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Israel gears up for possible unilateral strike on Iran

First of all you dont know history.
Secondly Syria has stronger military than Iran.
Yeah sure
by the way the must important factor is software not hardware .do you believe if we were at war and you have attacked us just like you attacked Syria we would have tolerated it ?
 
Their equipment up to date? Even if so, they're not able to withstand an Israeli attack, especially considering geographical disadvantage unless they resort to guerrilla warfare. Syria's air defence is really no use against modern air forces that have technology to conduct precise strikes from the sea.

Iran's power is over rated in the world media to justify an attack against them, however Iran has been under sanctions for a while and can't acquire such weapons. So in all around conventional sense they are at a disadvantage but they adapted to the sanctions and have a solid ballistic missile arsenal and have adopted a irregular warfare strategy to cope with modern scenarios. Doesn't mean it will all work though, we haven't seen that yet.

How can you know the numbers of their up to date productions the data you have is a 30 years old data.

Iranian Defense production


The following list consists of some weapons systems that Iran manufactures domestically:

Aircraft and Helicopters
See also: Iran Aviation Industries Organization, Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial Company, and Panha
Unmanned aerial vehicles
  • Ababil - Domestically-manufactured naval surveillance plane. Ababil-5 is for medium-range reconnaissance and surveillance missions and the Ababil-T for short/medium-range attack missions.
  • Mohajer I/II/III/IV
  • Rad (with 'offensive' capabilities)
  • Nazir (surveillance)
  • Saeghe - Target drone
  • Sabokbal - First Iranian super light-weight drone, capable of recording and dispatching films and can be prepared for flight in less than five minutes.
  • Zohal - VTOL unmanned aerial vehicle
  • Talash 1,2 - Iranian training UAV.
  • Karrar - capable of carrying a military payload of rockets to carry out bombing missions against ground targets. It is also capable of flying long distances at a very high speed.
  • Sofreh Mahi - Stealth UCAV
  • A1 - A1 is capable of travelling for at least two hours, and can carry a 5-kilogram payload.
  • Shaparak (Butterfly) - has a maximum operational radius of 50 kilometers (31 miles), and a maximum flight ceiling of 15,000 feet (4,572 meters). This UAV is capable of three and half hours of non-stop flying, and can carry an 8-kilogram (17-pound) payload.
  • Shahed 129 - UCAV with 24 hour flight capability and armed with Sadid missiles.
  • Sayeh - Reverse-engineered copies of ScanEagle, made on a domestic production line and put into service by the Iranian armed forces.
  • Yasir - Modified version of ScanEagle, it has a 19,500 ft service ceiling, an endurance of 24 hours, and an operational radius of about 750 km.
  • H-110 Sarir - capable of carrying air-to-air missiles.
  • Hamaseh - A medium range drone, capable of carrying air to ground missiles.
  • AB-3
  • Raad 85 - Suicide drone.
  • Fotros - UCAV with range of 2000 km,flight ceiling of 25000 ft and 16–30 hours flight endurance, armed with missiles.
Aircraft upgrades and components
  • Iran claims to have upgraded its US-made F-4, F-5, and F-14 fighter jets, and produced spare parts including tires, avionics, and engine components.
  • Shahed (Observer) flight recorder - able to record flight, image, and sound parameters.
Simulators
  • F-4 Phantom Simulator
  • Toufan or AH-1J assault helicopter simulator
  • Shahed-278 and Bell-206 simulator - Under project Mansour Iran built 27 Bell-206 simulators in 2003.
  • Bell 214 simulator - it was built under project Qader-3 and it had cost Iran 17 billion and 500 million rials.
  • Submarine Simulator - Iran's "Tareq-class" submarine.
  • F-5 Tiger simulator
  • Misagh rocket launcher simulator
  • Mig-29 Fulcrum simulator
  • F-14 Tomcat simulator
Radar systems

