So I need to explain things which are clear even to little kids that rockets are not firing themselves?
Already addressed.
Thats total nonsense. During Shah factories and infrastructures were built at crazy rate. The major problem of Shah was that he bought equipment too fast and could not enter in service in time. The largest steel factory of Iran for example was founded by Shah and started working at normal scale only in 1990-es.
I have demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt how Iran developed at a much faster pace after 1979, and how Iranian nowadays are enjoying way superior living standards than they did back then. Gratuitous, unsubstantiated claims have no value whatsoever against the documented facts, figures and academic studies I provided.
As for the steel factory, my point stands: westerners refused to sell the shah any such production plant. So he was forced to go and pay his enemies, the Soviets, to obtain the plant. Also, that plant's capacity never was anywhere close to current levels. The expansion was done after the Revolution, and many more steel factories were added.
You forget about inflation. Today dollar is 3.7 times less than 1979 dollar.
I have shown a source which proves Iranians consume more than they did prior to the Islamic Revolution.
There is zero connection between MKO and Israel. MKO are just a branch of Khomeinism.
1) The MKO never adhered to Khomeinism.
2) My previous posts highlight the multiple connections between the Isra"el"i regime and that terrorist group for everyone to see.
So you confirm my point. When people revolt against Ben Ali, Mubarak and Ghaddafi - thats good. When people revolt against much much more sadistic and corrupt Assad - that's Zionist American regime change plot and everyone who supports it must be barrel bombed and tortured together with families.
When people revolt against western puppet regimes, yes it's a good thing in principle. When the west engineers an armed uprising against an anti-zionist government, then no, I will not salute it, and neither would Iran.
No contradiction here, no hypocrisy. One and the same guiding principle (opposition to zionism and US imperialism) in every case.
No wonder Khomenism is most hypocrite ideology in human history.
Hollow rhetoric, debunked already.
These are numbers of Lebanese + Hezbollah themselves. HRW just blindly accepted these numbers without any checking.
Nonsense, these groups have no preference for the Resistance. If anything, they are instruments at the hands of international zionism (like Soros-funded HRW).
Case in point, on page 23, the HRW reports states:
III. Methodology
This report is based primarily on investigations by Human Rights Watch researchers who were in Lebanon from the onset of the conflict and who carried out investigations throughout the conflict (July 12-August 14, 2006) as well as in the months after the conflict (August-December 2006).
They conducted their own investigations and did not simply cite numbers proposed by third parties.
Hezbalshaitan is storing their rockets in civilian homes. Dahya is Hezbalshaitan state within a state. Israel warned before taking out Hezbalshaitan infrastructures there.
The zionist regime's own military doctrine calls for disproportionate use of force, i.e. for committing war crimes. No government in the world (save the zionist vassal regime of Washington, which legalized torture under Bush jr.) is as shameless as the zionist regime, which has no issue openly boasting about its own massive criminal activities.
Stop inventing nonsense. Here the goals which were set:
- The return of the hostages, Ehud (Udi) Goldwasser and Eldad Regev;
- A complete cease fire;
- Deployment of the Lebanese army in all of Southern Lebanon;
- Expulsion of Hizballah from the area, and fulfillment of United Nations Resolution 1559.
All were achieved, except the hostages which were killed in the attack itself.
Alright, let's see who is making stuff up.
https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-2006-lebanon-war-a-short-history
The second plan under consideration was a 48-72 hour bombing campaign, codenamed Operation Ice Breaker. This plan was more in line with the Israeli General Staff’s preferences. General Halutz, however, wanted to expand the scale and intensity of the original version of the campaign. He envisioned an aerial blitz that would attempt to destroy Hizbullah’s entire military apparatus. General Halutz also believed that the size and scope of the campaign could convince the Lebanese people to turn on Hizbullah and disarm it.[14] Israel, General Halutz warned, would “turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years” in order to remove the Hizbullah threat. The IDF General Staff was so confident in the expanded version Operation Ice Breaker that they promised U.S. officials a decisive Israeli victory within 35 days.[15]
Or this source, the major American think tank known as Council on Foreign Relations:
As the fighting between Israel and Lebanon escalates into its third week, each side has its own definition of victory and its own plan for emerging from the crisis. Some experts say Hezbollah already…
www.cfr.org
Israel seeks to stop Hezbollah’s daily launching of rockets at its territory, establish a buffer zone in southern Lebanon patrolled by an international force, and prevent Hezbollah from re-arming after the crisis. "Israel has to deal a knockout blow to Hezbollah’s capabilities, but Hezbollah just has to not lose," says CFR Fellow Steven A. Cook.
