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Islamic State release video showing beheading of 21 Egyptian Christians

This is what Washington feeds you and you believe it. Soviets too used to tell their people that the red army was building kintergardens and distributing teddy bears in Afghanistan.

Yeah sure and the ME was the land of milk & honey before we showed up. :lol:

I'm sure the soviets had their propaganda machine. But how is that different from your propaganda of zero collateral damage in your current operations?

The reality is, you've been killing each other before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth rock. Hell, the whole point of Columbus' journey was to find a new route to the East so they wouldn't have to deal with you people. We were just dumb enough to think the Arab spring was people's aspiration for freedom rather than what it actually was.

Libya is the newest location of the great civil war buddy. It's been low intensity for a while but that is about to change now. Who's next? I guess we will find out.

We don't know, bud. Why don't you ask the powers that be in Saudi Arabia and tell us where you'll be pushing your idealogy next?
 
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Yeah sure and the ME was the land of milk & honey before we showed up. :lol:

Perhaps not, however it surely wasn't the land of Al-qaeda, ISIS and suicide bombers BEFORE you showed up.

I'm sure the soviets had their propaganda machine.

Just like you are lead to believe that your ISAF is not an occupation force.

But how is that different from your propaganda of zero collateral damage in your current operations?

First off, we are there because of the mess you have created. You didn't let the Afghan rebels form a govt once they defeated USSR despite the fact that your founding fathers were also rebels. That is what made them Taiban from Mujahideen.

As for the collateral damage, we don't conduct operations in populated areas. We depopulate them first through mass migration, then military operation takes place and people are resetteled in their homes after we rebuild their towns and villages. That's Pakistani way of fighting insurgency.

Yes there are no reports of collateral damage but there are no complaints or protests either. That's because we evecuated all of our civilians BEFORE the first round was fired.

The reality is, you've been killing each other before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth rock. Hell, the whole point of Columbus' journey was to find a new route to the East so they wouldn't have to deal with you people. We were just dumb enough to think the Arab spring was people's aspiration for freedom rather than what it actually was.

Columbus was dumb and so are you. We have lived in harmony with Jews and Christians for over a 1000 years. Muslims killing Muslims is your media hype. You think we would be 1.8 billion if we kept killing each other?

Europeans are the ones who killed 44 million of themselves in just a 100 years, not us.

Your only fault is that you are trying to hegemonise the 'wrong people'. We are not African slaves, American, Canadian Indians or Australian aboriginals. We are Muslims, we only bow to the God himself, not to any other man, and we have defeated the red army and your two field armies in Afghanistan and Iraq, simply through the strength our culture for the defense of our land and people. If you don't learn your lessons, soon enough Washington would be bankrupt and we would be buying your state assets.
 
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Perhaps not, however it surely wasn't the land of Al-qaeda, ISIS and suicide bombers BEFORE you showed up.

Really? What was USS Cole and 9/11? Just an accident? Maybe they didn't see the massive ship or the colossal building in front of them? Maybe the sun was in their eyes? Or was it religious fervor that blinded them?

Just like you are lead to believe that your ISAF is not an occupation force.

We have no illusions of what we're doing in Afghanistan. They were protecting the guy we wanted and we're there to kick the everloving shyte out of the a-holes who oppose us.

First off, we are there because of the mess you have created. You didn't let the Afghan rebels form a govt once they defeated USSR despite the fact that your founding fathers were also rebels. That is what made them Taiban from Mujahideen.

Wow! Where do you get your information from?
It wasn't the US that prevented the rebels from forming their government, it was PAKISTAN that did that. It was Pakistan's proxy Hekmetyar who refused to join in the power sharing and bombed Kabul. It was Pakistan that raised the Taliban to start the Afghan war anew. There's a reason why the entire world including the UN recognized that govt as the legitimate govt of Afghanistan and only Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE recognized the Taliban govt.


As for the collateral damage, we don't conduct operations in populated areas. We depopulate them first through mass migration, then military operation takes place and people are resetteled in their homes after we rebuild their towns and villages. That's Pakistani way of fighting insurgency.