Defense production
Matla-ul-fajr radar system
  • BSR-1 - VHF radar.
  • Matla-ul-fajr radar system
  • Kashef 1&2 radars
  • Alvand radar
  • Asr radar - Asr radar is described by Iranian officials as a S band naval three-dimensional phased array radar with a range of 200 km and capable of simultaneously identifying and intercepting 100 targets at water level or above, this radar will be installed on Jamaran frigates.
  • Alim radar system
  • RASIT ground-surveillance radar - Iran captured a number of Iraqi radars during the 1980-1988 war, and now manufactures a reverse-engineered version carried aboard a truck
  • Thamen - radar system
  • Electro-optical/radar system
  • E-warfare systems
  • Sepehr - OTH radar with a range of 3,000 kilometers in radius
  • Najm-802 - Phased array radar system
  • Ghadir - The Ghadir radar system which covers areas (maximum) 1,100 km in distance and 300 km in altitude has been designed and built to identify aerial targets, radar-evading aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles as well as low-altitude satellites.
  • Arash - long range radar, entered service in December 2013.
Missiles
Medium range (MRBM)


Ghadr-110 with a range of 2,000 km.
Medium range missiles are considered to have a range between 1000 and 3000 kilometers.

Short range (SRBM)
Short range missiles are considered to have a range up to 1000 kilometers.

  • Shahab-1 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 350 km. Copy of Soviet SS-1C/Scud-B
  • Shahab-2 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 750 km. Copy of Soviet SS-1D/Scud-C
  • Naze'at - Unguided rocket series.
  • Fateh-110 - single-stage solid-propellant SRBM with a range of 200 km
  • Zelzal 1/2/3/3B - Single-stage SRBM with a range of 200 to 400 km
  • Qiam 1 - Tactical SRBM with a range of 750 km. Uses liquid fuel and has a smart targeting system.
Cruise missiles
  • Nasr-1 - Iranian made short range missiles.
  • Meshkat - Iranian cruise missile with range of 2000 kilometers.(under development)
  • Qader - Iranian anti-ship cruise missile with a range over 200 km.
Anti-tank missiles
  • Raad - copy of Soviet AT-3 Sagger
  • RPG-7 - Copy of Soviet RPG-7. Iran is forecast to manufacture 2.88 percent of the worlds RPG-7's by 2014.
  • RPG-29
  • Saegheh - improved version of the RPG-7
  • Toophan - Copy of American TOW missile
  • Toophan 2 - Improved Toophan
  • Toophan 5 - Anti-armor, anti-tank missile with two warheads
  • Towsan - Iranian version of the 9M113 Konkurs/AT-5 Spandrel
  • Dehlaviyeh - Locally produced version of the Kornet-E
  • Tondar - Iranian made version of 9M119 Svir ATGM with max range of 4,000 meters.
Recoilless rifles
  • SPG-9 - reverse engineered version of 73mm SPG-9 recoilless rifle
  • 106mm Recoilless rifle - Iranian version of M40 A2 recoilless rifle
Air defence weapons