How would Israel define victory?
"Israelis don’t speak in terms of victory," says Michael Herzog, a brigadier general in the Israeli army and a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "They speak in terms of the objectives they want to accomplish: to seriously degrade Hezbollah’s military capabilities as much as possible. This is to weaken the group, and also to reestablish deterrence, so that even if Hezbollah has rockets, they will be much more cautious about using them." Israel will also try to create a buffer zone in southern Lebanon, patrolled by a combination of international forces and Lebanese troops, to prevent Hezbollah from using the area to launch rockets or raids on Israel.
These goals have shifted from the start of the conflict, experts say. Then, Israeli officials spoke of eliminating the Hezbollah threat. "I think people realize Hezbollah will not voluntarily disarm, and there’s no force on the ground that will force them to disarm," Herzog says. "But even if we can’t disarm them, we can prevent them from re-arming to the same level."
Clearly, objectives were defined which Tel Aviv failed to reach.
Actually Israel said that Iran is bigger danger than Iraq, but US did not listen, so Israel just started supporting US line.
Nope, Netanyahu and the Isra"el" lobby pushed the US to invade Iraq. Opposition to the Iraq war was considerable including within the US system, and furthermore, the so-called "US line" was nothing but a policy defined and implemented by militant zionists and Isra"el"-firsters inside the Bush jr. administration.
A brief look at who the so-called neocon cabal (architect of Iraq's destruction) consists of, will instantly reveal their staunch zionist and pro-Isra"el" allegiance.
A fact nicely described in the following publication:
We see this "brotherhood" in Syria: genocide of 13 million Sunnis.
1) No "genocide" ever committed by Iran, nor by the Syrian government. They are not like the zionist regime, which is built on "ethnic cleansing" and whose official military doctrine prescribes striking civilian targets.
2) Iran's brotherhood with Sunni Muslims was witnessed during the zioniost wars on Gaza, during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, during the civil war in Bosnia, during the ISIS onslaught in Iraq, among multiple other instances. No amount of repeating a falsehood will change these facts.
More over. Iran started converting Sunnis to Khomeini sect for money long before the war:
OMAR ABU LAYLA*The author is a Syrian expert who focuses on security and governance dynamics in northeast Syria. CEO @DeirEzzor24, which has a group of researchers inside the country.Iran plays a key role in Syria. Teheran was the crucial regional actor which elected to rescue its key ally...
www.mideastcenter.org
Thats another reason why Khomenism is most hypocrite ideology in human history.
This user here seems to miss the fact that conversions "for money" are totally useless in political terms (at least in the discussed context).
Secondly, as concerns the Deir ez-Zor area: the main Arab tribe residing there, although of Sunni belief, always had a special connection to Shia Islam. Indeed, they consider themselves descendants of the Shia Imam Bagher (a.s.). Hence, ties were established, discussions took place, and some of their members decided to become fully fledged Shia Muslims.
Considering the extremely limited number of these brothers when compared to the many Sunni Muslims Iran directly assisted in one way or another without ever asking them to join Shia Islam, the quoted user's diatribe instantly falls flat.
Then why all these Basra attacks? Just for fun?
Newsflash: there was war between Iran and Iraq. Moving troops onto enemy soil can be used to negotiate favorable ceasefire terms before vacating those territories. It can be done in order to topple the enemy regime. It does not necessarily imply that annexation is the goal. Especially when no statement to that effect is ever made, as in Iran's case.
Of course they did:
Sieges imposed by the Government in the Governorate
s of Homs, Rural Damascus and
Damascus have been ongoing since 2012 and intensifi
ed in the spring of 2013. Information
gathered by OHCHR demonstrates that maintaining a s
iege requires a high degree of control
over entry and exit points to the area in question,
and is primarily enforced by installing
checkpoints. A pattern appears to have emerged wher
e sieges were initially partially imposed,
with civilians and goods allowed through checkpoint
s. As the conflict escalated, Government
forces
began to prevent all entry of goods, and pro
ceeded to shell and, in some instances,
carry out aerial bombardment of the area.