Yes there are no reports of collateral damage but there are no complaints or protests either. That's because we evecuated all of our civilians BEFORE the first round was fired.

If you already know which house belongs to a civilian and which one belongs to the terrorist, why don't you just attack the homes of the terrorists? What's the point of evacuating the entire town and then bombing it? And are you sure when you evacuate these towns, the terrorists aren't just walking out along with your civilians? Oh by the way, there's no way of knowing who's getting killed since there is no independent corroboration anyway. So for all we know most of the dead might be civilians.

Columbus was dumb and so are you. We have lived in harmony with Jews and Christians for over a 1000 years. Muslims killing Muslims is your media hype. You think we would be 1.8 billion if we kept killing each other?

Yeah, the four minarets around Hagia Sophia and Timurlane stand as testaments to your tolerance. A large population is not a sign of anything other than lack of family planning and foresight.

Your only fault is that you are trying to hegemonise the 'wrong people'. We are not African slaves, American, Canadian Indians or Australian aboriginals. We are Muslims, we only bow to the God himself, not to any other man, and we have defeated the red army and your two field armies in Afghanistan and Iraq, simply through the strength our culture for the defense of our land and people. If you don't learn your lessons, soon enough Washington would be bankrupt and we would be buying your state assets.

That delusional rant deserves its own chapter in the journal of psychological studies. Here's the reality. Your religion has the largest proportion of people enslaved and ruled by tyrants. You bow to every tyrant that shows up and have for hundreds of years. You didn't defeat the soviets WE financed the operation, YOU provided the cannon fodder till they started having economic problems at home and withdrew. You didn't defeat us in Afghanistan, we kicked the shyte out of your Taliban govt and sent them packing. You didn't defeat us in Iraq, we knocked off Saddam on a whim. We came into your country and killed your hero and tossed his body into the ocean. We fly our drones in your country whenever it pleases us. We enforce no-fly zones whenever we feel like it. We sanction countries on a whim. In both Afghanistan and Iraq, killing your own people to spite us is not exactly considered winning anywhere in this world except maybe in your mind.

And you're gonna buy us out?? Seriously? The 300 million of us have more money and more assets than your entire 1.8 billion population. You depend on us for aid through the world bank and IMF just to keep your head above water and you're dreaming of buying our assets. If you had anywhere close to that ability you wouldn't be lining up outside our consulates throughout the world to try to move here.

Finally, you know those people you're describing, the ones who bow to no one and buy and sell nations at their whim, that's us you're describing, not you. Make no mistake about it, this is our world, you just live in it.

@waz @Jungibaaz - any forum rule violations in this post?
 
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Really? What was USS Cole and 9/11? Just an accident? Maybe they didn't see the massive ship or the colossal building in front of them? Maybe the sun was in their eyes? Or was it religious fervor that blinded them?



We have no illusions of what we're doing in Afghanistan. They were protecting the guy we wanted and we're there to kick the everloving shyte out of the a-holes who oppose us.



Wow! Where do you get your information from?
It wasn't the US that prevented the rebels from forming their government, it was PAKISTAN that did that. It was Pakistan's proxy Hekmetyar who refused to join in the power sharing and bombed Kabul. It was Pakistan that raised the Taliban to start the Afghan war anew. There's a reason why the entire world including the UN recognized that govt as the legitimate govt of Afghanistan and only Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE recognized the Taliban govt.




If you already know which house belongs to a civilian and which one belongs to the terrorist, why don't you just attack the homes of the terrorists? What's the point of evacuating the entire town and then bombing it? And are you sure when you evacuate these towns, the terrorists aren't just walking out along with your civilians? Oh by the way, there's no way of knowing who's getting killed since there is no independent corroboration anyway. So for all we know most of the dead might be civilians.



Yeah, the four minarets around Hagia Sophia and Timurlane stand as testaments to your tolerance. A large population is not a sign of anything other than lack of family planning and foresight.