Raad air defense system
  • Qaem - anti-helicopter, light-weight, laser guided missile
  • Raad - anti-helicopter system.
  • Misagh-1 - copy of Chinese QW-1 Vanguard with upgrades
  • Misagh-2 - copy of Chinese QW-2 Vanguard
  • 23mm Anti-Aircraft Gun - Iranian version of ZU-23 which comes in one or two barrel configurations
  • Samavat 35mm Anti-Aircraft Guns - Copy of Oerlikon 35 mm twin cannon skyguard
  • Sa'ir 100mm Anti-Aircraft Guns - Upgraded automatic version of KS-19 100m gun, it can detect and intercept targets automatically through radar or optical systems at low and medium altitude
  • Shahab Thaqeb (شهاب ثاقب) - copy of the Chinese HQ-7 (FM-80)
  • SM-1 copy of RIM-66 Standard.
  • Sayyad-1 / Sayyad-1A - upgraded copy of Chinese HQ-2, Sayyad-1A has IR tracking.
  • Sayyad-2 (Hunter II). Upgraded version of the Sayyad-1 system with higher precision, range and defensive power. It is equipped with a 200-kilogram warhead and has a speed of 1,200 meters per second. The Sayyad-1 missile defense system is composed of two-stage missiles that can target all kinds of aircraft, including bombers, at medium and high altitudes.
  • Fajr-8 - upgrade of S-200
  • Fajr-27 - advanced sea rapid fire cannon
  • Fath (victory) - the 40-millimeter naval cannon's range is 12 km and shoots 300 projectiles per minute.
  • Mersad - Iran's first advanced air defense system based on the US MIM-23 Hawk. It is capable of hitting modern aircraft flying at low and medium altitudes. The Mersad system is equipped with sophisticated radar signal processing technology, an advanced launcher, and electronic equipment for guidance and target acquisition. Mersad uses domestically manufactured Shahin missiles.
  • Mesbah 1 air defense system - can target and destroy fighters, helicopters, cruise missiles and other objects flying at low altitude. Mesbah 1 is equipped with a three-dimensional interception radar and an optical guidance system. Mesbah 1 can fire four thousand rounds per minute.
  • Mehrab (altar) - surface-to-air medium-range smart missile. The Mehrab missile is equipped with anti-radar and anti-jamming systems, and if the enemy tries to jam the guidance system of the missile, it immediately identifies the source of the interference and changes its course toward the source and destroys the jammer.
  • Raad - Air defence system with range of 50 kilometers and engagement altitude of 25 to 27 kilometers
  • Bavar-373 (under development). Iran's corrected version of Russia's S-300 surface-to-air missile system, which uses two or three types of missiles to confront aerial targets in different layers
  • Ya Zahra - Low-altitude mobile air defense system.
  • Soheil - Quadruped- MANPADS missile launcher, which can detect and intercept aerial targets.
  • Herz-9 - Passive low-altitude mobile air defense system with operating range of 10 km and operating altitude of 5 km .
  • Talaash- A mid-range, high altitude missile mobile air defense missile system which uses an upgraded copy of SM-1 (RIM-66) missile called Sayyad-2, on November 2013 Iran launched the production line of Sayyad-2 missile.(The whole system is still under development)
  • Asefeh - Asefeh is three-barrelled 23 mm Gatling gun that is reportedly capable of firing up to 900 rounds a minute, it is currently under development by IRGC ground force and will be used as a close in weapon system to defend against cruise missiles.
Air-to-ground munitions


Zoobin electro-optically guided air to surface missile
  • Qadr - Electro-optically guided 2000 lb glide-bomb
  • Zoobin - Electro-optically guided 750 lb glide-bomb
  • Qassed I/II/III - Electro-optically guided 2000 lb bomb. Qassed-2 has a range about 50 km, Qassed-3 has a range of over 100 km
  • Asre - Laser-guided air-to-ground missile.
  • Kite - Stand-off sub-munitions dispenser.
  • Yasser - 750 lb air-to-ground missile.
  • Bina - Laser-guided air-to-ground and ground-to-ground missile according to Janes It appears to be an AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground missile with a semi-active laser (SAL) seeker fitted to its nose.
Air-to-air missiles
Naval missiles


Khalije-Fars anti ship ballistic missile
  • Ra'ad - Indigenously developed long-range anti-ship missile based on HY-2 Silkworm.
  • Fajre Darya- copy of Sea Killer II.
  • Kowsar 1/2/3 - Several versions based on Chinese C-701 TL-10 and C-704
  • Nasr - Several versions based on TL-6 and C-705
  • Tondar - upgraded copy of Chinese C-801. Similar to Noor but powered by solid rocket booster and range of 50 km.
  • Thaqeb - Similar to Noor, modified for submarine launch.
  • Noor - upgraded copy of Chinese C-802
  • Qader - Iranian anti-ship cruise missile with a range over 200 km.
  • Khalij Fars - Anti ship ballistic missile based on Fateh-110
  • Zafar - Indigenously developed short range anti ship missile.
  • Sadid-1 - Ultra light anti ship missile designed for naval version of Shahed 285
Torpedo
Armored Vehicles


