts, since the reported chemical attack that killed civilians in a rebel-held town outside Damascus last weekend.

Even after international inspections and a U.S. air strike in 2017, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is being accused of using chemical weapons to attack civilians in Douma, Syria, on April 7. (Jason Aldag/The Washington Post)
The operation capped nearly a week of debate in which Pentagon leaders voiced concerns that an attack could pull the United States into Syria’s civil war and trigger a dangerous conflict with Assad ally Russia — without necessarily halting chemical attacks.

Both Syria and Russia have denied involvement in the attack, which Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov alleged had been staged.

The episode is the latest illustration of the hazards arising from a conflict that has killed an estimated half-million people and drawn in world powers since it began as a peaceful uprising in 2011.

The attack raised the possibility of retaliation by Russia or Iran, which also provides military support to Assad, threatening in particular to increase the risks facing a force of 2,000 Americans in Syria, as part of the battle against the Islamic State. While the United States has not been at war with the Syrian government, U.S. troops often operate in proximity to Iranian- or Russian-backed groups.


In the wake of last weekend’s gruesome attack, some U.S. officials advocated a larger, and therefore riskier, strike than the limited action Trump ordered in April 2017, also in response to suspected chemical weapons use.

That attack involved 59 Tomahawk missiles fired from two U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea. It fulfilled Trump’s vow that chemical weapons are a “red line” that he, unlike his predecessor Barack Obama, would not allow Assad to cross. But the airfield targeted by the Pentagon resumed operations shortly after the attack and, according to Western intelligence assessments, chemical attacks resumed.

Assad’s defiance has presented Trump with a choice of whether to make a larger statement and incur a larger risk this time. Planning for these strikes focused on ways to curb Assad’s ability to use such weapons again.

President Trump enters to speak in the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House on Friday in Washington, about the United States’ military response to a chemical weapons attack in Syria on April 7, 2018. (Susan Walsh/AP)
Risks of a wider attack include the possibility of a dangerous escalation with Russia, whose decision to send its military to Syria in 2015 reversed the course of the war in Assad’s favor. Since then, Russia has used Syria as a testing ground for some of its most sophisticated weaponry.

“Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ ” Trump tweeted Wednesday, referring to U.S. missiles.

That took military officials by surprise. But on Thursday, Trump said he did not mean to suggest missile strikes were imminent.

“Never said when an attack on Syria would take place,” he tweeted. “Could be very soon or not so soon at all!”

A larger strike, possibly including stealth aircraft and strikes on multiple sites, could inflict lasting damage on military facilities and economic infrastructure that have been vital to Assad’s ability to gain the upper hand in a seven-year civil war.


Since last year’s strike, multiple chemical attacks have been reported in opposition areas, most of them involving chlorine rather than the nerve agent sarin, as was used in 2017, suggesting the government may have adjusted its tactics.

Among the chief factors that military planners must consider are air defenses in Syria, which were bolstered by Russia’s decision to enter the war and could pose a threat should the Pentagon employ manned aircraft in the attack. Their reach was demonstrated in February when an Israeli F-16 fighter jet crashed amid Syrian antiaircraft fire.

The United States has flown an array of aircraft over Syria since it began strikes against the Islamic State in 2014, but those operations have mostly steered clear of government and Russian activities. The Assad regime has not authorized the U.S. operations, but it also has not tried to shoot down American aircraft.

Earlier Friday, Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, accused Russia of lying and covering up for the Assad government. Assad’s government had used chemical weapons at least 50 times in the past seven years of warfare, Haley claimed.

“Russia can complain all it wants about fake news, but no one is buying its lies and its coverups,” she said. “Russia was supposed to guarantee Assad would not use chemical weapons, and Russia did the opposite.”

Russia had called for the emergency meeting on Syria as military action seemed likely.

Russia’s U.N. ambassador, Vassily Nebenzia, accused the United States, France and Britain of saber-rattling.


“Why are you seeking to plunge the Middle East into such difficulties, provoking one conflict after another, pitting one state against another?” he said, claiming that anti-government militias had received “instructions” to begin an offensive as soon as an act of force begins. “Is the latest wave of chaos being unleashed only for the sake of that?”

Russia is Assad’s most powerful ally and has thousands of troops and military advisers, as well as air-defense systems, deployed in Syria.

Russia’s military has threatened to shoot down any U.S. missiles that put Russian lives at risk. Russia could also fire at the launch platforms used — potentially U.S. planes or ships. Russian officials have said U.S. and Russian military staffs remain in contact regarding Syria, even as Russian media have carried stories in recent days about the potential outbreak of “World War III” as a consequence of a U.S. airstrike against Assad.

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned French President Emmanuel Macron in a phone call Friday the situation remained tense, the Kremlin said in a statement.

“Most important, it is imperative to avoid badly planned and dangerous actions that would be crude violations of the U.N. Charter and would have unpredictable consequences,” the Kremlin said. “Both leaders directed the ministers of defense and foreign affairs to maintain close contact with the goal of de-escalating the situation.”

U.N. Secretary General António Guterres told the Security Council that he feared events could escalate rapidly into a regional and even global conflict, and urged all states “to act responsibly in these dangerous circumstances.”

France’s U.N. ambassador, Francois Delattre, said the Syrian government’s decision to use chemical weapons meant that it had “reached a point of no return,” necessitating a “robust, united and steadfast response.”

“France will shoulder its responsibility to end an intolerable threat to our collective security,” Delattre told the Security Council.