Funny how when it comes to the disinformation about the Syrian government having supposedly committed "genocide", the user will dismiss the UN - which completely rejects such a notion. But when it comes to this here, he will suddenly copy-paste a report from a UN agency. Pure double-standards.
Either way, the quoted report doesn't mention Iran at all. No evidence that Iran directed the involved actors to enact this purported siege.
You guys want to fight Israel till last Palestinian.
Palestinians themselves seek to resist zionist occupation. They started long before the 1979 Islamic Revolution of Iran and have never stopped since their brethren were forcefully expelled from their lands by zionist occupiers in 1948.
What Iran does, is to extend massive assistance to the oppressed Palestinian people in this legitimate struggle of theirs.
Your goal is to provoke wars.
This actually describes zionist policy in the most accurate way.
As for Iran, no war was started by Iran in more than a hundred years. No war was provoked by Iran either.
But you afraid to fight urself.
No government in the world other than Islamic Iran dares to support the Palestinian Resistance militarily. An undisputable mark of Islamic Iran's extreme braveness and courage.
Another reason why khomenism is most hypocrite ideology in human history.
Empty rhetoric that was successfully debunked above and in my previous replies.
Actually propaganda stories invented about Deir Yassin were major reason why Palestinians panicked and fled:
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Yes of course, "propaganda stories invented" by Isra"el"i historians themselves.
This right here is denial of "ethnic cleansing". In addition to being quite an insult to the intelligence of readers (claiming that hundreds of thousands can be made to flee their lands simply because they heard some supposedly unfounded rumors - a claim for which there is no example in history), it represent the height of contempt towards the victims of the Nakba.
He who denies ethnic cleansing committed by a regime he supports, will have no qualms to falsely accuse others of "genocide". Take note, everyone.
But now Palestinians know that all these stories and propaganda for foreigners and dont flee.
Palestinians know full well what took place in 1948: forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of their countrymen and relatives at the hands of war criminal zionist forces.
Thats why when Israel had almost no firepower in 1948 Arabs fled in masses and now when Israel has million times more firepower they dont flee.
No. What's happening is that Isra"el" already expelled enough Palestinians in 1948 to install its illegitimate occupation regime. That's why nowadays Tel Aviv doesn't need to resort to the same types of measures against the remaining Palestinians, having already attained the goal which the 1948 mass expulsions were designed for.
If you are systematically indiscriminately bombing one ethnic group for 9 years that is 100% genocide.
I already proved that there was no "systematic bombing" of a religious group (let alone an "ethnic" one).
About 80% of Syrian Sunnis (13 million) were murdered and expelled from their homes.
Nope, they weren't "expelled" from their homes, but fled war. Semantic slips like these are no longer functional.
Also, the Syrian population being 70% Sunni Muslim, this will naturally tend to reflect itself in the confessional composition of war refugees. Nothing out of the ordinary.
No location was ever targeted by Syrian forces due to the religious background of its inhabitants. The only criterion was whether or not that location was a site of insurgent activity.
They can't return despite Assad captured most of territories. Those few who remained in Assad lands live in terrible powerty constantly harassed, constantly people get murdered and disappear. Except several hundreds of thousands Shabiha collaborators.
Poverty is a consequence of war, not a goal of government policy. As for the other claims, they represent propagandistic drivel. Millions of Sunni Muslims are living without concerns in the government-controlled areas of Syria, and that means no Sunni Muslim was targeted for his religious affiliation alone.
If someone is suspected of collaborating with groups which took up arms against the state, then that person might face consequences no matter their religious or ethnic backgrounds. The Syrian government doesn't care about people's religious or ethnic backgrounds, it acts against armed opponents and their supporters, period.
Its just a coincidence than Sunni towns were barrel bombed, starved and gassed for 9 years.
Locations where insurgent activity was taking place came under fire. No more and no less.
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what about the ones from Tehran to north west , what about the one in west of Iran
Doesn't invalidate my point.