Iranian made Zulfiqar tank
Other vehicles


Safir multipurpose vehicle
Mortars
Artillery
  • HM 40 - A 122mm howitzer
  • HM 41 - A 155mm howitzer
  • Wheeled 155-mm self-propelled howitzer
  • Raad 1 - SP gun Chinese Type WZ 501/503 armored infantry fighting vehicle with Russian 122mm gun mounted on top.
  • Raad 2 - SP gun based on the U.S. M109 howitzer
  • Basir - Laser guided 155 mm artillery shell capable of engaging moving targets at the range of 20 km.
Rocket Artillery
  • HM 20 - Iranian version of the BM-21
  • Arash - Iranian 122mm unguided artillery rocket
  • Oghab - Iranian 230mm unguided artillery rocket
  • Falaq-1 - Iranian 240mm unguided artillery rocket similar to BM-24
  • Falaq-2 - Iranian 333mm unguided artillery rocket
  • Fajr-1 - Iranian version of 107mm Type 63 MRS artillery rocket
  • Fajr-3 - artillery rocket
  • Fajr-5 - artillery rocket
  • Fajr 7 - artillery rocket with a range of over 64 km.
Small arms
  • MPT-9 - Tondar submachine gun - copy of MP5 (H & K licenced production)
  • KH-2002 - 5.56mm bullpup conversion kit for the M-16
  • S-5.56 - copy of Norinco CQ, Chinese clone of the M-16
  • KL-7.62 - copy of AKM
  • G3A6 - copy of G3 7.62 mm (H & K licenced production)
  • MGA3 - copy of MG3 7.62 mm (Rheinmetal licenced production)
  • PC-9 "Zoaf" - copy of Swiss-German SIG P226 pistol
  • PKM-T80 - copy of Soviet PKM
  • MGD-12.7mm - copy of Soviet DShkM
  • Nakhjir - copy of Soviet SVD
  • Sayyad - Iranian Steyr HS .50 clone with slightly different muzzle brake and curved pistol grip.
  • Shaher - Iranian developed caliber 14.5 sniper rifle.
  • Taktab - Iranian 20 mm sniper rifle under development.
  • Arash - Indigenous 20 mm sniper rifle.
Boats and destroyers


Jamaran frigate
Submarines
Midget Submarines

List of military equipment manufactured in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
قلتلك اوعك تشكر يهودي
No you're wrong , i never did that . it was new year's message , when someone asks for peace , even if they're liars you should welcome their initiative .

يارب نقطع الهماجية الاسريلية فل منطقة
You are wrong again . their is a subtle difference between judaisim and zionism . i may wish that zionists burn in hell because of their crimes , but not all jews !
Jew = / = zionist .

I noticed your palestinian flag , i wish your nation immediate liberation .
 
Their equipment up to date?
Their tanks and jets are not up to date, but same goes with Iran. Air defence of Syria is much more modern than Iran's however.

LOL Iranians aren't Arabs, Arabs do not know how to fight anymore. Honestly only Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey are Muslim countries that can fight the rest either cannot because they are too dependent on others (Arabs and CARS) or they are just suspect militarily (the rest).
Where from u got the idea that Arabs are fighting worse than other Muslims? History does not show that at all, quite on contrary.
 
What a revolutionary discovery. So tell us why is Israel all talk and no actions then?
There are 3 major reasons:

1) Unlike Syria and Iraq, Iran never attacked Israel directly. Only proxies. We are not in state of war with Iran.
2) Unlike Syria Israel does not border Iran, there are 2 big countries between us.
3) Unlike Syria and Iraq, Iran's nuclear program is based not on 1 reactor, but on thousands of centrifuges, which are dispersed in many locations and hidden underground bunkers.

These 3 factors make the difference, not the super duper F-5 and Hawks.
 
1) Unlike Syria and Iraq, Iran never attacked Israel directly. Only proxies. We are not in state of war with Iran.

Sudan also has not attacked you directly, but you have violated their air space and bombed targets in their country. Not a good reason.


2) Unlike Syria Israel does not border Iran, there are 2 big countries between us.