That delusional rant deserves its own chapter in the journal of psychological studies. Here's the reality. Your religion has the largest proportion of people enslaved and ruled by tyrants. You bow to every tyrant that shows up and have for hundreds of years. You didn't defeat the soviets WE financed the operation, YOU provided the cannon fodder till they started having economic problems at home and withdrew. You didn't defeat us in Afghanistan, we kicked the shyte out of your Taliban govt and sent them packing. You didn't defeat us in Iraq, we knocked off Saddam on a whim. We came into your country and killed your hero and tossed his body into the ocean. We fly our drones in your country whenever it pleases us. We enforce no-fly zones whenever we feel like it. We sanction countries on a whim. In both Afghanistan and Iraq, killing your own people to spite us is not exactly considered winning anywhere in this world except maybe in your mind.

And you're gonna buy us out?? Seriously? The 300 million of us have more money and more assets than your entire 1.8 billion population. You depend on us for aid through the world bank and IMF just to keep your head above water and you're dreaming of buying our assets. If you had anywhere close to that ability you wouldn't be lining outside our consulates through the world to try to move here.

Finally, you know those people you describe who bow to no one and buy and sell nations at their whim, that's us you're describing, not you. Make no mistake about it, this is our world, you just live in it.

@waz @Jungibaaz - any forum rule violations in this post?
We did involve Pakistan in the first Afghan mess. We should shoulder some of the blame.
 
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RIP .

Daesh scum's logic : because western countries have bombed us , we will behead 21 najis egyptian christian filth for revenge .
 
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Just read that ISIS conquered with Sirte, Gadaffi's hometown, it's third town in Libya.
More & more i start think that it would have been maybe better if he stayed in power.
And the same goes to Syria. I doubt that after Assad comes something better.
Wonder why the Arab Spring only worked in Tunisia. The Islamists there seem to be more moderate than most others.

Problem is those dictators that your countries removed were evil, we can agree with that. But they kept extremists in check. When you suddenly invade a country and destroy their government, army, police. Everything collapses. It creates vacuum. And that vacuum is usually filled by extremists.
 
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Problem is those dictators that your countries removed were evil, we can agree with that. But they kept extremists in check. When you suddenly invade a country and destroy their government, army, police. Everything collapses. It creates vacuum. And that vacuum is usually filled by extremists.


Not really,this is apologism,the people of those countries bare responsibility.All of Eastern Europe had their dictators removed in 1989,police,Army,Secret Service chiefs and the echelons behind them removed and we didn't start to butcher each other.Sry man but the real problem lies with the natives on this one.
 
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Not really,this is apologism,the people of those countries bare responsibility.All of Eastern Europe had their dictators removed in 1989,police,Army,Secret Service chiefs and the echelons behind them removed and we didn't start to butcher each other.Sry man but the real problem lies with the natives on this one.

You misunderstood my comment. I was trying to tell him that you don't just violently invade a country, introduce your brand of democracy and leave a power vacuum. Obviously Muslim countries aren't that developed in terms of education and social freedoms. Which means that vacuum is filled by extremist groups. In eastern Europe as you pointed out correctly that you guys didn't go around butchering people, that is because you didn't have religious Orthodox leaders using religion for their political gains. But the pwoer vacuum did exist and it was filled by corrupt politicians. For example in Romania and specially in Bulgaria.

Muslim world must free itself from self claimed experts of Islam and more importantly the funders of extremist ideologies.
 
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No, he just used to gas the Kurds. They have some pretty interesting stories. But I'm sure they're blowing it out of proportion. Other than that, terrific guy, great sense of humor, always the life of the party. :enjoy:


That was pretty brutal what he did but let's remember this was after the Iraq war and the Kurds were rising up in armed rebellion which he wanted to suppress (not agreeing on his methods) but yes I do agree with you the guy has charisma :enjoy:
 
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As per some reports maybe one of the persons who participated in the beheading of the Egyptians might be a female. It is in Arabic.

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-an...شاركت-فتاة-داعشية-بذبح-الرهائن-المصريين؟.html

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The first person in the above photo is the one in question



Also they are saying that one of the persons used his left hand for beheading instead of the right hand, also he was wearing a watch in his left hand instead of the right hand both of which contradicts what they are supposedly asked to follow.
 
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By doing this..they are making more enemies then friends...
 
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