British U.N. Ambassador Karen Pierce noted that Prime Minister Theresa May’s Cabinet “has agreed on the need to take action to alleviate humanitarian distress and to deter the further use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime.”

Announcement of that approval Thursday did not specify that the response should be military, although that was the expectation.

“We will continue to work with our friends and allies to coordinate an international response to that end,” Pierce said Friday.

Opposition lawmakers urged May to first seek Parliament’s consent before committing to any military action. Nothing requires that May do so, but the convention is for British lawmakers to be given the chance to vote. Parliament is in recess but could be recalled for an emergency session.

Meanwhile, a team of investigators from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons arrived in Syria to look for evidence.

 

[WordsMatter]

You are bringing nukes to every thread .... Look like finally you unwillingly start to admit Israel weakness against Iran ....

About nukes , well , I always repeating myself :" Iran should have nukes "

I am sorry, but nukes are the weapons of last resort - MAD weapons. Why else would a country have nukes? It's to of course assure it's survival. So if IRI is hell bent on destroying Israel why wouldn't Israel use those weapons when, as delusionist declare, the time comes? Of course they would, and justifiably so. It's a choice between survival or death of millions of Jews. Isn't that why IRI is pursuing nukes as well? To assure IRI's survival?
What people are saying on this thread does not make sense: IRI will destroy Israel, through conventional means?! How exactly? Through her naval armada? Her Air force? Or is it through her UAVs?

 

[OldTwilight]

I am sorry, but nukes are the weapons of last resort - MAD weapons. Why else would a country have nukes? It's to of course assure it's survival. So if IRI is hell bent on destroying Israel why wouldn't Israel use those weapons when, as delusionist declare, the time comes? Of course they would, and justifiably so. It's a choice between survival or death of millions of Jews. Isn't that why IRI is pursuing nukes as well? To assure IRI's survival?
What people are saying on this thread does not make sense: IRI will destroy Israel, through conventional means?! How exactly? Through her naval armada? Her Air force? Or is it through her UAVs?

make living hard for them to surrender or leave !? it has to be long process but IR really doesn't care about Israel ...

 

[Gomig-21]

@Gomig-21 I saw you talking to zartosht about this in another thread in the ME section started by that vile "Arabi". I don't want to comment in that thread but here is my take on the issue if you want to read it.

Thanks for the tag and nice read. I like your honestly and you basically said the exact thing I was telling @zartosht in that other thread. Bringing in Hawks and nothing newer because of Israeli ELINT dangers etc. makes all the sense. Tough part is admitting that there isn't much retaliation that can be done. It's a heavy price to pay but you should negotiate that price, right down to a 0.

 

[Oldman1]

the goal to install massive air defense network and monitor Israel air space 24/7 and then monitor Israel activity with drones ...
then if we really decide its time to kick this spoiled illegitimate child of the west , we will do it hardly and those **** can't even operate their fighters ....

we just want to neutralized their air force to limit their response and then barrage them with rockets from Syria , Lebanon , Gazza and or Iran ....

that why Israel is so desperate to turn Syria to world war because they knew that they are doomed .... we just need to be more patient and in time hit them hard , very very very hard ....

In other words, you just gave them an excuse why Israel was dealing with Iranian drones as well as targeting directly the Iranian forces that control those drones.

If Syria only had a minor insurgent problem (think ISIS in Sinai) and Israel attacked a UAV base, I think Iran could respond with much less risk. Israel might retaliate to that first response, but the message would be heard - back off.

But like I said, because of Syria's vulnerability, I think they would escalate and the situation would quickly get out of control.

Indeed, the Israelis targeted that base because of the Iranian drone activity and the ambush that led to the downing of the F-16. It was way too obvious. Iran should have just used Hezbollah for some other activities to strike Israel. But guess ambushing an F-16 would be a big morale boost since Israel was bombing Syria.

 

[Rukarl]

I'm sorry but the only idiot here is you my friend. you are repeating cheap propaganda points of western and Zionist circles.

about irans economy please read my post a little earlier in the page to get your answer.

on irans military involvement. it is actually one of the best invesments the Iranian government has made. are you seriously ignorant of the world, middle east, geopolitics and the way irans enemies are trying to hurt and destabalize iran at every chance they get?

do you think if iran just let wahabi and Zionist rats take over Iraq and Syria. that would be the end of it? we would all be living in peace and singing kumbaya? NO. they would bring the war right up to your border. we would be fighting these rats in Kermanshah. you think getting destabalized, and fighting terrorists around your own territory Is a recipe for success?

with a minimal investment, iran has pushed these sub-ham rats far from its border. and not only eliminated a security threat, but created allies everywhere that would return the favor and help iran incase Iranian security was threatened.

and in case you didn't notice, iran is facing an onslaught from the entire western,zionist and wahabi worlds. and despite this, we have one of most secure, and stable countries in the region. even turkey who has no enemies besides the ones it makes for itself (like Syria) has much bigger border security issues compared to iran.

this peace and security is thanks to this investment. An investment that has cost relatively few Iranian lives, and EXTREMELY effective in terms of bang for buck when you consider the amounts Iranian enemies are spending and failing with.

Bla bla wahabi,zionist, enemy bla bla

Meanwhile the corrupt mullahs and their families enrich themselves while the average Iranian needs to sell their kidneys to pay for their daily needs.

 

[skyshadow]

 

[Stryker1982]

Unconfirmed: More Isreali Attacks in Syria!

https://twitter.com/x/status/985999964898824192

https://twitter.com/x/status/986003292575510528

https://twitter.com/x/status/986000385323216898

https://twitter.com/x/status/986004525805957121