Yes, but what's with the constant talking without action? Don't they think they will embarrass themselves every time they talk about an invasion? Why not simply staying quiet?


3) Unlike Syria and Iraq, Iran's nuclear program is based not on 1 reactor, but on thousands of centrifuges, which are dispersed in many locations and hidden underground bunkers.

Still the same reason as above.

You forgot 3 main reasons:

1. Hundreds of ballistic missiles, even if one single of them hits any Israeli city/facility, it will be a disaster and and fiasco also. I bet much more than one of them will hit Israel's territory.
2.Hezbollah, no explanation needed.
3. Element of surprise. It's been years that Iran is upgrading/producing its own radar and air defense systems. Iran has already produced a more advanced version of Buk system and also upgraded S-200 numerous times, it can't even be called S-200 anymore. A more advanced version of Hawk, called Mersad has been mass produced and many other secret air defense projects are being developed. Iran is readying it self for such a strike and is producing almost all defense needs inside the country, that's not the case with Syria and comparing Iran and Syria with regards to number of tanks or Pantsir system for example is very naive. btw, we are not going to fight Israel with tanks and we don't have any imminent ground attack upon us to need tanks for it.
 
Sudan also has not attacked you directly, but you have violated their air space and bombed targets in their country. Not a good reason.
Sudan did attack us directly. They sent troops in 1948 and 1973 wars. We are oficially in state of war with Sudan.

Yes, but what's with the constant talking without action? Don't they think they will embarrass themselves every time they talk about an invasion? Why not simply staying quiet?

Still the same reason as above.
Talk does not harm, but it makes mullahs nervous and causes them spend huge resources to disperse centrifuges and dig underground bunkers.

You forgot 3 main reasons:

1. Hundreds of ballistic missiles, even if one single of them hits any Israeli city/facility, it will be a disaster and and fiasco also. I bet much more than one of them will hit Israel's territory.
Iran does not have hundreds ballistic missiles which can reach Israel. Syria has. Plus in 1991 Israel was ht by 40 Scud missiles. They caused almost no damage.

2.Hezbollah, no explanation needed.
Hezbollah will not do anything. They are not suicidal. Plus they are nothing but minor nuisance.

3. Element of surprise. It's been years that Iran is upgrading/producing its own radar and air defense systems. Iran has already produced a more advanced version of Buk system and also upgraded S-200 numerous times, it can't even be called S-200 anymore. A more advanced version of Hawk, called Mersad has been mass produced and many other secret air defense projects are being developed. Iran is readying it self for such a strike and is producing almost all defense needs inside the country, that's not the case with Syria and comparing Iran and Syria with regards to number of tanks or Pantsir system for example is very naive. btw, we are not going to fight Israel with tanks and we don't have any imminent ground attack upon us to need tanks for it.
Syria air defences are much more potent and modern than all repainted junk from 60-es.
 
Sudan did attack us directly. They sent troops in 1948 and 1973 wars. We are oficially in state of war with Sudan.

Iran also has sent advisers and troops to help Hz and Syria. Why not delare war on Iran? After all it has a crappy army much weaker than Syria, piece of cake for mighty IDF. Why not taking on your 'biggest enemy'?

Talk does not harm, but it makes mullahs nervous and causes them spend huge resources to disperse centrifuges and dig underground bunkers.
You may not believe me, but people of Iran are more concerned about rag tag terrorist attacks in our borders rather than an Israeli attack.let alone military commanders. :lol: We haven't dispersed our enrichment facilities, because we only have 2 and the only underground facility is in Fordow which is one of those enrichment facilities. I don't like exaggerations, don't use it.

Iran does not have hundreds ballistic missiles which can reach Israel. Syria has. Plus in 1991 Israel was ht by 40 Scud missiles. They caused almost no damage.

Yes it has, Iran has hundreds of ballistic missiles like Shahab, Sejjil or Ghadr that can reach Israel, with pinpoint accuracy. You can't even compare Syrian missile tech with Iran's.
Hezbollah will not do anything. They are not suicidal. Plus they are nothing but minor nuisance.
Of course they are. only a small nuisance, which happen to have thousands of missiles that can reach every single point in Israel and is a big concern for Israel's military elite.
Syria air defences are much more potent and modern than all repainted junk from 60-es.
repainted junk, of course they are. state of denial will get you nowhere. I don't like war, but I love to see your face in case a war happens.
 
If israel attacks Iran then the retaliation would really be tough. Rockets from Iran wouldn't necessarily effect israel that much unless they have a ton of them to fire all at the same time. Irans biggest tool against israel are various palestinian and lebanese groups that oppose israel. They could also get the palestinians to start mass protests which would destabilize israel. Iran could cut off the strait of hormuz from international shipping. This would cause the whole world to go into recession. Even if the Iranian navy gets wiped out they could still use other weapons to cut off the strait.

Israel also has alot of retaliatory measures to use against iran. (ballistic missiles, U.S Military, mossad can be used to stoke unrest in the country)
 
Iran also has sent advisers and troops to help Hz and Syria.
Advisers are not count as aggression. And even those never were admitted by Iran.

Why not delare war on Iran?
We did not start a single war in all our modern history and we dont want to change it.

After all it has a crappy army much weaker than Syria, piece of cake for mighty IDF.
I did not say anything like that.

You may not believe me, but people of Iran are more concerned about rag tag terrorist attacks in our borders rather than an Israeli attack.let alone military commanders. :lol: We haven't dispersed our enrichment facilities, because we only have 2 and the only underground facility is in Fordow which is one of those enrichment facilities. I don't like exaggerations, don't use it.
Natanz is also underground. And both Natanz and Fordow are not just one room, they are dispersed.

Yes it has, Iran has hundreds of ballistic missiles like Shahab, Sejjil or Ghadr that can reach Israel, with pinpoint accuracy. You can't even compare Syrian missile tech with Iran's.
You have hundreds of Shahab-1 and 2 which cant each Israel. Shahab-3 is much bigger and much much more expensive missile. Each Shahab-3 costs similar to your Safir space launcher (which is basically a Shahab-3 with additional stage).

So u dont have any hundreds but dozens.

Of course they are. only a small nuisance, which happen to have thousands of missiles that can reach every single point in Israel and is a big concern for Israel's military elite.
The overwhelming majority are just Grads - nuisance. They have several hundred M302/Fajr 5 which are very extremely inaccurate and also a nuisance.

Finally they have couple dozen Fateh 110. That's not nice, but Germans in WW2 launched over 10,000 similar V1 and V2 rockets. And they did not achieve virtually anything except angering population.

repainted junk, of course they are. state of denial will get you nowhere. I don't like war, but I love to see your face in case a war happens.
Modern air defence missiles are super hitec. Iran does not have such technologies. Syria has stronger air defenses.
 
I am gonna bet. Isreal aint attacking no one .. not this time !
 
Its time to put up or shut the **** up, this shit is getting really old....
 
Iran also has sent advisers and troops to help Hz and Syria. Why not delare war on Iran? After all it has a crappy army much weaker than Syria, piece of cake for mighty IDF. Why not taking on your 'biggest enemy'?


You may not believe me, but people of Iran are more concerned about rag tag terrorist attacks in our borders rather than an Israeli attack.let alone military commanders. :lol: We haven't dispersed our enrichment facilities, because we only have 2 and the only underground facility is in Fordow which is one of those enrichment facilities. I don't like exaggerations, don't use it.



Yes it has, Iran has hundreds of ballistic missiles like Shahab, Sejjil or Ghadr that can reach Israel, with pinpoint accuracy. You can't even compare Syrian missile tech with Iran's.

Of course they are. only a small nuisance, which happen to have thousands of missiles that can reach every single point in Israel and is a big concern for Israel's military elite.

repainted junk, of course they are. state of denial will get you nowhere. I don't like war, but I love to see your face in case a war happens.

No need to answer her/him (they disguise themselves most of the time), she was absent from PDF for 4 months after the Iranians unveiled the Qaher-313, she got that much sick.
 

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